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| woody d Member 38 Posts 10/05 | I've just finished watching another dozen or so all-the- same cumshots, and I just plain do not see the appeal in watching some guy jack off on some girl's face, or boobs, or stomach. Maybe if someone could explain what it is that makes some guys want to watch that exact same thing, not just several times, but dozens or even hundreds of times over the course of a decade or more of watching adult videos, it would help me understand, or tolerate it, a bit better. But it has gotten just so monotonous, so always-the-same, and frankly, so stupid-looking, that I'm ready to just quit watching, period. In another thread -- on the lack of appeal in watching "frantic fucking" -- Kimi Lixx mentioned that the actors and actresses do what they do, because they're trying to generate the appearance of "heat". Okay, fine. For me, "heat" gets generated if the guy and the lady act like they're really, really getting into it, and enjoying it, and enjoying each other. It's like watching a movie, and being able to quit thinking about who the actor is and what else he's starred in, and instead, start believing in the character and the storyline. Or, it's like a basic rule taught in every class on beginning fiction: don't ever force the reader to "suspend disbelief", by telling him/her something that disrupts the story line. Well, gee. When some guy pulls out, and jacks off onto some girl's face, it sure does disrupt the hell out of any effort to believe that he's really getting into it. And the same for her -- how many interesting, intelligent, mature women actually want some guy to jack off onto their face? Talk about breaking the spell . . . that's a killer. And cream pie shots are no better. Gee, what a thrill it is, to see some guy pull out until just the head of his pecker is barely in, and then finish, by jacking off. Does it actually get anyone excited, to watch some guy do that? Does any guy who is REAL ever actually DO that, when he's caught up in the thrill of really great sex? Maybe the problem is just the monotony, of knowing it's ALWAYS done that way, in adult videos. No matter WHAT the buildup is. If any guy wants to try to explain why he really wants to see the same old "money shot", EVERY TIME HE WATCHES A VIDEO, I'd be willing to read whatever he wants to say, and see if I can actually believe it. But a better thing would be a bit more variety. Such as, for example, a few completely natural cumshots, all the way in. As far as I'm concerned, if the director wants to prove the guy actually came, he could have the lady douche immediately afterwards, and then show us the white cloud, in a glass bowl, over a black velvet background. At least that would be a little bit different than the same-old same-old we keep getting, again and again (and again and again). Or, if the guy looks healthy, and competent, and has a good, strong, firm erection, AND IF HE LOOKS LIKE HE KNOWS HOW TO USE IT, then I'd be more than willing to just plain take it on faith that he had a "happy ending", if it's soft by the time he pulls out. Will it take a bit of acting? Not necessarily, but if he can "sell it", fine. I'd be willing to go with that, too. Edited by - woody d on Mar 22 2007 [Link] |
| Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14596 Posts 3/02 | |
| BigMatt Member Sunrise Adams, Queen of Cute. 498 Posts 12/04 | Also, cumming on a girl is a fantasy of many guys as well, so it has an appeal in itself. Especially if she seems to enjoy it and plays with the cock/cum. BTW, I enjoy handjobs way more than watching guys jack themselves off onto a girl. I think the reason for this is the fact that it feels even more exciting to see her "do it herself", because you would like to experience her doing it to you. |
| fatalbert Member Diagonally parked in a parallel universe 576 Posts 5/03 | I am curious, too, to hear others' explanations of its popularity. I get into the sex itself, but I tend to FF the cumshots, though postcum head is sometimes good. |
| DtotheJ Member 190 Posts 8/06 | |
| BuffaloSoldier Member 70 Posts 9/06 | Fortunately for everyone, porn is about fantasy. And is that fantasy really destroyed by a facial cumshot? I think that ship probably sailed the third or fourth time the chick tasted a cock straight from her asshole. You're right that a lot of pops are pretty redundant. That's why there are so many threads looking for movies where the girls finish the guy off with their hands or mouth. That is so much hotter to me, because the guy is under her control and the build-up to the cumshot is so much hotter. |
| LubeNLuv Senior Member 1854 Posts 3/06 | It's because deep inside, all male porn watchers are gay and we enjoy watching another male masturbate himself to an orgasm. The fact that a perfectly capable hot chick is a foot away from the model when he pops himself is just eye candy to assuage our heterosexual feelings of guilt. No, I'm serious....I read that on [insert random porn site here] so it MUST be true. /sarcasm off Lots of threads about how guys aren't really that into watching male porn stars jack themselves off lately. Maybe some directors will listen? I can only hope. |
