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| Pentasa Deactivated User 233 Posts 9/08 |  Posted - Dec 7 2008 : 2:10AMCorrect me if I'm wrong but it seems that foreplay involving cunnilingus has all but gone out of fashion in modern day porn. I remember a time when it was almost mandatory for the male talent to reciprocate. We had passionate muff divers like Mark Davis and Tony Tedeschi staying put 'down there' and refusing to come up for air until they had brought their partners to an orgasm before they started fucking.  [Link] |
killbillvol69  All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18634 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Dec 7 2008 : 2:14AM [edit: maybe it got banned along with pubic hair in the Great Porn Treaty of '99.] [edit again: which leads me to wonder - they have pubic hair niche flicks now... will they have cunnilingus niche flicks soon?] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 12/7/2008 2:16:34 AM  [Link] |
| Pentasa Deactivated User 233 Posts 9/08 | Posted - Dec 7 2008 : 3:05AM If there was ever an award for Master Muff Diver of the Adult Industry, it would have to go to John Tedeschi hands down! The guy would go down on every women before fucking them no matter who or what. I remember a movie I watched several years ago where I swear he stayed 'down there' for eternity til he almost turned blue and eventually came up lookin dishevelled and disoriented probably from lack of oxygen, LOL! I have yet to see a male pornstar's tongue go to work on the clit like John Tedeschis. John, if you are still around, I salute you!! Are there any current male pornstars who eat pussy more often than others? Edited by - Pentasa on 12/7/2008 3:19:12 AM [Link] |
| killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18634 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Dec 7 2008 : 3:17AM [Link] |
| Pentasa Deactivated User 233 Posts 9/08 | Posted - Dec 7 2008 : 4:05AM It'd be interesting to get a female pornstar's perspective on this issue. [Link] |
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| Steve Holmes Senior Member 1235 Posts 12/02 | Posted - Dec 7 2008 : 5:12AM [Link] |
| Pentasa Deactivated User 233 Posts 9/08 | Posted - Dec 7 2008 : 6:05AM [Link] |
| Ida Lupino Deactivated User 429 Posts 11/08 | Posted - Dec 7 2008 : 8:48AM 2- the viewer has to stare at a guys face during cunnilingus - yuk! [Link] |
| Pashby Member 12 Posts 11/08 | Posted - Dec 7 2008 : 8:59AM Also... may not be "pussy eating" as so... but michael stefano just loves being smothered in P&A! Edited by - Pashby on 12/7/2008 10:19:40 AM [Link] |
| Cumwhipper Senior Member 4050 Posts 3/04 | Posted - Dec 7 2008 : 10:01AM [Link] |
| Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Dec 7 2008 : 12:06PM But the best way to deal with this kind of a problem is to adapt the sex-action to the medium and make it look good on screen rather than eliminate the action altogether. Perhaps a more spectacular way to do it would be for the guy to reach over once in a while and give the lady a good pussy massage, while she is sucking him or something else is going on. It's pretty hard to combine cunnilingus on the lady with some other type of sex-action at the same time, the way blow jobs by the lady are usually combined with other sex-action. But a hand-job from the guy on the lady can be easily combined with many other types of sex-action on her. And perhaps this is what porn movies need to show instead of cunnilingus in order to make it look good. [Link] |
| realtip Deactivated User 2301 Posts 6/04 | Posted - Dec 7 2008 : 1:02PM [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Dec 7 2008 : 1:45PM Everything in porn is a question of how it looks. I believe one of the reasons it went away is because there are too many porn directors who believe that penetration must always be clearly seen or they're not making good porn. This leaves a very limited number of camera angles and sex positions. And most of them look awkward as hell. If it's ugly and hard to shoot, most pornographers (it seems) won't bother. There's something else. I would have never suspected it but since I've been reading this board, I've come to realize homophobia is playing a role here. I have actually heard guys complain that they feel gay masturbating to a man eating a woman's pussy. It makes no sense to me but I've read a lot of complaints stating the same thing. It seems few directors want to draw the ire of the homophobes. So that is the reason you rarely see a man's face in straight porn anymore. You don't see a lot of really good g/g pussy eating, I reckon, because most women are not gay or bi and it's kind of a hard thing to fake. G/G action tends to go straight to dildos and other toys because most porn chicks (I guess) are straight. [Link] |
