Not so. There are guys and directors I just won't watch even if they're shooting a girl who I'm obsessed with.This still makes absolutely no sense to me. Take, for example, fake boobs. I have never been a fan of boobjobs. Ever. I have consistently hated them since I started watching porn in the early 90s. If I can tell it's a boobjob, I stop watching her scenes even if I was a huge fan. I'm also not a fan of titfucking. I like big (natural) tits. Titfucking just does nothing for me. Never did. The foot on the head thing. Never did anything for me. Women licking man ass. Just repulsive. It's almost enough to ruin the whole scene. I will FF through it every time. It is more and more common. That means nothing to me. If you like it, more power to you but it's not my thing. Tattoos. Hate them. Only very rarely have I seen a few of them that weren't eyesores. And that doesn't acclimate me to liking tattoos. I would still like those girls better without them. Ultra wide angle lens. Porn has been plagued by this for years and it has nearly ruined all porn for me.
Interesting theory but I can't say I've ever started liking a sex act I didn't like at first because a particular girl did it or through repetition of seeing it done. There's a part of me that almost wishes that's how it would work so I wouldn't still flinch in disgust when I get caught off guard with anal prolasping. There are things in porn I don't particuarly like but never went from disliking it to liking it no matter who's doing it. The best I've done is gone from not liking it to just putting up with it.
It's just a sex act that i love watching and will never tire of watching,if someone is an oral lover they will have the same love/lust for wanting to see beautiful girls suck cock etc.
I totally echo ur sentiments. The problem for me is how obviously painful/unwelcome, physically or otherwise, it is for the girl. I cannot get off on porn unless i can see/feel the girl is getting off, or at the least not totally miserable...for me a sister subject is the "crazy" porn done by belladonna, spit, rough anal. I want to see sexy girls have sex, why isn't that good enough????....all imo, of course! Good topic, something i've thought about for a while!
Keep in mind that there are girls who actually like and prefer anal sex. There's a thread here somewhere on the topic. There've been a few girls who've said they have a stronger orgasm through anal and girls who've said they can take bigger guys anally than vaginally. One only has to watch any of the many ANAL ACORBATS, ANAL BUFFET, and Omar movies where girls easily take huge objects anally to realize for many girls taking a mere penis anally isn't much of a problem.
OK. Look. Anyone who has been reading this forum long enough can tell you there are some very vocal fans who want to see painful anal sex. They ask for it repeatedly in multiple threads. People from the industry obviously read this forum (as evidenced by the fact that if you specifically mention a certain performer, they will often show up in person eventually to respond to your post). As I said before, the porn industry is the kind of business that (I think) responds to what it perceives as the demand so the "pain" that some people like and some people are objecting to could be fake. Whether the discomfort is real or exaggerated, I can't really say. But I will say that I think you're exaggerating as to the number of anal scenes where the girls appear to be in any serious discomfort for any extended period of time. I've seen it happen a few times where a new girl who had probably never done anal was just caught off guard. Some people like that. I personally think it's disgusting if they are enjoying that aspect of it but frankly, those people like what they like and nothing is going to change that. This is probably the safest way for those people to indulge those fantasies. Anal sex is not supposed to be extremely unpleasant unless you go out of your way to make it hurt. But it's different. It's not vaginal sex. The asshole isn't a sexual organ. Anal sex is supposed to be a perversion. That's the appeal of it for many people. It's no different than a blowjob in this way. The mouth isn't supposed to be used that way either. But the blowjob is Probably seen as perfectly normal by the same people who complain incessantly about anal sexWhich just might be an unreasonable expectation. Frankly, this type of porn is not about the enjoyment of the female. It's really nice if the female star is a real perv and she loves it but it's just not necessary. That's why this is a business. Basically, you're complaining because gonzo is gonzo. Gonzo and anal evolved together.
