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| juha Senior Member 2752 Posts 3/05 |  Posted - Sep 11 2007 : 10:20PMyou're gonna be a first rate MILF in 15 years. [Link] |
| juha Senior Member 2752 Posts 3/05 | Posted - Sep 11 2007 : 10:27PM Edited by - juha on 9/11/2007 10:28:32 PM [Link] |
| jrsl76 Senior Member Perfection 4024 Posts 8/07 | Posted - Sep 11 2007 : 10:41PM And as to something I never addressed with the first post. I think it is great if less girls are getting implants, but not because they will look younger. Instead, I like this because I f-ing hate most implants. [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Sep 12 2007 : 1:48AM Edited by - randomprecision on 9/12/2007 1:49:22 AM [Link] |
| Dick Froth Member 293 Posts 11/05 | Posted - Sep 12 2007 : 2:08AM [Link] |
| Slonik Member 87 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Sep 12 2007 : 3:04AM [Link] |
| The Porn Doctor Member 218 Posts 7/07 | Posted - Sep 12 2007 : 7:57AM [Link] |
| juha Senior Member 2752 Posts 3/05 | Posted - Sep 12 2007 : 9:11AM Most of the women with a long successful career in porn didn't join the biz as a barely legal chick. That's evidence enough that a 21 year legal age would help to make the world a better place (even though just a little bit). And I don't feel sorry for the consumers who wouldn't get their school-uniform-braces-pigtails-simulated-underage-porn anymore. Anybody who needs this barely legal (in fact looking illegal) stuff to get off has a serious problem. Edited by - juha on 9/12/2007 9:21:47 AM [Link] |
| cassidy essence Member Myspace fucking sucks the deleted me aagain 140 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Sep 12 2007 : 4:32PM to add, i have respect for MYSELF and others. [Link] |
| juha Senior Member 2752 Posts 3/05 | Posted - Sep 12 2007 : 5:29PM you seem to have a good head on your shoulders. People grow up at different speed. A legal age like any law can't do justice to people individually. We need to find a compromise which does justice to the majority. And I'm sure while many girls at the age of 18 aren't aware of the lifelong impact of the decision to do porn, most of the 21 year old women are aware of this impact. [Link] |
Hardware  All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02 | Posted - Sep 12 2007 : 6:42PM If they choose to ignore it, well, that's part of being an adult. Frankly, I think too many parents want to shield their children from reality long past the point where it is beneficial. They should be to teaching them how to cope with it, instead. [Link] |
| juha Senior Member 2752 Posts 3/05 | Posted - Sep 12 2007 : 7:20PM I should have taken my English lessons at school more seriously. ;-) What I want to say is that today in the age of mass media you need to have special skills for decisions media related. I don't have a problem with 18 years driving cars or choosing their apprenticeship. If the choosen apprenticeship turns out to be the wrong one he/she can stop and move on. Its different with decisions which expose them to the whole wide world. Once in a porn vid her decision follows the girl forever. Hence I am for 21 years as legal age for porn. Same goes for reality TV etc. Edited by - juha on 9/12/2007 7:22:42 PM [Link] |
| juha Senior Member 2752 Posts 3/05 | Posted - Sep 12 2007 : 7:30PM Edited by - juha on 9/12/2007 7:33:28 PM [Link] |
| juha Senior Member 2752 Posts 3/05 | Posted - Sep 12 2007 : 7:41PM [Link] |
| Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02 | Posted - Sep 12 2007 : 8:11PM [Link] |
| cobalt60 Knuckle Dragger 2046 Posts 2/03 | Posted - Sep 12 2007 : 10:10PM You'd have to get the hose out to get me off of that. [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Sep 12 2007 : 11:42PM You don't teach people not to make what you feel are bad decisions by taking away their choice. If it's a bad move, it's a bad move. It isn't always.Yeah, but what does that have to do with 18-21 year olds? When dressed appropriately, they generally don't look any younger than they actually are. For that matter, I've seen 30 year olds dressed up in little plaid skirts sucking on loli pops. Surely you realize that you're moving into the absurd when you suggest that they shouldn't be allowed to pretend? It's just ridiculous. If you wanted to change the legal porn age to 21, you might as well change everything to that age. Smoking, military, voting, driving. We're all over the map. You can trust a 16 year old zipping down the freeway at 70 MPH on her cell phone but you can't trust a 19 year old to decide who to fuck? Give me a break! I wonder how many 18-20 year olds voted for Bush? Maybe raising the voting age isn't such a bad idea. Somebody was clearly voting while impaired. Oh, but if we go and decide to change the legal age in the US to 21, what about porn from the rest of the planet? If porn with 19 year olds wasn't legal in the US but was legal everywhere else, don't you think that would pose a slight problem for people who get their porn online? So anyway. Here we have highly advanced technology. People today should be smarter than any generation before and we have people who believe a 20 year old can't be trusted to decide who to fuck. Well, there might be some truth to that but in my opinion, it doesn't get significantly better until you get to about 40. mod: nested quote removed Edited by - hardware on 9/12/2007 11:52:13 PM [Link] |
