Do you want to see more girls on one guy or more guys on one girl? Do you want to see mulitple loads of cum swapped and swallowed, or is just one your thing? Do you want to see ALL anal in every scene? Is the pussy becoming defunct? Is a boy/girl scene a thing of the past? What's your favorite fetish? What would make you race out to buy a video? What really gets you off? Maybe this has been up for discussion before. Forgive me if I missed it.
Although there are sex acts I like to see, about the only time I pick up a movie because of a specific sex act is for creampie movies. Most of the time I don't really care what sex acts are included in a movie. The big thing is...
Chemistry!!! There's been plenty of things in movies I've watched that I wasn't sure I'd enjoy going into the movie and was able to get into because it was obvious the performers were enjoying it. If I get the feeling that the people I'm watching are into what they're doing, odds are I'll get into what they're doing as well. Just look at how many people were completely scared of watching rougher sex until they saw a Mason movie. A good mix of camera angles also helps where you get to see both the performers faces as well as the penetration, and including things like position changes normally shows a bit of a performers enthusiasm for the scene and getting on with it.
As for where the cum goes, if it's not an internal or swallowed pop, I go for the Stagliano line of thought. The pop should be directed towards the girl's best feature. If she's got a great rack it goes on the tits. If it's a great butt it goes on the butt. If it's a pretty face, it goes on the face. That way the last thing of the scene that you're directed to is the performer's best feature. This also lets things be mixed up a little so the movie doesn't fall into the rut of sameness.
"Vegetarianism for me is about saying ‘yes’ to things - even meat." - Coupling
I buy all blowjob and handjob movies. It doesnt matter to me if the scenes are one on one, or two on one, or an oral gangbang. I would rather watch facials than swallowing. Actually I dont mind the swallowing, its just that I hate when the girls sit there with their mouths open and gargle with it.
I agree with astronknight. It is the passion/chemistry between the performers that gets me off. In addition, the directors that pay attention to the buildup to the sex will always get my money. That is why certain directors have an established following, ie Jules Jordan. There's nothing worse than a scene where the director throws a blanket down in somebody's backyard with the performers going through the motions quickly so they can collect their money. In terms of fetish you can never go wrong with latex!
Amateur, real amateurs. Or Gonzo. And the best if the girl is candid for real, anything of: Nervous, shy, a bit scared or hesitateful. Oh yeah and first time or painful anal would be good too. The more reality, the better.
OK, here's some random and somewhat incoherent thoughts:
Anal - I'm an anal aficionado but I generally dislike all-anal scenes. Why? Well, think about it. Where's the build-up in that? You've started at the top and have nowhere to go. It may work on occasion because of the surprise factor but you can't break the taboo every day and still have a taboo.
Women - I'm in it for the woman. I don't want to see a gang of guys cluttering up the shot; I don't want to see long gynecological shots that could be of just anybody; I want your camera to show love for her. A woman's curves are a signal that goes straight to the lizard brain. Show them off. Use positions that accentuate them. A woman's eyes are the window to her soul. Show me her face as often as you can.
I like the women I like and there's no way for you to point at some new girl and know I'm going to like her. Bring in the new girl if you want, but don't count on that being enough to get my attention. I'm not one of these 10-scene-burnout guys who are bored with their favorite star after a couple of months. Therefore, if you present one of the women I'm interested in, then no matter how many scenes she's already done chances are I'll watch your movie, at least for that scene. If you knock me out with that scene then I'm more likely to see what else you've got.
Chemistry - well, it's great when you can get it but you can't buy it, so it doesn't hurt if you've got people who can act, not just lie there and take it.
Cum swapping - boring.
Cum swallowing - if you can make me believe it was natural, not something you set up and made a big production of, then it's hot, because it suggests the woman really wanted to do it. I can count the scenes where I felt this was actually accomplished on the fingers of one hand, though, so I'm not holding my breath on that one.
ATM - Again, it's hot if it comes across as natural, not as line 5 on page 2 of scene 6.