Random I think its totally cool to like to watch anal, i just don't. I did not mean that people who like this want to see women in pain, or that a majority of women that film this are in pain. My experience in "life" is that most women don't really like anal, perhaps i transfer that to what i like to watch. Even if the woman is not in pain, for me it appears most are not enjoying themselves, and thats a serious turn off for me. For me the more important point is the dissapointment when a sexy lady like Belladonna only does the CRAZY porn, I mean do crazy porn, but than do one guy one girl, both are into it but realistic. Another girl I love in a different way is Jasmine lynn, but it seems like nearly all her scenes are with two guys fucking her nearly to death. I really don't get it.... Cheers
It seemed to be what you were implying. If you go back and read what you wrote, it comes across that way. Which even if it was what you meant, I understand why someone might feel that way. Porn (especially gonzo) is often presented in such a way that you often can't tell when they're acting and when they aren't. Some people do tend to believe everything they see on a screen is real.I think that's probably the common male experience. But again, that's why porn exists for the majority of the male audience. We don't spend money on porn to see what we can have every night in real life. For a lot of people, porn is about getting as close as you can to indulging your fantasies. This might sound a little misogynistic but to be honest, women can usually have whatever fantasy they want in real life. And more than that, they can have it pretty much privately. Men very often just don't have that luxury. If an average woman actually wants anal sex, the fulfillment of her fantasy is very likely as close as the nearest horny male. Whether most women like anal sex or not really isn't the point. Rather, if they do, they won't have a hard time finding a partner who would eagerly fulfill their fantasy. Typically, this just isn't going to happen for the average male. If you're talking about the typical man in his mid 30s or 40s with hair on his back, a beer belly and a lackluster job, he's going to be lucky to get plain old vaginal sex in reality. The average woman is going to already be stretching herself to the max to accommodate this guy. Anal sex is obviously not something every woman wants. Which accounts for a whole lot of it's appeal in porn. There is always more demand for something that is in short supply. This is a very basic principle of running any kind of business.Well, again, that's just porn. Seeing women actually turned on in ANY porn is relatively unusual. It does happen but there's no magic formula for it. I've seen women hating vaginal sex too. Whereas pretty much all men are nuts about sex, this just isn't a sure thing for women. Again, they can pretty much have it whenever they want it. So even if the formula is right, you can't really expect them to be thrilled about having any kind of sex under a bunch of lights with a camera and a bunch of people standing around. Generally, it's something they just tolerate for the money.Well, that seems to be what she wants to do. Belladonna has a lot of freedom to do what she wants if my perception of how EA relates to their directors is correct. Edited by - randomprecision on 3/29/2012 7:51:19 PM
it's simply a matter of preference man. understand that trends you see in porn, is largely directed by consumer wants. so a lot of anal is indicative that many consumers want to see some form of anal in scenes. sure you may not like it, but many others do
^I don't believe in the "consumer demand" theory of porn, but many others do. I think a few smart/creative porn producers are shooting what they are driven to shoot, and everyone else is doing "monkey see, monkey do". With porn, somebody will buy whatever product is marketed. The anal obsession is monkey see monkey do. Of course people are buying it because that's mostly what is on the market. If it was mostly vaginal porn on the market people would be buying that too. Edited by - ninja1 on 3/30/2012 12:54:10 PM
There is a sizable subculture of people who do want to see women in pain. As rough anal sex is so destructive, they seek out exactly this material. Whether or not the performer seems to be in pain is unimportant. Tightness, friction, and delicate tissues combined mean the porn industry is basically committing civil and criminal negligence on a massive scale. Unfortunately, the government doesn't seem interested in prosecuting even blatant criminal acts such as prolapse play and extremely large anal insertions. I'll probably commit some blatant criminal acts of my own if the situation doesn't improve... And I know it won't.
^ A lot of mainstream movies show violence, pain, and even death. And this kind of thing even underage kids are allowed to watch on TV. Porn, including anal porn, is mostly about pleasure and not pain. Pain is an exception rather than the rule in porn. And a lot of times pain in porn happens unintentionally, like unintentional pain can happen in sports for example. But even intentional pain is an accepted part of some sports entertainment, such as boxing for example. If you are going to censor pain in entertainment, then porn shouldn't be your first concern. Because there is much greater violence and pain in boxing than in porn. Some boxers end up with permanent brain damage. If you are concerned about showing violence that might teach people to be violent, then mainstream entertainment shows much more violence than porn shows. And even kids are allowed to watch that violence, which supposedly teaches them violence.
this is not what i was talking about. Hypothetically it would be hard to make a case for a criminal act between consenting adults. I'm more just curious about what turns customers on. Sometimes reading here I feel like I am in a minority not liking anal porn, and somewhat surprised that the seeming majority as a matter of course prefer to see anal porn. Or, the oral gagging genre, totally lost on me. I stipulate that most anal porn fans don't like it out of sadism, rather they just like it. Is it the fantasy of taking a woman to the brink of what she can handle? just speculation. I'm often puzzled by customer comments about how a woman "took" a really seriously intense anal/gagging scene, I don't think of "taking it" when it comes to sex. There is clearly porn examples that cater to rape fantasists, while i find that distasteful again, its consenting adults. "there is no accounting for taste" in porn and elsewhere. Another poster commented that most men have (paraphrasing) uninteresting sex lives, dont get access to cute girls, are physically disgusting themselves, and prefer outlier stuff, anal etc. For me, I want to see any girl other than MY girl have good sex, give good head, and enjoy a fuck. I love cumshots, swallowing. I also love really strong chicks. Anyway, interesting forum, stuff I've often been curious about. Cheers.