| khyber Member 197 Posts 5/06 | Why? There is just something about seeing a hot woman's face covered with cum, it's just a big turn on for me. |
| Brandon Iron BrandonIron.com 3832 Posts 3/02 | Something is out of kilter when a beautiful young lady looks like this: or this... or this... It's almost like a crime against nature because you don't expect a beautiful Madonna to act like such a whore. |
| DJ3 Member 48 Posts 3/06 | |
| Dean Wormer Senior Member Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son. 1048 Posts 7/04 | |
| BigMatt Member Sunrise Adams, Queen of Cute. 498 Posts 12/04 | |
| duffy Deactivated User 208 Posts 4/06 | |
| deepudicks Deactivated User If The Good Times Did Not Last Then Believe Me Me The Bad Times Shall Also Passs 100 Posts 2/07 | On the other end of the road the guysdon't want to spend their free time getting DNA's done coz some dumb pussy they creamed on camera claims she is the mother of his child and neither has any way of disproving it...as it's all there on cam in HD with Dolby surround sound. Thus globally the thumb rule for every porn flick is to keep creaming the babes but never shed ur load inside the valley of dolls. Let it rest in any and every orfice of the babe but never in the uterus(that sounds more vulgar than vagina or pussy?).It's better to be safe than sorry. Regarding why we keep watching the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over again even when we know how it is going to end is becuase the end result maybe the same but the performers keep changing as does the audience that views porn...so ever day/night/afternoon a new bunch of folks take matters into their own hands and jerk off their seed as they watch a new episode if they ain't so lucky to spill it all inside some willing hole. That alone is the reason why even the most repeated scene that is obviously predictable is watched with renewed interest...even though my video collection maybe the same quite interesting when the partner changes it's like watching it for the first time...all over again!!! |
| BustdownGal Member 539 Posts 7/06 | I love you Brandon for the links. I dream of getting creamed by you and your friends like that. I also thank you for showing me a website I'd never seen before. kewl. I like cumshots the same reason I like seeing the bad guy get caught at the end of the Hollywood movie, or the whole family start to sing and dance at the end of the Bollywood movie. Because it feels good. Seeing someone cumming feels good! Doesn't matter if it's fake or not. I like to see good things happen to people. This means I've recently gone crazy over the new female squirting trend. The female ejaculations in "Swallow My Squirt" look so convincing that I can really fucking get off hard on them. I have had over 100 orgasms from SMS 1-3, I'm sure of it. So for me, I've discovered it doesn't matter if the cumshot is from a guy. I like people cumming because I know myself how fuckin' awesome it feels. The messier the better. The more voluminous the better. The less you care about the mess because it feels awesome, the better. The less you care about destroying the make-up and hair that took 2 hours to build, the better. The more everyone in the scene enjoys sharing the bodily fluids because they are so drowned in pleasure, the better. Don't even wipe it off...just go to sleep in your own sex sauce and wake up hours later crusty. I love it. |
| CarbonT Member 404 Posts 8/05 | This thing about it being a birth control method (see above a comment or two) seems a little dense. |
| Brandon Iron BrandonIron.com 3832 Posts 3/02 | Click here ...and Annette Schwarz Let's keep things dirty and crazy! |
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| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Edited by - randomprecision on 3/24/2007 7:36:20 AM |
| fatalbert Member Diagonally parked in a parallel universe 576 Posts 5/03 | |
| rc7394 Senior Member 1109 Posts 8/04 | |
| Endless Loop Senior Member Tomatometer 1129 Posts 8/04 | This imo, is so that regardless of what happens to our wits, theres always a backup source, that ensures us an alternate means, or drive to reproduce. While its function would ofcourse be meant for the real thing, it nevertheless reacts to porn. It could be certain imagery of the flick, is sent to the brain via impulses that are either confirmed or denied, based on the content of the imagery. So, as stated earlier, "seeing someone cumming feels good!", and particularly if theres just cum, and a girl's face. Otoh, when more of a male is viewable, and it becomes evident it's not you, the dropoff is consequently less than rewarding. How else, could anything as nonsensical as seeing an ounce or two of fertile body fluid, splash across a female face or tongue, have such a compelling, interminable effect on us, almost universally. Infact, when it occurs repeatedly, (multiple facials) the effect only heightens. Thats like finding a circus clown's squirting flower gag, infinitely hilarious.