| mindee Member If you don't break the rules, you'll never have any fun! 717 Posts 10/06 | Posted - Sep 13 2007 : 6:25AM [Link] |
| Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02 | Posted - Sep 13 2007 : 8:36AM [Link] |
| juha Senior Member 2752 Posts 3/05 | Posted - Sep 13 2007 : 9:44AM I don't mind 18 year olds watching porn. I just don't want them to fuck on film preserved for posterity. I think you simply don't want to understand my point because you enjoy watching "these tight 18 year old pussies getting fucked" too much. That's selfish. We as consumers have responsibility too. [Link] |
| juha Senior Member 2752 Posts 3/05 | Posted - Sep 13 2007 : 9:45AM [Link] |
| juha Senior Member 2752 Posts 3/05 | Posted - Sep 13 2007 : 9:50AM Saying that anything is worse in any biz anywhere is a pretty lame excuse IMHO. This is a porn board. Hence I don't talk about the problems in the food biz. [Link] |
| juha Senior Member 2752 Posts 3/05 | Posted - Sep 13 2007 : 9:55AM After all this site is a platform to promote the latest product and not to reflect upon the production process. [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Sep 13 2007 : 10:09AM This is harsh but it's beyond ignorance in 2007 to fuck on camera without thinking about the consequences 1, 5, 10, 20 years down the road. Nobody with an IQ over 70 has any excuse for that kind of irresponsibility. You know why they go back and say they have all these regrets 5 or 10 years later? Because they can. They can do that and they know they'll get sympathy. Which, fine. I can empathize with people who have made mistakes and have regrets. Hell, I can even sympathize with criminals. But I'm not going to say that 18, 19 and 20 year olds who are capable of being fully aware of the consequences of their actions shouldn't be able to make their own choices. If they're mistakes, so be it. That's how life is.Yeah. Take a look around you and find something that wasn't made in China. Talk to me about responsibility. Teenagers in America are spoiled stupid and there are no excuses. [Link] |
| jrsl76 Senior Member Perfection 4024 Posts 8/07 | Posted - Sep 13 2007 : 11:08AM mod: snipped the quote Edited by - hardware on 9/13/2007 7:14:33 PM [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Sep 13 2007 : 1:10PM It's not the girl's fault that sex (along with their industry) has been demonized. And it isn't the fan's fault either. But sitting back and watching while society throws stones, or, even worse, joining in because you're too much of a chicken shit to take three steps away from the crowd is pretty low. [Link] |
| zorge Member 278 Posts 8/06 | Posted - Sep 13 2007 : 1:43PM [Link] |
| Zen Master 2007 Member 356 Posts 3/07 | Posted - Sep 13 2007 : 1:56PM Answer: "I keep getting older and they stay THE SAME AGE!"  Zen [Link] |
| mindee Member If you don't break the rules, you'll never have any fun! 717 Posts 10/06 | Posted - Sep 13 2007 : 7:45PM [/quote] We have to start at one point if we want to make a change. Saying that anything is worse in any biz anywhere is a pretty lame excuse IMHO. This is a porn board. Hence I don't talk about the problems in the food biz. [/quote] Hardware's certainly right, there are a lot of businesses out there where there are problems with young people. But the adult sex business has some very unique pressures that can truly screw up a young person far more than they can get messed up at Wendy McBurger King's. The quick influx of big money to someone who just left the semi-safe hallways of Plowhandle High School can be far too much for someone that age to reasonably handle. At my age if I choose to do a gang-bang or DP or double anal or swallow 38 loads, I can make that decision a lot more clearly than an 18 year old. Plus an 18 year old will be much quicker to make a very reckless decision for quick money which in the long run could infect a large number of adult workers. I think a little space between the high school doors and the front door of "DoMeNow Productions" isn't a bad idea. I realy think 21 is early enough. As it is, in many states you need to be 21 to enter an adult store or theatre. Edited by - Mindee on 9/13/2007 7:46:28 PM [Link] |
| Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02 | Posted - Sep 13 2007 : 7:47PM What may be true is that if eighteen year olds can't do porn they'll find jobs in other fields, and so they will never do porn just for the money. Despite what you think, this wouldn't bother me in the slightest. However, given that few entry-level jobs approach what one can make in porn, I'm not prepared to advance this argument as fact. Again, what won't be true is that not doing porn will prevent anyone from falling into the party lifestyle. The only difference porn will make in that regard is the amount of money one can blow on partying. At any rate, what is unlikely to be true is that anyone not involved in porn will understand how whacked-out some people are about it. In other words, I don't think that watching some Hollywood tabloid show prepares anyone for the kind of negative attention they may get for doing porn. Having said that, I tend to agree with RP. We may not be able to eradicate bigotry, but we don't bow down to it. Doing porn may indeed prevent one from entering certain professions but it doesn't prevent anyone from becoming an admirable human being, a fact these boards make readily apparent. [Link] |
| Dick Froth Member 293 Posts 11/05 | Posted - Sep 13 2007 : 8:04PM Please don't feed me the bullsh*t about 18 years olds being too young. There are 15 year olds in adult prison doing 10 years and when they're released no one is going to give him/her a second chance. Instead they'll mop floors and flip burgers until they go right back to prison because they don't know any other way. Unfortunately I speak from experience. For you to say that an 18 year old isn't old enough to make their own decisions is pretty much a slap in the face to every young adult in society. Let's face it... if you're not mature by the time you hit your late teens then it's already too late. TRUST ME ON THIS! For the record- Yes I love watching teenage girls get gangbanged by bunch of guys. And no I'm not some 40 or 50 year old pervert. I'm an "80's baby" myself. :) Edited by - dick froth on 9/13/2007 8:05:14 PM [Link] |
| nibelungo Member "The trouble with our times is that the future is not what it used to be" P. Valery 145 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Sep 14 2007 : 5:12AM But if I knew that girl I'm watching on the screen isn't yet ready to do sex on camera I would be very sad;  I could dump immediately that dvd in the waste bin.Unfortunately also a 21 years old girl can be witless and regardless attempting a career in the pornography. Good companies would have to invest money to have specialized staff (psychologists, I think) able to establish if that girl (18 yo or 25 yo, no matter) is ready for pornography.  [Link] |
| mindee Member If you don't break the rules, you'll never have any fun! 717 Posts 10/06 | Posted - Sep 14 2007 : 6:44AM Right. All I'm saying is that a 21 year old has a bit more experience and a better world-view than an 18 year old does. It's completely true that you can find witless people at any age, but I think in general, a 21 year old can make a better informed decision than an 18 year old can. Edited by - hardware on 9/14/2007 9:56:02 AM [Link] |
| Lustilicious Member 32 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Sep 14 2007 : 8:35AM Oh yeah, like that might happen. Still, I'd pay to see the session. :) [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Sep 14 2007 : 9:10AM Oh. Wait. That's only death. Now porn. Porn? Well. That's sex. Sex, for crying out loud! [Link] |
| jrsl76 Senior Member Perfection 4024 Posts 8/07 | Posted - Sep 14 2007 : 9:40AM Edited by - hardware on 9/14/2007 9:56:26 AM [Link] |
| Guam Member 613 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Sep 14 2007 : 3:21PM
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| Guam Member 613 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Sep 14 2007 : 3:27PM Look, youth in a woman is attractive as it is a reproductive imperative that a mate be healthy and energetic. I guess in the Middle Ages that meant 18, since everyone died of old age at 39 or whatever. [Link] |
| Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02 | Posted - Sep 14 2007 : 6:50PM [Link] |
| Gabriela Rossi Member 29 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Sep 15 2007 : 2:14AM I personally find it uncomfortable to do scenes with girls who look like children. Their beauty, innocence and freshness brings out the nurturing side of me and I almost feel like hugging and protecting them! I wouldn't be able to let go of the feeling that I'd be corrupting or violating them. yuck! I feel as though I could only get nasty and dirty with a girl who seems more experienced. [Link] |