5 minutes of the guy jerking to pop - AAAAAGGGGGGHHHHH. NO MORE! I'M BEGGING YOU!!! I don't care if the jerk ruined your plans for supper or pissed you off in some other fashion making you want to humiliate him, keep it the fuck out of your movie!
Clothing - Clothing is a killer addition to visual stimulation but it is often completely overlooked or just done badly. We get 'theme du clothing' movies that leave you wondering whether you're watching porn or a fashion show. I was just watching a movie where there was a scene with three women in it, all wearing the same style and color of hosiery. Was I going, 'Ooh, those babes look hot?' No, I was going 'Why are they all wearing the same thing?' Don't go for a thematic look, go with what works best for each woman, realizing that sometimes that's nothing at all. And when you've got the female in some killer top, for god's sake, leave it on once in a while, especially if her breasts aren't her best feature.
Lighting - Use lighting to accentuate skin tone, not just illuminate it.
Finally, and please pay close attention - t h r o w a w a y t h e c o o k i e c u t t e r !
I hate it when each scene is just like the one before.
IAFD, supporters of beastiality. Just say no. 7564 Posts 11/02
Posted - Jul 27 2005 : 12:34AM
The short answer: Most of the time, I have got no idea.
The even shorter answer: Surprise me.
T.L.Tycoon said: “Personally the best Nap comes when I dont whack off for 2 weeks;bust a gooey load in a Girls Ass on a full Stomach of food.After I kick her out and lay down;its some of the best sleep I have.”
Thanks all! Great food for thought. Interesting how we all seem to agree it's the candid/non-cookie cutter/raw/dripping chemistry/element of surprise thing... not necessarily an act in and of itself. Yes, yes, I'm with all of you. A great many thoughts going through my wicked head. Interesting note on the wardrobe. I would have to add, I'm starting to really like watching kissing. Heavy spitty tongueing kissing. I feel like when that's there, you've got the chemistry going on.
I want to see TARYN THOMAS! Over and over and over again. I can look at this girl and it is simply over with for me. She gets me off at least 5 times a day.
As far as sex acts go, i would have to say the non-standard things that turn me on most are gapes, A2M, large group facials, and swallowing (with any number of guys). I'm also turned on by some rougher sex as long as the female is a willing participant.
Astroknight covered the important issue of chemistry well. Even if a film contains the acts that turn me on, chemistry is still very important.
A few other things that turn me on are some light plot and humor (like that in Erik Everhard's "Jailbait"), and of course cute female talent without huge tits (fake or otherwise).
One on one is best. More than one girl is OK, but never more guys than girls in any scene.
Performers who get off on each other. Or can act as if they do.
Kissing and petting both at the start of the scene and throughout. Exploring roving hands.
The guy eagerly eating the girl's pussy and ass. And for more than just ten seconds. He should really get his tongue up both holes. Also occasionally licking any part of her body within reach during the scene. Her feet too.
100% nudity.
A few close-ups, but mostly full body shots. Zoom out far enough to give her feet camera time too.
Long uncut sequences. (Almost unedited scenes if you can)
Outdoor sex. In and around a pool.
Some bushy pussies. Variety is nice.
A few don'ts:
No jerk-to-pop! He must get off on her, not his hand. No Ass-to-Pussy! Infections are woodkill. No abuse! Verbal or physical. No forced gagging!
-I like scenes with high-energy sex and great chemistry between the performers. -I think it's hot when the girls really work up a sweat in their scenes. -I agree with Kperv when it comes to one-on-one scenes being the best (both for boy/girl and girl/girl). -I like seeing girls in the reverse cowgirl position because that is the best view to look at. -I like seeing when girls actually have an orgasm(s) during their scene.