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| Brandon Iron BrandonIron.com 3832 Posts 3/02 | |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | But here's a starting point. I'm not sure what you want to see if you don't want to see stuff like cumshots. Could it just be that's what most people like to see? At any rate, if you don't like to see cumshots and the like, solo masturbation (female only) porn sounds like just the ticket for you. It's out there. I've seen it. But I guess, more to the point, what exactly is it that you would like to see? Whatever it is, it's pretty likely that it's out there. Maybe not as prominent as most mainstream stuff but again...most people like the cumshots. Or are you just trying to make some sort of insinuation about people who like his kind of porn? I'm not accusing you of that because I honestly don't have a clue but it happens a lot. What's so mystifying about closeups in porn made primarily for men? What I find mystifying is porn shot from half a mile away. Are you talking about a specific kind of closeups or all of them? |
| fatalbert Member Diagonally parked in a parallel universe 576 Posts 5/03 | You did not address my opinion that there is little or no heterosexual porn out there that does not heavily emphasize the cumshot. I am not sickened nor even put off by cumshots. I question only their importance as to emphasis in each scene. As to closeups, your specious alternative of "porn shot a half mile away" tells me that you're only venting. I remain ignorant of the alternatives you advise me to seek. "solo masturbation" is hardly heterosexual. |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | However, I think in other lines, they are emphasized for the reasons I just stated. The cumshot is the climax. It's important because it's what porn is all about. Getting off. But more than that, some of us feel that it's visually appealing for a hot, young face to be covered with cum. Why? I don't know. I'm not a psychologist and I'm not even going to try and psychoanalyze something that turns me on because I'm not going to risk ruining one of life's few simple pleasures just to satisfy my curiosity. If there is some deep, hidden meaning or reason for it, I don't really want to know what it is. It's enough for me to look at the girl covered in cum, get turned on and bust a nut myself. There was a time when I was interested in analyzing this kind of stuff but I found that it was ruining porn for me. Sometimes, it's better not to question why. You can break anything down into it's component parts and guess what? When you do, when you unravel the mystery, it's not exciting anymore. If you could take an exotic sports car and break it down into all the little individual components that were used in it's fabrication, would it still be appealing? Well, maybe if you're one of those folks who don't mind knowing what makes the magic. Me? I don't really want to know why. I'll watch what turns me on until it doesn't turn me on anymore (if that day ever comes) and then I'll find something else or I'll take a break for a while. Well, you didn't exactly go into any detail about what you meant. You just said "mystifying closeups". Are we supposed to read your mind? I've seen a lot of closeups in porn of a lot of different things. Some of them I find arousing and some not but I have no idea what you're talking about unless you can give a specific example.Again....if you want alternatives, you have to look for them. They won't just fall out of the sky. I don't know what you're looking for. Sometimes, it's better to say what you are looking for, rather than what you aren't.I've looked for alternatives to "plain old porn" quite frequently and I've seen some stuff that's way out there so I know that whatever it is you're looking for is probably there. You may not find it by asking people here. You might not find it for months or years. But if you look for it, you will probably find it, eventually. I can tell you that if you don't look for it, you probably won't find it. It's up to you. |
| fatalbert Member Diagonally parked in a parallel universe 576 Posts 5/03 | |
