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GERONIMO3000
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3/05
Posted - Nov 18 2011 : 11:56AM
I always wonder why some amazing stars (e.g. Jada Stevens) aren't as widely known or as popular as other amazing super-stars (e.g. Kelly Divine)? What is that makes a Porn Star stand out from the bunch, and become a real fan/industry favorite? Is there one particular factor that separates the greats from the others?
1. Facial Beauty?
2. Special Physical Attributes (e.g. big tits, big booty)?
3. Performance Intensity?
4. Extreme Performances (e.g. DP, DAP etc)?
5. Personality/Charisma (on-screen, off/screen)?
6. Fan Interaction (via Website, twitter, forums etc)?
7. Self Promotion (via Website, twitter, forums etc)?
8. All of the above
ninja1
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Posted - Nov 18 2011 : 12:16PM
In this order:
2. Special Physical Attributes
3. Performance Intensity
6. Fan Interaction
Fan interaction takes 2 forms
fans communicating amongst themselves (more important)
pornstar communicating with fans (less important)
Hardware All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Nov 18 2011 : 12:22PM
Obviously, a performer has to be versatile enough to reach a bunch of niche markets. For example, if you don't do anal then you've probably made a substantial cut in your fan base. Aside from that, I think it is 30% looks and 70% personality, or on-screen persona, to be more precise.
Janitor
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Posted - Nov 18 2011 : 12:48PM
^ at least 20% is reliability/professionalism (showing up on time for shoots and in shape to shoot.)
Peoples Temple
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Posted - Nov 18 2011 : 1:12PM
I don't think beauty has anything to do with it. If you look at most female stars, they are fairly attractive unless they are performing some niche that is not all that common.
Charisma on-screen is what I remember most and stands out. When the girls are real and not faking it you can tell. It isn't about intensity, it is about being real.
Sunny Lane is one such girl that separates herself from the rest.
 
geralt
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495 Posts
7/11
Posted - Nov 18 2011 : 1:18PM
All of the above :)
To me the girl's personality is very important and the voice matters also, I love european girls with broken english (who can speak almost fluent english (not just able to say "Yes" "Fuck my ass"
Performance and sexual aggresivness matters also :)
ninja1
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Posted - Nov 18 2011 : 1:37PM
I think looks is more important than 30%. You don't perceive "personality" from browsing boxcovers or netsurfing for porn, on which I think most (uninitiated) viewer decisions are based. You learn about personality only after you've committed to watch a performer in action. If her looks don't grab your interest, you'll never watch her in the first place, and you'll never get to know her personality.
2bollocks
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Posted - Nov 18 2011 : 1:42PM
#1 is the most important for me.
Hardware All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Nov 18 2011 : 1:47PM
While I agree that professionalism is important to succeeding in any business, I don't know that it makes a performer stand out from a fan's perspective. I guess you can argue that your post goes towards the performer getting in front of enough fans to build up her base, though.
Oh, and ninja1, I give looks 30% because there is no particular look that will guarantee success. So, sure, you have to look good to enough people, but all the gals don't have to look good to the same people.
Edited by - hardware on 11/18/2011 1:49:32 PM
pat362
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Posted - Nov 18 2011 : 2:34PM
I don't agree with most of the points brought on by the original Poster because very few of those points apply to me. Facial beauty and physical attributes could be important but since I've liked so many different performers over the years then it would be hard to pick one particular attibutre that did it for me. I normlly pick the whole package rather than certin aspects. The only attibute that is important is that I much prefer that performers be all natural. I do like some that have gone under the knife but they are the exceptions.
The performance is important but I much prefer it when the girl seems to be enjoying what she's doing. I love anal and dp's but if the performer isn't into that and it shows than the scene is going to be unwatchable. I not a fan of circus act porn so DAP,s DVP's and whatever else passes for very extreme porn is simply not my cup of tea and I never care if a performer does it or that she appears to like it.
I think personality is important but if someone can point to me where I can see the real person in a porn scene than please let me know. Otherwise all I see is a girl having porn sex. I love little scenario porn so again the personality that I see in those video is actully a part the performer is playing. The only place where I interact with any porn performer is on this board so this may not be the best place to judge the true personality of anybody.
I may from time to time read a performer's twitter post but that's about it. I really don't care about their personal life anymore than they care about mine.
I think Hardware and Janitor post are closer to how I see things. If a performer wants to have a long career in porn than reliability and professionalism are a must because a bad name in porn guarantees that we will never see more than a couple of shoots from that girl. I put looks at 25%, onscreen persona at 40%, openess at trying new things at 15% and reliability at 20%.