This is not exactly a direct answer to your question, but:
more tease more full body nudity better sound better lighting 100% cum swallowing more nipple pinching more chubby girls more black girls with white guys less talking (gag every man on the set except the director) 100% natural breast
messy sloppy bj's (the kind of inari vachs used to give) with lots of spitting and drooling especially in 2 on 1 scenes but without any help (spit)from the guy .
more scenes with 2 girls and one guy.
more mouth to mouth/face spitting and drooling between the girls only (not the guys)
more barefoot and showing the girls feet and toes (doesn't have to be foot action just capturing the foot from time to time). and please no man's feet sucking - i don't think guys like to see that. foot fetish is for woman's feet not man's (unless you're gay)
more aggressive girls less aggressive guys - seeing a cute sexy innocent girl like teagan or others being the dominant in the scene is such a turn-on.
less shitty lighting - no one wants to see a sex scene while he actually cannot see anything (and no black and white crap either)
less spitting from the guys - it's disgusting (steven french is a good or maybe bad example to this - he ruins every scene he's in it).
What gets me off is LOTS of g/g kissing with LOTS of spit mixed in with the kissing. Also LOTS of g/g mouth to mouth spitting. NO man spit... just the girls. EXTREMELY messy "2 girls blowing a guy" , with lots of spitting into each other's mouths and faces and swapping each other's drool. Cumswapping with LOTS of kissing.
What I do think is rapidly becoming defunct is the business model of cranking out volume after volume of this "fetish" or that "fetish" to a built in market for 2000 copies.
Aside from the creative constraints imposed by the limited schedule and budget inherrent in this approach, the problem bigger problem with this gambit is a terribly limited profit potential. Sure, you might now you'll move 2000 copies of every volume of Sperm Burping Teens you put out, but all the spices in Arabia won't move that number to 4000 units. The only way to make more money is to put out more and more volumes of the same.
And if you find an act or costume based nitch that's working, there's nothing to keep every other cat with a handicam and an iBook from putting out a copy cat series, futher saturating the nitch with look alike product. Since there just aren't enough sperm burping lovers to absorb the supply, sales numbers of each individual title fall.
As number fall, profits profits fall; as profits fall, budgets fall; as budgets fall, production values fall. In the end the producer's business model revolves around making videos for the least amount of money possible, and selling them to a relativly small audience that doesn't care how the video looks or about the performers' chemistry, so long as there are X number of girls doing act Y for Z number of minutes.
Even if you started shooting this kind of video for this kind of audience on hidef or 35mm, it won't increase the units moved. (Said Aiden [ invalid url ]) And at the other end, there's no shortage of cheap producers shooting cheap talent on cheap equipment driving the number down. At 24K discs/year (one title/month), a producer's got a nice little business; not getting rich, but maybe better than flipping burger or selling real estate. Except the average gonzo does more like 1500 out the door and doesn't see much re-order. At 18K dicss/year, it's harder to keep your mortgage and health insurance paid.
I dunno, maybe it's my own lack of imagination; maybe there is yet another twist on the mechanics of how people fuck that could be the next gonzo goldrush. But even if I am, the minute it's "discovered" they'll be a dozen copycats rushing in and capping the upside both creatively and financially. It just doesn't look like a very fun game to play.
Kat , I really LOVE what you do on Hustle's Cum Swappers series ..in the beginning of the scenes...thats really HOT and seems to get everyone worked up and ready for a hot scene ...you have an incerdibly sexxxy voice...wish you could be pt of the scene more tho : ) I also would love to see A LOT more 2girl/1 guy scenes..but w/a lot more variety and enthusiasm ! I'm probably somewhat in the minority of lovers of thses scenes that actually likes(well LOVES) it when there's some competitive nature to this bj between the girls..I really dig the dirty/catty looks and grabs at the cock the girls give each other..thats just "what gets me off"...but I dont necessarily like for the scene to begin (or end) this way, as w/anything in porn/sex there should be a build up and the scene should progress from there . I think ZT and as I mentioned KAT do this very well ! keep up the HOT scenes !
sincerity, the more realistic the better. make me FEEL you cum, sell the pain of a huge cock up your ass. worship cock, eat it not just suck it. more deepthroat talent (not forced gagging) focus on quality not quantity. I'd rather watch a well shot, sincerely portrayed one on one scene than any gangbang. and improve picture/production quality, porn has been the fuel of the internet explosion and should be taking full advantage of the hd environment. screw the jetsons and their flying cars, we should have porn that sits on your face by now! 3d? pornographic holography?