| woody d Member 38 Posts 10/05 | In reply to RP, I've been looking -- damn hard -- for the kind of porn I'd like to see. Which would be along the lines of healthy, intelligent, and attractive young people, who act genuine, natural, and real. And, I've probably seen hundreds and hundreds of adult videos, in that search (which is probably a clue as to why some guys just keep looking and looking, and looking for more -- because they STILL have not yet found what they want). For me, the problem is not that it sometimes happens. It's that it ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS happens in just damn near EXACTLY the same way, with monotonous regularity. The only variety (if you call it variety ...) is whether the guy is going to jack off on her face, her boobs, or her stomach. Or whether he might -- big whoop -- pull out all except the head, and jack off inside her (which is how ALL!!! cream pies are done). What I'd like, instead, is to find some completely natural and normal cumshots, of the type that would lead me to keep believing that the two people are being affectionate, and caring. But, it has to be accompanied by at least some nice closeups; I just don't get turned on by most "couples" videos (and I've seen dozens and dozens of those, too). It's really, really easy to say, "Keep looking, it's out there." Gee, that's real helpful advice. But here's a better approach: if anyone out there can name even a single damn adult video with a combination of (i) good closeups, and (ii) a natural, normal cumshot, THEN TELL US THE NAME OF THE DAMN THING!! And if no one can, even among this crowd of professionals ... well, that's pretty good evidence that it probably doesn't exist. As for me -- I'm pretty much checking out, and leaving. I've learned how to take just the scenes I want, and sequence them the way I want, using video-editing software to make customized DVDs. So to hell with all you "professionals" -- if you can't (or won't) give honest and intelligent customers (like me) what we're looking for, we'll go someplace else, and figure out a better way. |
| BustdownGal Member 539 Posts 7/06 | Maybe asking pornmakers for a "normal" cumshot is like asking the broadcasters of the NBA to show some "normal" basketball playing. Like the kind you see being played by average joes in high school gyms and on courts in the city park. You ask for "healthy, intelligent, and attractive young people, who act genuine, natural, and real." The key word is "act". If you want professional "acting", you have to stop looking for it in porn and check out mainstream movies with the budget and the experience to create the kind of theatrical illusion you seek. Porn is about sexual *performance*. Porn videos are more about the *sport* of sex. You're frustrated because you are expecting to find IFC sensations on ESPN. Besides, your words are so subjective. Your "real" is the next person's "bullshit". Your "mutual affection" is the next woman's "female subordination." Perhaps you should look at porn as ways that *other* people get off, as opposed to looking for a reflection of your own reality. The only way you will see your own reality on-screen is if you create it yourself. Even then it would be hard to make the final product match the mental vision. On a certain level, woods, I'm feeling you. But for me, even mainstream movies have a hard time making me think "that reflects my reality." But I don't get frustrated by that. I just accept the film's vision as someone else's reality, and enjoy the opportunity to experience it for 2 hours. Regarding the jerking that seems to be the center of your ire... 1. A partner's acceptance of your cum is a display of how sexually aroused they are. 2. A man feels loved if his partner likes him down to his very semen. 3. A man feels dominant over a partner on which he's shot his cocksnot. So how many women want to be cummed on? Ask us after you've made us cum a few times. Orgasm loosens inhibitions faster than you can say "put your finger in my ass." Which reminds me...how do you feel about "natural" face pops? Like when she's blowing you so good that you just pop without warning in her mouth or on her face? Have you ever done that? All this sturm und drang, yet you freely admit that couples movies trying to give you what you ask for don't turn you on. You want guys coming inside women? Watch mainstream movies or softcore. They are the opposite of porn in that they *never* show external cumshots. You want close-ups? Use the Zoom button. |
| woody d Member 38 Posts 10/05 | I can understand, agree with, and accept much of what you say, on an occasional basis, to add variety, spice, etc to a relationship or sex life. But does the same thing have to happen, every damn time? For example, if some guy wanted to come on your face, once every couple of months or so, fine. As long as that's okay with you, hey, enjoy it, any way you can. But, if some guy absolutely had to do it that way, EVERY SINGLE TIME you ever had sex, and would NEVER come inside you . . . well, after a while, you'd probably start thinking he was kind of sick in the head, and it was an unhealthy relationship that wouldn't ever really go anywhere. Or, as described in "The Joy of Sex," pickles can be great. They can add some real nice variety to a meal. BUT ... and this is the important part ... if someone never eats anything EXCEPT PICKLES, then that's not a healthy diet. The title of the posting was written that way for a reason: "what is the appeal of >> SO MANY << cumshots?" In other words, why does it have to be that