^ In another thread about anal pain in porn, the original poster wrote:According to the poster above, he doesn't want to see pain for its own sake. He wants to see pain, because it makes the sex more real for him. And that's how it probably is for most porn fans who enjoy watching such scenes. The word 'real' of course can mean different things to different people. It doesn't really explain what guys want. My theory is that guys have a biological instinct to sexually exhaust their woman, so that she will have no desire or ability to go with some other guy and have sex with him too. This is a way for a horny guy to ensure his reproductive success with the woman. And of course, this biological instinct of men manifests itself more, when their relationship with the woman isn't exclusive and there are other horny guys likely to have sex with her too. Because a guy, who bangs the woman so hard and so much that she looses her desire to have sex with other guys, is a guy who gains a reproductive advantage over other guys. The male porn viewer naturally fantasizes about having this kind of hard, exhausting for the woman sex, because he has no secure relationship with the woman. The less secure is the guy's relationship with the woman, the harder fuck he naturally wants to give her. Because this is the way for a guy to discourage his woman from going with other guys and having sex with them too. It's the insecure connection between the lady and the guy that makes him want to give her such a hard fuck. And of course, porn fans want to see on screen that which they fantasize about. They imagine themselves to be the fucking guy on screen. And that's why they want to see him give the lady such a hard fuck.
First and foremost you have to remember where this discussion is taking place. This is a great site but the majority of it's members are of a hardcore gonzo audience who's buying habits and tastes don't reflect the vast majority of porn buyers out there. The majority of porn watchers don't know most pornstars by sight, aren't eagerly waiting for the next release from "X" studio, don't spend time worrying about the girls who don't do IR or anal, aren't following a performers career, etc., etc...I think the vast majority of porn watchers don't like watching the over the top stuff the gonzo crowd here likes and demands more of. That's why most discussions here are so skewded. All the threads here that complain about there "too much..." of a certain thing must be taken with a grain of salt because the majority of the stuff some people claim there's "too much..." of is only happening in a segment of the overall porn landscape that happens to be the harder gonzo stuff they usually watch. Gagging, slapping, spitting, choking, etc., have never been in the majority of porn released but to hear some people here who don't like it talk about it "it's everywhere". It's the same with anal sex. If you take away about 3 or 4 of the bigger studios there's a lot less anal happening in mainstream porn. Most of the other studios do anal scenes but it's usually only a scene or two per film or they put out anal specialty titles. I tend to think there's a small vocal crowd who loves anal, a bigger crowd who doesn't mind it, and an even bigger crowd who doesn't like it. If you look at the whole mainstream porn landscape anal porn isn't that common and isn't the norm.
"there is no accounting for taste" in porn and elsewhere. For me, I want to see any girl other than MY girl have good sex, give good head, and enjoy a fuck. Cheers.
It's totally wrong and unrealistic to think that if a girl is having anal sex she isn't having "good sex" or can't be enjoying themselves. You do realize that most of these girls have anal sex in their personal sex lives don't you? There's even girls who don't do anal on camera but do in their personal lives. You don't think those girls are having awful/painful sex when no cameras are on in their personal sex lives by choice do you? Most of the girls doing anal aren't in pain most of the time. Sure there are some who sometimes can't handle it but most of these women know what they're doing when it comes to anal sex. There's prep work involved and for many girls it's just another day at the office. As I mentioned before, look at those anal object movies from Jay Sin and Omar. There's also lots of fisting scenes on the net. Those movies show that an anus can receive a lot. So I don't think that many girls are sweating handling a man's junk anally. Porngirls are performers. Often times they're selling an act of "Oh, it's so big!!!" because that's what some people want. The pain aspect is actually there for some girls but some girls are playing it up but I don't think they're really even playing up "pain" in most cases. And maybe I'm not watching the same type of porn others are watching here but I'm really not seeing much "painful" anal. I see "extreme" and "intense" anal but not "painful". But then again if the girl looks like she isn't into the anal I usually tune out anyway so perhaps I'm just side-stepping it.