| mindee Member If you don't break the rules, you'll never have any fun! 717 Posts 10/06 | Posted - Sep 15 2007 : 6:32AM Edited by - hardware on 9/15/2007 10:35:04 AM [Link] |
| mindee Member If you don't break the rules, you'll never have any fun! 717 Posts 10/06 | Posted - Sep 15 2007 : 6:38AM Edited by - hardware on 9/15/2007 10:36:32 AM [Link] |
| cassidy essence Member Myspace fucking sucks the deleted me aagain 140 Posts 6/07 | Posted - Sep 15 2007 : 8:34AM Although there are many girls who walk into this biz for all the wrong reasons such as: Fast cash, the dream of becoming a "PORN STAR", or simply to lazy to go to school and find a normal clothed job. So once they start the biz and figure out its not for them its to late, they now no longer know how to make money, though they hate them self's for their lifestyle. So family's disown them, and friends turn their backs.In SOME eyes having sexy on camera and getting paid for it is still prostitution. drowning in tears of grief,  and snorting their pathetic pain away."news flash" stupidity comes in all shapes and sizes ! As for myself, you'll never catch me drinking, so that eliminates drinking and driving. As for porn, I came her because my home town wasn't offering me anything useful, so I chose to give it a TRY. WELL shall I say I FUCKING love it  so I moved down right away! For the first time in my whole life I found where I belong.I Love the Sex, I have Real orgasms most every scene, best part is EVERY day each scene is a different challenge, I practice to perfect my performance and learn fun tricks along the way, YES I love to play in my personal life.THATS THE HONEST TRUTH! O0o0o0o I can count my TRUE FRIENDS on ONE hand, and my relationship with my family is wonder FUCKING ful !!!!  I HATE TRAFFIC but I wouldn't go back to my home town if you paid my ass! I'll visit once in a while! So maybe Its not the age that needs to be changed, maybe its the small nobody agencies who LIE about the facts of porno and drag these girls out here for STARDOM  , when reality they will be another HASBEEN by morning, and just another porn performer, who no one will remember. BUT that agency made a quick buck off them, so they kick them to the curb. it's funny how they call them self an "agencies" but who really cares???? they did their job, found them work.Some one needs to regulate, make It more difficult to become a porn performer. so these little AND older girls who don't know any better don't fuck them self's for life! [o\|] HELLO I AM CASSIDY ESSENCE, I am 18 AND I REST MY CASE, THANK YOU  .:*:.Cassidy Essence.:*:. Edited by - cassidy essence on 9/15/2007 9:12:52 AM [Link] |
| ToneBone Member 176 Posts 8/07 | Posted - Sep 15 2007 : 9:38AM The bottom line is, if you're deemed too young at 18 to have a Coors Light at the local dive or play the slot machines at Palm's, surely, without question, you are too young to get banged on film and have it recorded for posterity. And for the record, I believe the age for military service should also be raised to 21. This doesn't guarantee that people will not make mistakes, but it does reduce the odds. The ridiculous argument that "if you're not mature by 18 you'll never be mature" is pure none-sense. Even on a biological level, the brain circuitry in the areas involved in sound judgment don't even fully develop until we're almost 20. Even on a physical level, some of these girls look 14 for god's sake. Which I'm sure is one reason some of our friends are so passionately in favor of the current age limit. [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Sep 15 2007 : 10:56AM The only reason why you and those who agree with you have a hint of a point is because people in the US don't know how to raise their kids properly. And you know what? That's not my problem. If you're a parent and you're worried that one or more of your kids will end up in porn when they turn 18 and later regret it, then do something about it. Raise them right and they'll be ready to make intelligent choices when they're 18. If they still make mistakes and regret it, then you'll know you did your best and you don't have to scapegoat it on anyone else.I don't actually believe that. I believe that if you can fuck anyone at 18, the legal age for everything else should be 18 as well. And the legal age for driving should also be 18. If it's got to be 21, then it should be 21 for everything and it should be 21 everywhere. But there's no reason why an 18 year old can't make intelligent decisions. Many don't because they aren't properly educated.Or nonsense, even. The argument is that a person should be mature enough by 18. Of course the older a person gets, the more mature the generally become. But that is true all the way to death. If