way, every single time? Why doesn't someone put some variety, and spice, into the mix? No one has yet even come close to giving a good answer to THAT question. Is it stimulating, for some folks, to see cumshots? Fine; then there should be plenty of adult videos with exactly that. But does every single adult video really have to show the same thing, over and over and over again, while the "normal and natural" niche gets absolutely zero, zilch, squat, nada, nothing? With regard to your closing comment about, if I don't like external cumshots, then I should just watch mainstream stuff, because they don't have external cumshots ... obviously, you're completely missing the point, in an effort to be clever and cute. There's nothing wrong with being clever and cute ... except, of course, when it completely misses the point. If you (or anyone else) still don't get it, then I'd recommend that you start eating a diet of pickles, and absolutely nothing but pickles. And see how long that lasts, and how good it makes you feel. |
| eduardo911 Senior Member 1299 Posts 8/03 | BTW, Brandon, I want to commend you for shooting some of the best facial scenes in porn history, I recently subscribed to CoverMyFace and some of the scenes are really amazing (particularly Vanessa, Veronique Vega, Leah Wilde and Jordana James). But... wouldn't those lovely faces look even lovelier without the extreme close-ups? |
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| Brandon Iron BrandonIron.com 3832 Posts 3/02 | RE: Vanessa, Veronique Vega, Leah Wilde and Jordana James. Veronique Vega did a great job keeping her eyes open. Great girl. Tremendous beauty. Leah Wilde. Chose to do porn instead of being a lifeguard for the summer. Good for her! Good for the industry, too! Great girl with a beautiful face. Vanessa: New to the game but open to crazy stuff like taking loads on her mug. Fun teenager who aims to please while the guys just aim. Good times. RE: extreme closeups. The framing you see in the screen cap of Jordana James is how I like to see things. Further back wouldn't be as good, in my opinion. Give me an example of how you want to see it shot and I'll take a look. Thanks. |
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| BustdownGal Member 539 Posts 7/06 | I don't think cumshots are stimulating to *some* folks. I think they're stimulating to LOTS. We viewers want to know that the performers are enjoying themselves and getting off. This is a root reason to watch other people have sex. We are aroused by their arousal, especially the orgasmal height of arousal. It's the same with other artforms. We see actors expressing joy, fear or sadness onstage and onscreen, and we feel joy, fear or sadness as well. That's why the men cum and that's why the women scream and writhe. Believe me, if women ejaculated like men, they'd make women cum every scene too. I wasn't trying to be too cute in asking about softcore. Lots of the stuff on cable after midnight is the same old hardcore with cumshots and penis-close-ups edited out. With that kind of softcore you don't get the jerking you hate. And with softcore that's shot to be softcore (also on after-midnight cable), then the performances are tailored toward lots of internal endings. |
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| petryphil Member 31 Posts 1/07 |
Can someone give me a link where i can find a trailer of veronique vegas "covermyface" performance? Thx! |
| Brandon Iron BrandonIron.com 3832 Posts 3/02 | Click here |
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| Guam Member 613 Posts 2/07 |
Where is the shot you are talking about with Jordana James? That girl makes my heart hurt :-) Someone posted that she is a mom from the midwest that flies out for the weekend on occasion....I hope she stays in the biz....she is the full package. |
| Brandon Iron BrandonIron.com 3832 Posts 3/02 | Here is a link to the screenshot of Jordanna James: I love her reaction and this was a first for her. Not sure if she's done anything like that since that day but she had a lot of courage to come do it. Good for her! |
| JohnW Senior Member 1351 Posts 6/08 | I love watching cumshots, but if the cock or the spurts look very different from my own, it gets less exciting. So its no mystery for me at all really. A woman's beautiful smiling face + a cock similar to mine unloading on her = bliss. I'm not all that fixated on the face though (or the 'humiliation' that some some obsess about), it can easily be hot on another body part as well. I love handjobs as well, and I don't feel there's anything "gay" about it, after all I fantasize about it being done to me, and myself cumming. Too much focus on the guys's face will ruin it for me, but watching the cock cumming does turn me on (though I prefer the girl to be in the picture). |
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