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Posted - Nov 18 2011 : 2:52PM
And if the boxcover girl doesn't show up the one that does gets the cover.
Steve Smith
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Posted - Nov 18 2011 : 4:37PM
1)They have to have a great face to stand out from everyone else.
2)They need to come across on screen as having real sex. It cannot be obviously faked.
3)An outstanding body shape is always a good thing.
4)A good personality at interviews. She should appear to be enjoying being in the adult movie business.
dirty_flea
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3/03
Posted - Nov 18 2011 : 4:48PM
be like francesca Le, Tiffany Mynx, Shyla Stylez, have intensity as part of their repertoire.
tankdog
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63 Posts
11/11
Posted - Nov 18 2011 : 5:12PM
I think it's like the movie industry. Until the pornstar is in a blockbuster of a porno, most people won't know who she is. The sucky thing about porno DVDs is a girl could be a 10/10 on the DVD but if the other girls on the dvd suck, the disc gets burried with a lower review/rating and gets less word of mouth. So it's really about getting on a great series.
For example, I think just getting in the barely legal series is a huge plus for new starlets. Or getting in one of those feature pornos.
tankdog
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63 Posts
11/11
Posted - Nov 18 2011 : 5:16PM
3 big ways a new porn star could stand out, for any that are reading the forum...
1. make sure all your scenes are different
Stop doing all nude scenes in everything you do, wear different things in each scene. Even if it's just socks in one scene, or boots in another, or a skirt, make sure there is color variety between your stuff. Also say different stuff in different scenes adds variety and keeps each new scene fresh and in demand.
2. do anal
If you look like 5 other porn stars but you do anal, you'll get more attention than the ones that don't and you'll get in more DVDs [the anal/butt DVD series ones].
3. fuck the guys back
The biggest problem with most porn stars is they just lay there and get fucked. Very few are like Sandra Romain, Paolo Rey or Naomi who will roll there hips hardcore into the guy to the point it looks like the girl is fucking the guy more than he is fucking her.
Edited by - tankdog on 11/18/2011 5:19:08 PM
 
tankdog
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63 Posts
11/11
Posted - Nov 18 2011 : 5:27PM
I disagree that beauty isn't a factor. Some of these pornstars are actually more beautiful than Hollywood actresses in my opinion. I mean they are stunning that it's surprising and hard to believe they even do porn.
But what I do agree on is charisma. I just actually thought of something. When I see a hot new pornstar with low charisma I tend to not write her name down because my instant thought is she's probably some one off girl. Maybe they found her in some foreign country or she's just trying out porn for a few bucks. I don't think much of her.
But when I see a pornstar like Sunny Lane for the first time, I think...damn..this girl loves to have sex. She's probably in tons of pornos, I need to look her up. So I think charisma kind of sells them as being in it for the long run and worth following. Just a thought.
Edited by - tankdog on 11/18/2011 5:29:36 PM
RandomPrecision
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Posted - Nov 18 2011 : 9:56PM
I could go crazy with a big list (as if I never have) but to break it down to two simple requisites, it would be -
1. Pretty face. This one's hard to quantify because it's so subjective and I sometimes have unusual taste.
2. All natural body (boobs, butt, face, no tats)
Sometimes I'll deal with small or "cute" tattoos if the girl is really cute and is otherwise natural but as soon as I see big, loud tattoos, I just can't go there.
There have been many who briefly caught my eye and then disappeared or just kept a low profile. The following exemplify the type of girl who catches my attention almost as soon as I see her...
Allie Haze
Mina Leigh
Lexi Bloom
Aubry Adams (in her original form)
Chastity Lynn
Christina Agave
Haley Scott
Natalie Norton
Sammy Grand
Sunny Lane
Dana DeArmond
Zoe Voss
Luscious Lopez
Ivy Winters
Lily LeBeau
Anita Blue (before the implants)
Brooke Van Buuren
Chelsie Rae (As if no one saw that one coming)
Katie Michaels. This one, you just have to see her better scenes
(Some of them probably have changed their names or left porn altogether. I assume most reading know the business well enough to know who they were)
Edited by - randomprecision on 11/18/2011 10:10:13 PM
Draxxx
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Posted - Nov 19 2011 : 2:10PM
There really isn't a oe size fits all answer for this since what everyone likes or looks for in a pornstar is different. But I think there are some factors that will get a pornstar noticed. In no particular order...