and another thing! if they can make video games with rumble packs and motion control, wouldn't it be great for porn! heres an idea, eyetrek glasses http://www.vrealities.com/eyetrek.html with porn shot in imax hd. with a smellavision nosepiece http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=20868 interfaced with an attachment(dildo/vibe or sleeve)that reacts to scene motion (strokes when he strokes, hammers when she's on top, rumbles when she grinds) http://www.libchrist.com/sybianvenus/venus.html these days if you can envision something it can be made!
Thanks Beavis69. Tell me more about the hands free blowjobs. I do hear this on ADT and the reviewers. Though, in my peronal life, every guy I know loves it with the good twist of the strong hand and the sucking with a moving tongue. What's up with the hands free blow-jobs in porn? I like a mix of that. And I particularly like it when the guy is fucking the girl's mouth. But can you guys explain more on this to me?
kat, that was me with the handsfree head request, the twist feels great as well as the tongue tip under the head in person, I just think handsfree looks better on screen. especially when the girl swivles her head as she moves in and out like a barbers pole! another plus in my opinion would be her holding her hands behind her back as if handcuffed, that highlights her tits as well. i'm not big on gagging/choking/throatfucking unless the girl can take the whole shaft and enjoys it, to me sex should be enjoyable. with all the forced head in movies I think it overshadows a girls true oral skills, it's hot as hell to watch a woman worship a cock as I said earlier and eat a cock more than suck it. Another thing you don't see much (if any?) of is the girl sticking a finger in the guys ass while she blows him, oh- and spit definitely works for me!I hope you didn't feel the suggestions I made addressed your work specifically, it was for the overall industry. I've actually not yet seen your work yet but I'm going to check it out now.
rolemco, thanks so much! No, no worries on anything said. I was just throwing the whole question out there with regards to getting a current feel for everything that turns on the boys these days... or turns them off. I love being a woman and shooting naughty movies. Though, my perspective, as I'm sure you can imagine, is what I think would most please a man. I love understanding this more and more. And, not having a penis, well, I have to do alot of listening. Thanks for the info on the no-hands thing. Yes, love the hands held behind the back. With regards to the man fucking the girl's face. That's something I've found I've gotten into... perhaps it's more from a woman's perspective... because the man is so dominant. After watching a bunch of movies, and having shot it many times, I finally tried this in my personal life, and you really have to be open to the guy... to trust him... and to worship him as this dominant being (not just the cock), to allow him to thrust this hard and long thing down your throat. I guess it all goes back to the general theme of this thread... the girl has to be into it.
Nothing says I love you so much as a tongue in the ass. 2884 Posts 1/03
Posted - Jul 27 2005 : 6:12PM
What I'd like to see is the directors taking the time and making the effort to match up performers better. Interview the girls and find out who turns them on and what they especially like to do, then build around that. Most directors have guys that they find reliable and use under all circumstances. They hire the women like they were menu items off the agency pages. A mission statement that includes the importance of a woman's arousal and pleasure. Staying with productive positions and not just making timed changes to get in every variation. These are some things that would make for good sportfucking videos IMO.
kat, I cant speak for everyone , but I think you are right about guys like some hand action, especially the twisting/ringing type(slowly) ..I personally LOVE this, especially if the girl is doing a little teasing or dirty talk while she takes a break during the bj..btw..loved the scene in Hustlers Cum Swappers 1 w/Lauren Phoenix ! Have you done any other scenes w/her ? You and her would make a great "tag team" ...maybe Mike Quasar or the boys at ZT can add you to the lineup for the next "Blow me Sandwich" or "Double Decker Sandwich"..how bout it ? :) Looking forward to more of you in the Cum Swappers series..and others !