| goldenballs Member 343 Posts 7/04 | Posted - Dec 7 2008 : 2:26PM I would actually argue that there is to much at times and not enough BJ action. I think its one of those things that watching it happen doesn't do a lot for me. [Link] |
| Len801 Deactivated User 754 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Dec 7 2008 : 3:18PM The "problem" (if it is be called a problem) has to do wih the present movie format of all-sex/gonzo movies. A lot of time is spent with girl preening, bending down, showing off her ass, with camera following one inch from her butt as she walks up or down a long stairway, etc. Then she sits down plays with her pussy, etc and a male, fully nude and erect enters the scene and the girl immediately starts sucking him off. So there is really no foreplay or not much of an opportunity for the guy to suck her tits or lick her pussy other than in a curosory way. Then pussy and anal punding dfollows for the next 30 muinutes or so until he cums all over her fac. That's the porn formula, so a lot of cunninlingus is basically reserved for g/g scenes. Having said, I must mention that Steve Holmes nearly always performs cunnlingus with the female talent (at least in the scenes I have seen). He is one of the few that cares about this type of activity (or perhaps is allowed by the director to do that). [Link] |
| Knuckle Kids Deactivated User 287 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Dec 7 2008 : 7:43PM 1: Watching a guy go down on a girl in a porn flick is boring. The last thing I want to see in a porn flick is some guy's ugly mug buried between the legs on an actress, and it's the first thing I fast forward through. Now girl on girl pussy eating is nice, but for only a few minutes. 2: It could also go into the whole gay argument as there always seems to be one guy going down on the girl during a gang bang. 3: Lastly, do we truly care if the girl gets off or not? I mean, really? It's nice if they do, but I really don't care one way or another because most of the time it's so overacted that it's just that, overacting. Edited by - knuckle kids on 12/7/2008 7:44:26 PM [Link] |
| licker Senior Member Heretic, Iconoclast, Skeptic 1141 Posts 8/03 | Posted - Dec 7 2008 : 9:52PM That would have to be the strangest thing I have heard in a long time.Are they the same guys who enjoy blowjob scenes where the entire 42 inch screen is filled with larger-than-life cock?  [Link] |
| Thunderbird Member 96 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Dec 8 2008 : 7:49AM [Link] |
| Clam Digger Deactivated User Many a man fails as an original thinker simply because his memory is too good. 2268 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Dec 8 2008 : 10:16AM I avoid scenes were there isn't any. I think it was why a lot of girls like working with Manuel Ferrara. He not only gets them going with is tongue, but is fingers also get plently of use. He takes care of the girls and therefore his scenes are usually very hot. I think a lot of folks in the porn industry enjoy sex to little and are clueless about what makes a scene hot. [Link] |
| Clam Digger Deactivated User Many a man fails as an original thinker simply because his memory is too good. 2268 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Dec 8 2008 : 10:20AM Edited by - Clam Digger on 12/8/2008 10:03:53 PM [Link] |
| TCB Zaye Entertainment 33 Posts 12/07 | Posted - Dec 8 2008 : 2:34PM A)Hygiene reasons! is the most common complaints in my black book to date! B) I think half of the guys just dont like too! C) How can I go down on something that has had many loads blow all over it! ( alot of guys are visually stimulated and knowing this person did a cream pie yesterday does not represent a delicious visual)) Here is my top three from the last 10 years of shooting Edited by - tcb on 12/8/2008 2:35:50 PM [Link] |
