If they can make some precum come out, that's awesome!

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I think porn is mostly about "Whackability"--we're not shooting a "Gone With the Wind" thingy! The intend should be to sexually excite the viewer (and NOT just the males, but also the women--AND the couples, who might start off having sex, but end up "making love"!!!

Never lose sight of "Whackability" as necessary to every video.

That's my old guy advice;-))

Dave
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So to your original list, Cumwhipper, I'd add a few things: (1) Slow and teasing, (2) Use of the tounge, (3) Play with balls as well as head, and (4) Passionate women who honestly enjoy a BJ. I guess another thing to be added is that the woman should be beautiful...but of course beauty is in the eye of the beholder. :)

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I also remember a scene in Blowjob Fantasies #11 - Maya Devine does a great scene with almost all of the requirements in our growing list. To top it all off, she winks at the camera while she's got the lucky parolee's cock deep in her mouth. Was enough to make me buy the movie! (there are 2 or 3 other pretty good scenes in it as well, but this one really stands out).

Edited by - Cumwhipper on 3/17/2004 8:04:57 AM

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What really impresses me about Xana's cocksucking is that although I think she's playing for the camera to a certain degree, it's also VERY apparent that she's there primarily to pleasure her husband Dax. You can tell by the way she touches him, and keeps "checking in" with him with glances and looks. Of course, his delight is obvious to. There are many times when I could tell that her cock sucking is making him completely forget that my wife and I were sliding around them, searching for the best angles.

The thing I like about shooting cocksucking is it's the one thing that doesn't have to be cheated for the camera. Cocksucking is a naturally cinematic sex act. You don't have to do any weird contrortions of bodies or camera angles to capture every detail.

-T.C.

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It should also be apparent that the guy is squirming with pleasure, not just clocking in.

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Here's a live link to the aforementioned thread on slow and sensuous blowjobs.

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Some excellent points made by cumwhipper and creamlover. I didn't even realize how many things i was looking for in a bj scene till i saw them listed above.

On top of the above I want to stress on two things that really makes a BJ scene take offff.

DEEPTHROAT.
SWALLOW.

Gia paloma's scene in GSOI 2 really displays the above.

/*CoLLeCToR*/

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It's obvious that you care a lot about this and are very specific about what you like and like to see.

I respect your personal taste.

However, I love seeing blowjobs as much as you but I'm coming from a whole 'nother place, as far as what turns me on in a porn blowjob.

First things first, I'm not a big POV fan. I think they are fine as part of the total package, but long, POV only blowjob scenes will bore me. Having said that, WITH THE EXCEPTION of POV angles, I HATE WHEN GIRLS LOOK INTO THE CAMERA DURING BLOW JOBS! And even during POV, I don't want the girl looking into the camera the whole time.

Most guys love blow jobs. Most girls give them because they know that guys love them. But the real turn-on, for me anyway, is when the girl is giving a no-holds barred, enthusiastic blow job, because SHE loves it. Or at least gives that illusion. In sex, one of the manifestations of completely losing yourself to the pleasure, especially with girls, is when their eyes close and when they make unforced, or unscripted noise. I love that. I love it when the girl's eyes roll back into her head and her eyes close and you have the sense that she is completely given over to the rapture. Whether it is acting or real, this is the image that turns me on. I can't get that when the girl is looking into the camera the whole time.

When I see too much looking into the camera, especially when not in POV, that gives me the sense that the girl is listening to direction, and playing to the camera too much for an audience purpose, rather than completely focusing on her partner or really feeling the moment.

A lot of times, especially in standing POV close-up, you will see a girl really starting to feel it and her eyes are rooling back in her head, or she is closing them, and the guy getting the head is barking at her, "look at me, open your eyes", which snaps her out of her reverie and brings her back from an enjoying participant who's really felling it, to a performer taking direction.

One of the other reasons that I'm not crazy over POV, is that I don't like extended or endless close-up in my porn.

I want to see the woman's whole body. Even if it's a blow job. ESPECIALLY if it's a blow job.