Great thread Kat...gives all of us pornographers something to think about!! I too think the day of formula gonzo is dead...I really like the idea of the talent being hot for each other and putting some foreplay back into the scenes. I mean seriously, how many of our wifes or girlfriends will let us start off with anal...none that I have been with. A famous LA DJ of many years ago said on the radio "A woman is like a frying pan...you have to get her warm before you slip in the meat" (Bill Balance, KFWB radio...he was kicked off the air for that comment)
Beavis69, I love Lauren! Shot a lot with her. Recently shot her in one of very few four-ways with her... in "Gash." The boys and I had her in a pile driver and we slowly tease her luciious ass with a large red butt-plug with a pony-tail coming out of it. I was working her with it, before she takes it in the ass. If I can remember correctly, my four fingers were in her ass, as the cock is in my hand, in her ass. She's an amazing preformer and such a good person as well. Blackwidow, I'm so with you... if you want to get the girls into the scene, you have to get them to want to really fuck their partner and that certainly isn't going to happen just by turning on a camera. The trick in this business, I think,... the girls get so conditioned to do what they think they're supposed to do... you have to break them out of that... you have to get inside their head... you have to get them past preforming. Mason does this incredibly well, which is why I'm such a massive fan of hers.
Rough sex provided the girls are into receiving it. It's also a real turn on when they're being rough with the guys as well. Julie Night slapping the guys in 'Taste that Ass' is a real turn on scene.
Sloppy, noisy blow jobs.
Footwear - It doesn't matter whether it's thigh length boots, high heeled stilettos or trainers. And I love seeing the girls tottering along in their heels or boots.
And finally, I love seeing the girls getting dressed for their scenes and having make up applied while being interviewed about their scene to come.
JakeH, if you like the girls being rough to the guys, you should check out Mr. Pete's "Who's The Bitch Now." Sandra Romain is REALLY rough. And she LOVES it!
FOREPLAY!!!...coupled with a nicely dressed girl (a dress, stockings, corset!!!!!). Believe it or not a good foreplay is TIMES more exciting to me than seeing spitting for example...which is repulsive.
And for the record straight sex...with no anal where both partners are into it (read chemistry) is again TIMES better than a forced anal-"o, see how nasty I am"-action.
The performers appear to be enjoying the sex, especially the woman. Moans & groans are good, if not overdone. I like to see the woman masturbate while fucking and sucking. Most women I've known do so. Enthusiasm is good, but shouldn't be overdone and appear phony.
Talking dirty: Fuck me. Pleeeeze cum in my mouth. Etc.
Eye contact w/ camera, hence w/ me.
My personal kink preference is bukkake and cum swallowing. Hence, woman should appear to crave the cum, can't get enough, slurps up any that misses her mouth, loves to play with it, gargle, blow bubbles. I'd love to see a contest in which 2 (or more) women compete to see which one can hold most cum in her mouth as measured in beaker w/ cc marker. Winner gets to play w/ it all and swill it down. Eye contact is crucial in cum swallowing flix. And good close-up camera work. I also like to see women talk w/ their mouths full of cum. A great scene would be gorgeous woman on her knees w/ 10+ loads and gargling while 10 more shooters provide their thick, heavy loads right on top of the roiling pool of cum. Finally, woman masturbates to orgasm, then swallows while she's cumming. Hey, I can dream can't I?
General atmoshpere... I'm a fan of classic porn from 70s 80s. I really like the playfullness that a lot of those old scenes had. There wasn't any mean spirited humiliation and the people involved seemed like they were there because they wanted to be. I also loved that the women often looked like real women(Holly McCall being a favorite) and they weren't all trying to look like they'd just left High School.
Another thing is I'm with Porn Oyster in wanting to see women leave their clothes on a lot more and especially lingerie... realistic costumes (fewer g-strings) that don't vanish in the first 10 seconds... girls using underwear to jack a guy off (hate guys wanking themselves all the time)... I watched a lot of Swedish Erotica back in my impressionable youth (80s) and while that scarf thing might have been a bit silly... well, now it's a bit of a fetish and I can't help but having a bit of turn on just at the sight of 'em.