| realtip Deactivated User 2301 Posts 6/04 | Posted - Dec 8 2008 : 3:11PM But you're right that it makes no sense. I don't understand how seeing the guy's face during the scene is any more "gay" than looking at his dick for an entire scene. I also don't understand why people who would rather not see the guy at all would even choose to watch straight porn. Seems to me like they'd rather watch lesbian porn. The reason I prefer not to see cunnilingus has nothing to do with the guy's face being in the scene. It's just the act itself that I don't find all that appealling. There have been a few rare occasions when I wanted to see a girl get her pussy eaten. But that has only been in scenes where the girl is just absolutely tremendously hot and her pussy just looks too exquisite to be resisted. But again, those types of porno girls are usually quite rare to come across, no pun intended. Most times, I just prefer not to see it. Nonetheless, I still don't agree that cunnilingus is absent from porn. I'm still seeing it in just about every scene I watch. [Link] |
| Wild Billy Member I'm a Girl Watcher! 759 Posts 6/06 | Posted - Dec 8 2008 : 7:04PM [Link] |
| Knuckle Kids Deactivated User 287 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Dec 8 2008 : 10:23PM [Link] |
| killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18634 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Dec 8 2008 : 11:40PM Everyone who's posted here so far seems to disagree with that claim. If you look closely at the two posts that may have seemed like they were saying that it's "gay" to watch a guy go down on a girl, I think you'll see that they weren't actually saying that at all. The first, from Ida Lupino: "the viewer has to stare at a guys face during cunnilingus - yuk!" - I assume by the tone that Ida is claiming that many people don't want to see the guy's faces, but that Ida is not one of those people. I could be wrong though. Ida's posts so far are a bit erratic. The second, from goldenballs: " Maybe watching close-ups of Mark Davis or Erik Everhard has put a lot of people off watching pussy licking." - I think goldenballs was referring to his opinion that these two men are particularly ugly, or that they have a particularly "unattractive" style of eating pussy. Again, it's possible that I'm wrong. But I think if it were a general claim of "it's gay to see the guy's face", he wouldn't have cited particular performers. [Link] |
| Clam Digger Deactivated User Many a man fails as an original thinker simply because his memory is too good. 2268 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Dec 9 2008 : 1:27AM Most woman actually achieve orgasm most often with either digital or oral stimulation, not the dick, especially a Mandingo sized one. As for me I'm a lover. I want to see passion and heat on the part of the female, whether I'm being intimate or watching. Which is where cunnilingus and finger fucking come into play. Unless I'm the recipient, I find BJ's boring. I could care less if the guy in the scene is getting off. I don't care so much for the pop-shot either, especially when facials are concerned. It does nothing for me that Peter North can hit a bulls-eye at a 100 feet with his spluge. See any scene with Sunny Lane and Manuel Ferrera or get a hold of Sports Fucking with Penny Lane and Manuel Ferrera and you will see my favorite kind of porn. It certainly ain't gay. I'm not sure if using gay is altogether correct in this circumstance as many gays love women, but just not in a sexual way. Anyway that's my  .Edited by - Clam Digger on 12/9/2008 1:42:35 AM [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Dec 9 2008 : 2:50AM I like to see women enjoying themselves. It's often fake but sometimes it's quite obviously real. It's worth asking directors to shoot it. [Link] |
| Fernandez Deactivated User 781 Posts 12/08 | Posted - Dec 9 2008 : 6:01AM [Link] |
| Knuckle Kids Deactivated User 287 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Dec 9 2008 : 1:23PM [Link] |
| Clam Digger Deactivated User Many a man fails as an original thinker simply because his memory is too good. 2268 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Dec 9 2008 : 2:51PM [Link] |