all else is equal, a 40 year old will probably make better decisions than a 25 year old. Who knows? Maybe if we rose the legal age of consent for porn high enough, nobody would do it. Sex becomes less and less important as people get older. Even money isn't so important once you have some. I can see it now. Raise the age to 21 and in ten years, when you guys realize it didn't completely kill porn and girls are still coming out the other end complaining about their should haves and would haves, you'll want to raise it again.What does that mean? That a 19 year old is completely clueless? Women doesn't reach their sexual peak until when? Close to menopause. Does that mean they shouldn't fuck before then? A person's body and mind never stops changing. We're in constant flux. And you're trying to say that because a person's "judgment center" is only 90%, they're psychologically incapable of sound reasoning? Does that mean their test results in college are invalid unless they're at least 20? Gosh! Maybe we shouldn't even trust them to choose a career until their judgment is "fully developed"! They might change their mind after they've spent tens of thousands of dollars.Well, hey. I'm sure there's granny porn out there for ya if that's what you're interested in. 20 isn't too old for porn. This is true. Even 40 year olds are still attractive as far as I'm concerned. And gosh, golly! I sure hope some flaky 17 year old doesn't decide to go left in her car when she should have gone right and run my ass over! As far as your last statement goes, I'm sure you have a point. I used to know a woman who was approaching 25 who still appeared to be under aged. Should women such as her not be allowed to do porn because they look younger than they are? For that matter, most oriental women look much younger than they are. But you're not gonna pile all that baggage on me. I don't think many of the teens in porn look like they're 14 unless they're deliberately dressed up to look that way. I'm actually far more interested in older women but if she's hot, she's hot. As long as she's legal. It's not my problem if you feel wrong for jacking off. Really. Edited by - randomprecision on 9/15/2007 11:09:01 AM [Link] |
| ToneBone Member 176 Posts 8/07 | Posted - Sep 15 2007 : 3:21PM A lot of things SHOULD be. People SHOULD know stealing is wrong. But I'm not gonna leave my car unlocked and go on a cultrual crusade against stealing instead!"you guys"?...."kill porn"??... Oh I get it. You're labeling me as the bible thumping conservative trying to take porn away. huh. Very clever. (Kind of)Stop setting up straw men.Choosing the wrong college major is not a mistake you can't correct later. But having permanent footage of you on the internet with cocks in every hole is slightly harder to undo when seeking employment or finding a partner. Yes I know it "shouldn't" be. But it is. And yes, I know that it's not you so it's "not your problem", but keep reading.Yet another straw man. Are you shooting for a personal record?wtf?!Exactly! That's what it all boils down to: It's not your problem. That's the principle behind all your arguments. The rest is just fluff. No matter how much you twist things around and hide behind pseudo-philosophical platitudes, the fact remains: A society that enacts laws to protect teenagers from gambling their money away or even getting drunk at bars, surely would need laws to protect them from selling their bodies on film. It's basic common sense. All the opposing arguments amount to no more than "So what...I like to watch 18 year olds get fucked!". [Link] |
| Shagdog Member Houston 626 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Sep 16 2007 : 8:29AM Perverts like to be high and mighty trying to look down on other perverts. If the legal age for porn were 15 You would have Barely legal 15. If it were 13 you would have barely legal 13. Youth and inexperience has always a desirable quality for sex in our society. In Utah a religious leader is on trial for arranging the marriage of a 13 yr old girl to her 19 yr old cousin. And that was common in that cult. The term pedophile has only recently been expanded to include post puberty teens. During this pedophile witch-hunt we’ve been on. Until recently the age of consent around the world ranged from 12 to 14. [Link] |
| ToneBone Member 176 Posts 8/07 | Posted - Sep 16 2007 : 9:06AM [Link] |
| Shagdog Member Houston 626 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Sep 16 2007 : 10:11AM Sorry dude the world does work that way. [Link] |
| ToneBone Member 176 Posts 8/07 | Posted - Sep 16 2007 : 10:44AM Anyone who can't differentiate between the two, is either of limited intelligence or has an obvious agenda. [Link] |
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