Paying trib-ute to SinncentVanSage 1412 Posts 12/04
Posted - Jul 29 2005 : 9:27AM
The most important thing for me is that the girls obviously enjoy themselves. That means, if you don't like it, don't do it at all. Or do it only if and when you feel like it. It's great when a girl is creative and full of energy, so that a director can just say: "Go out and enjoy yourself". (Two thumbs up for Patrick Collins!) Then I like to see real orgasms (though I don't pretend not to fall for a well faked one). I want these girls to get off. It's nice if you can see it, too, so I find squirting very erotic. It's also great when a girl who doesn't squirt herself works with a squirter and enjoys getting squirted on. Oh, and I really hope the pussy is not becoming defunct because it's the body part that turns me on most. Of course I also like a cute face, a nice natural rack and an ass to die for but I can watch that on TV. When I want to get a pussy with all that I need porn. So more pussy, more fingering, more cunnilingus and more real female orgasms, please. And of course it's none of my business but please remain natural, girls. The only artificial part on a girl should be a label that reads "Made in [insert country], consists of 100% girl". Okay, okay... I know... if you can suspect a little make-up to be there but not necessarily see it that's okay. And I don't mind clothes, glasses, braces or hairpins to hold pigtails in place, either.
Dreaming of having as much sex as the average monk (with adults, though)
For me, I'm more into eithe reality-based shoot or the more kinkier stuff (but not shocking like scat/piss).
I like it when it's an amateur type shoot where the girl is testing her boundaries. A good example is Ashley on analdestruction.com (or something like that). They pretty much just document her first anal fucking (it was uncomfortable for her and had to stop at a certain point). She also take a facial on another shoot and gives her honest reaction. My dream shoot would be a full fledge documentary follow a porn actress as she performs stuff that she hasn't done in real life yet (show her move up the ranks in the porn industry)
I love Behind the scene feature on DVD. So Porn producers, keep then coming. I love clean-up shots and the lot. Hell, I love the puking shot of Maggie Star in I love it Rough (mainly because most of the puke was sperm).
As far as the kinky stuff, other than cumswapping and bukkake, I love stuff that goes on the edge without being too shocking. I love shots like girls taking cumshots while they are talking on the phone, walking down the street with a face full of cum, two girls walk down a public street with their mouth full of cum then engaging in a passionate kiss while the cum flows out. This stuff was done in Japanese porn shoots so I hope US shoots get more edgier. But then again there was the cum omelete and cum burrito on American Bukkake, heh.
I would classify Scat, into more the "sick fuck" catagory, while it doesn't necessarily have to stink, to shock.Precisely why I would consider that shot, a shining example, of one having measureable shock value.Not a sick fuck, you just like it uniquely unpredictable
I'm a very old-fashioned guy. I HATE gonzo, don't care for anal, and various fetishes do nothing but turn me off. That's not to say i do not enjoy a good orgy, but the whole "violation" stuff is a huge turnoff, and gonzos are lame as well. I want my porn actresses to act and to create realistic life situations that lead to hot sex. This is why I so prefer 80s and 90s porn to what's coming out nowdays. Not to mention, I'm yet to see a truly beautiful woman to come out in the 2000s... they all stayed in the 90s, I think.
Seeing lots of sweet younge ladies prancing around wearing panties, gets my juices flowing. Specially if they are all bent over in a row, with their butts nicely arched in the air. I'm not really big into the whole fettish wear thing either. IE. Collars, pleather, chains, lil neck ties etc... I wish some producers/directors would create a more natural look with the girls sometimes. The office girl look is always fun though. Sineplex does a nice job of this.
American reverse gang bangs with stars - I would love to see starlets like Loni, Tianna Lynn, Lani Lei, Vanessa Blue, Flower T., Katja Kassin, Cytherea and the like have rough reverse gang bang sex with some lucky dude like Eric Everhard or Manuel Ferrara. Kinda like a Violation Of series except in reverse, with NO GUY GETTING FUCKED IN HIS ASS WITH A STRAP-ON! I really believe the reverse gang bang market is so overdue for a great series, and I really wish some company would step up to the plate and make it happen.