1 Looks. She has to have a look you like or chances are you'll never check out what she can do. She could have a pretty face, a nice body or sexy body parts. For me looks aren't always enough at times and other times it's all about looks. There are many goodlooking contract girls who do nothing for me like Stormy Daniels for example but yet I love watching Tera Patrick. They're both about equal beauty but I have no desire to watch Stormy and yet can't get enough of Tera. Tera is merely an okay performer but her looks are enough to make up for it in my eyes.
2 Sex Appeal. The sex appeal is something you sometimes can't detect until you watch the girl perform or in front of the camera. Sex Appeal is sometimes more important than looks. Sometimes sex appeal includes looks. Sometimes the girl's sex appeal is obvious, sometimes you can't even put it into words. Sometimes sex appeal can make up for weaker performances. For me the major of girls I like to watch the most fall under "sex appeal". There are women I can't get enough of even though they aren't the best looking or best performers.
3 Performance. There are some girls who demand your attention through their performances. But honestly, without the "looks" and "sex appeal" to back up a performance that girl won't appeal to as many fans or be a very popular pornstar. There are people who are all about the performance but for most people the great performance doesn't mean much from a girl you don't think is hot or turns you on with her sex appeal in some way.
4 Personality. Personality only works if it's backed by one or more of the things I mention above. It's a plus but I'm pretty sure not many people fans of a pornstar soley based on personality. Besides, the only way to get a real idea of a pornstar's personality is to watch certain types of BTS footage or meet them in person. Even then, it might not be their true personality but rather the one they try and project for the camera and/or fans. I think personality can be an enhancement but not enough to make a person who isn't into the girl otherwise watch her repeatedly.
monkey power
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Posted - Nov 19 2011 : 3:00PM
Not doing anal, because that's when all the anal folks notice you and ask "When are you gonna do anal?"
In other words, if you do do anal you don't stand out. It's only by not doing anal that you stand out.
So, In closing, I'd like to just mention anal one more time. Anal.
jfarley
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242 Posts
5/09
Posted - Nov 19 2011 : 7:25PM
When I started as a teen jerking off to dirty mags 3 decades ago, it was purely about looks.
That has gradually drifted to performance. Nowadays I get off to most women if the performance is good, looks are just a bonus.
Apparently many people drift towards extreme acts out of boredom for their performance. For me a good performance is simply a genuine passion and enjoyment of plain sex.
Horniness makes a porn star stand out from the bunch.
RandomPrecision
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Posted - Nov 19 2011 : 8:52PM
I agree with this too but there are a lot of fakers (not mentioning names). OTT screaching and screaming and flopping around usually means they're trying too hard to look like they're having a good time. There are some naturals who just forget the camera is there and truly enjoy themselves. Their performances are usually more subdued but much more satisfying when they do get turned on.
But I still think looks take precedence. I look for a face and body that turn me on first and then I hope I like her performances.
aclayfan All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Nov 19 2011 : 9:06PM
An interesting discussion -I think you can be popular and not be beautiful, but can't think of a superstar who isn't. I define superstar as being in the Jenna Jameson, Sasha Grey, and Tori Black league. Beyond looks, I'll go with performance intensity as the key. Janine was super popular for years and never even did guys until she was near the end. Agree that if you avoid certain niches ( especially anal and dp ), a significant number of porn fans are going to dismiss you. Just reading the forum tells you that. But, for me and many others it isn't a deal breaker.
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Nov 20 2011 : 1:43AM
I never felt that Sunny was particularly 'real.' There was always the overt sense of a performance going on, but I agree she was a great performer.
Kaotac
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86 Posts
5/09
Posted - Nov 20 2011 : 2:53AM
All the girls I've found that have stood out to me I've found from Kink.com..
Mallory Knotts, Chanta Rose, Amber Rayne, Amai Liu, Dana DeArmond, Mika Tan, Madison Young, Isis Love, Justine Joli, Princess Donna. The only person I'm a big fan of that hasn't been to Kink is Kitty. So, the company they work with seems to be important with me.
Beyond that, having a sense of humour about their work and interacting online with fans is important to get me really into them and make them more than a pretty face and boobs.
angryassdrummer
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559 Posts
3/11
Posted - Nov 20 2011 : 5:16AM
order for me
(generally, not always)
1. tits- bigger the better, perkier the better
2. hair colour
3.if they do anal
4.face
5.what they wear...some stars dress sexy every scenes, some i only ever see naked (boring)
6.how they perform..if they seem more into it or going through the motions
sometimes no 1. doesnt matter if i really like the star ie sasha grey, but as a general rule thats my order
 
Dragon Sign
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Posted - Dec 25 2016 : 3:32PM
Showing off a certain level of true joy and passion in the performances.



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