One of the psychological aspects of porn that is an attraction for many males is the images of beautiful women doing what you want. The male standing\female kneeling before him blow job position is probably the most visually stimulating for most guys, for the worship\submission imagery it projects. Being able to see the woman's entire body as she's on her hands and knees, or if she is back on her haunches with her knees under her, as she worships at the male member is a HUGE turn-on that you don't always get with POV. It also allows for the visual of the male placing his hands on or around her head, which turns most guys on and feeds into the domination\submission fantasy.

Finally, I'm not a big "hands-on" blow job enthusiast. I don't like when a girl spends entirely too much time stroking and jacking when she should be sucking. Or stroking while she is just barely sucking.

I suppose you could separate blow jobs into two categories, a) something that she's giving, with all the obligatory handling, licking, stroking, kissing, jacking, etc..., and b.) something that she's receiving, i.e., face-fucking. A great blowjob for me, will have elements of both, but by far the ruining of it will be too much hand work by the girl. This used to really bother me a lot with some of the bigger female stars of porn who seemed to give the attitude that their presence was the big thing, and they didn't have to do the down and dirty things that a lot of us porn afficiandos were looking for.

Cumshots...

Never mind, that's a whole different discussion.

BSD

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Surprisingly, I liked a lot of Rodney Moore's old blow job scenes.

They contained plenty of POV action, (eyes open and closed, smile!), plus there was plenty of camera on the tripod or separate cameraperson, full body from the side or behind action.

In the same blow job you would get plenty of dick love action from the girl, and plenty of good ol' skull fucking from him.

Finally, for the most part he kept the girl's hands off his dick.

And of course, the great finishes.

Works for me.

The only thing I could probably live without is all the excess saliva and saliva play. I don't know where that all came from, but it's really gotten out of hand.

And the guys spitting on girls or in their mouths. WHAT IS THAT! Is anybody turned on by this?

Sorry, another topic.

BSD

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With that in mind, a "real" indication of a woman's enjoyment during a BJ would be lots of eye contact (she derives pleasure from watching the man), and the "real" indicators of pleasure during vaginal sex would be gasping and rolling eyes, etc.

There may be exeptions to this. For example, I understand the actress Chloe claims to have anal orgasms...but whether or not that is faked, I absolutely love seeing that expression of uncontrollable ecstasy when she cums. I guess what it comes down to is that I can't tell whther that is faked because she is so good; but I already know a BJ can't produce orgasms, so I don't believe it no matter how convincingly it is done.

All just MO. :)

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I understand your point.

And I certainly don't think that women are "orgasming" while giving blow jobs.

But you can tell with the best cocksuckers how much they personally and physically are enjoying the act for themselves, as much as for the pleasure it gives their partner.

Have you seen the way Julie Night sucks a dick? Or Ashley Blue? Gia Paloma? Alexandria Quinn? These girls, hungrily, GREEDILY go after cock. And completely lose themselves in the act. It is almost breathtaking to watch the ardor with which they, and the other really passionate cocksuckers get to a whole 'nother place when they are sucking dick. They're almost inhaling dick, to the point where the guy is almost reduced to just a life support system for this glorious cock that they HAVE TO HAVE. And the girls hyperventilate and get glassy-eyed and they make noises they can't recreate and they completely lose it. I remember the 70's and 80's porn star with the bad snake tattoo named Viper. She was another one. When she sucked a dick it was almost an out of body experience for her. And me too. Her eyes would roll back in her head and her tongue would loll and the guy would about pass out from the force of her efforts.

These people aren't playing to the camera, nor are they looking at it all that much. They are almost completely invested in what they're doing, and that turns me on.

No, these girls may not be orgasming from giving head, but judging from their enthusiasm and responses, I gotta believe that they are getting much more out of this than just the joy of pleasuring their partner.

And if this is all acting, then give me more of that.

BSD

Edited by - BSD on 3/17/2004 7:20:43 PM

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The rest is just personal preference - but hey, it's a big tent (LOL) - plenty of room for everyone's personal likes and dislikes.

Thanks for adding to the discussion!

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Touche'.

Plenty to go around and room for everyone.

Thanks.

BSD

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