| realtip Deactivated User 2301 Posts 6/04 | Posted - Dec 9 2008 : 4:07PM In these discussions, people tend to overlook the fact that pornography is produced mainly for men, which means it adheres to male fantasy. I think we can safely assume that many more men fantasize about getting a blowjob and fucking than about eating pussy. While porn still includes cunnilingus in most scenes, it's not the act that the audience is watching to see. This is the reason that there are thousands of blowjob movies, but no "eating out" movies. It's not an act that is going to attract the average porn viewer to a movie or scene. And those who are into it are seemingly in the minority. [Link] |
| Clam Digger Deactivated User Many a man fails as an original thinker simply because his memory is too good. 2268 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Dec 9 2008 : 6:08PM [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Dec 9 2008 : 7:48PM It's the same thing with everything else in porn. How many blowjob movies are actually really good? Out of the 60 some odd BJ movies I've seen in the past couple of years, I could've done without seeing about 50 of them. Not because many of them didn't have their moments. But because mostly, they were a waste of my time and money. The talent was lousy. They either weren't into it or I didn't find their performances very good. Maybe the lighting was bad or the angles were all wrong or they had a fisheye lens on the camera that drove me batty. The point is that BJ movies can be fantastic and we all know they can be because we've given them a chance and we've seen what happens when everything is right. We just sort through the junk because we know the gems are there somewhere. If you judged all blowjob movies based on one or two picked at random, what would you think? Edited by - randomprecision on 12/9/2008 7:49:29 PM [Link] |
| licker Senior Member Heretic, Iconoclast, Skeptic 1141 Posts 8/03 | Posted - Dec 9 2008 : 8:06PM [Link] |
| Knuckle Kids Deactivated User 287 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Dec 10 2008 : 12:37PM [Link] |
| Big Raider Fan Member Ready and willing 133 Posts 8/07 | Posted - Dec 11 2008 : 6:39PM [Link] |
| Loraine Senior Member 1559 Posts 3/04 | Posted - Dec 12 2008 : 8:01AM I just watched Shine Louise Houston's "Champion" - if you want to learn something about pussy eating watch real lesbians, or about finger fucking for that matter..or pussy worship or just all round hotness see it. [Link] |
| realtip Deactivated User 2301 Posts 6/04 | Posted - Dec 12 2008 : 4:12PM JM Productions has a series called Reverse Bukkake. I have never seen it, neither do I intend to, but it seems to be along those same lines. I think it's a series that has a bunch of women all "squirting" on one man. I don't know whether or not any actual cunnilingus is involved. [Link] |
| pire Member 75 Posts 1/04 | Posted - Feb 22 2012 : 3:10PM JM Productions has a series called Reverse Bukkake. I have never seen it, neither do I intend to, but it seems to be along those same lines. I think it's a series that has a bunch of women all "squirting" on one man. I don't know whether or not any actual cunnilingus is involved. [/quote] Actually these series were a very good alternative on what we have used to.. the ''need'' for a new porn format is obvious .. Bring the pussy back !!! [Link] |
| Amawatcher Member Show it to us! 134 Posts 9/11 | Posted - Feb 22 2012 : 4:02PM The visual can work with the cunnilingus..Good looking loose, used cunt and girls to spread them is out there. This one I could eat forever, and you can bet its very used and very loose and looks "hungy" as has been mentioned. http://www.ausmodels.com/models/USA/dancer-maria/photos/41047/ [Link] |
| Zaxxx Member 96 Posts 1/12 | Posted - Feb 23 2012 : 8:07AM There are some fellas from a few years back that have done a good job, and seemed to genuinely enjoy it...Julian Rios for example. Currently Ferrara seems as if he really enjoys it. [Link] |
| Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Feb 23 2012 : 2:59PM Ladies have erectile tissue on their genitals too. And it would be interesting to watch the guy literally suck on the lady's erectile pussy tissues, instead of licking them. Because when the lady gets her female erection, then her pussy opens up on its own, like a pink flower, ready to receive the guy's cock. [Link] |
| Hoya Deactivated User 338 Posts 2/12 | Posted - Mar 16 2012 : 4:50AM [Link] |
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