You might want to consider the fact that just because you think something is criminal doesn't mean that it is. Every day on this forum, someone has to argue with someone like you who doesn't understand that these people sign papers and agree to do this stuff. You cannot very well blame it all on the porn industry when the same girls do the same acts over and over and over. If they were tricked into it just once and they appeared to be completely miserable the entire time and never did it again, you might have a point. There are a couple of girls who come to mind right off who did the prolapse thing as their signature "move". This is obviously consensual and regardless of what you think of it, it's their choice to make. I'm personally not into the prolapse at all but for that reason, I do what any intelligent person would. I just don't watch it. You may wish to consider that making threats on a public forum is not a very smart thing to do. Believe it or not (unless you're really good with computers), you are not anonymous.
IMO anal is the most intense way a male and a female body can join together, for me anal in a porn scene is a must because in real life is not always possible for the reasons we all know.
+1. They're just as well not make anal scene if the girls cannot take fast and deep. Lately I've been avoiding Mike Adriano scenes since some/or most of them are getting lame, with only the head going in/slow and not deep. On another point, What the Fuck with wearing his pants while fucking. He is such an asshole. dirty_flea
The big difference between Mike Adriano and someone like Manuel Ferrara is that Mike Adriano is circumcised, while Manuel Ferrara is not. Which makes a big difference in how hard and how fast they can bang their ladies' asses. Circumcision really cripples the guy's ability and desirability of hard and fast banging for the lady. Because without circumcision, the loose skin around the guy's cock reduces friction for the lady a lot, which allows pretty spectacular banging for the lady without much risk of injury for her. But circumcision takes away this looseness of the skin around the guy's cock, which increases the friction for the lady a lot. Hard and fast anal banging for the lady from a circumcised buy can really injure her inside there due to too much friction for her. The circumcised guy simply can't do it, and it's not desirable to do it due to the risk of injury for the lady. Edited by - Dan on 6/22/2012 6:32:39 AM
i don't think it's that. It's more about opening for the camera. the faster/harder/deeper you fuck - the less you can open for the shot.... the less good of an angle you give the viewers. As a male performer, you have to decide if you wanna fuck for yourself and the pretty lady or for the viewers... Can you always see a good clean shot in Mike's movies ? he rarely covers the chicks. anyways. i know not everyone can appreciate that. Edited by - babaro on 6/22/2012 11:01:11 AM
^ A lot of Mike Adriano's scenes are shot in the cowgirl anal position with the lady on top of the guy. Which means there there is no issue of the guy possibly covering up the lady, when he goes deep inside her. I think the circumcision issue is the one. The best anal porn studs in the business are Euro guys who are uncircumcised. The porn industry doesn't make much out of it, perhaps because to do so would be a downer for American porn fans, most of whom are circumcised. When you surgically remove healthy, normal tissue from the body, then it's only inevitable that you will affect some function of this body in a negative way. Some people theorize that male circumcision came about as a way to discourage married women from cheating with guys. Because when the lady gets less sexual pleasure as a result of the guy's circumcision, then there is this much less temptation for her to cheat. It's the same reason why in some cultures women's clitorises are routinely cut off at around 13 years if age. They call it circumcision too. Edited by - Dan on 6/22/2012 12:40:50 PM
mike does mostly missionary - doggy - spoon - he does everything. and I don't agree with you at all when you say that the best studs in the biz are uncircumcised. i think most girls prefer circumcised penises - it also looks better on pics/video IMO rocco siffredi - nacho - michael stefano - mark ashley - james deen - the list is long...
^ I think you have a theory in your head and you're taking bits of unrelated info throwing it together to rationalize it. Porn girls generally have trouble with anal sex when they don't properly prepare, the penis is too large for them, or inexperience with the act. There's a small bit of truth to the uncircumsized theory because the foreskin/outer skin would protect the anal walls from the friction of the thrusting motion as the shaft moves back and forth within the outer skin. Thus once the penis is inserted in the anus walls don't have to feel the friction of back and forth motion because it's happening inside the penis' outer skin. Being uncircumsized would allow for an inch or two of deeper penatration with no friction to the walls but I don't think it would have any more affect than that. In the case of the type of anal sex Rocco and those type of performers have this all goes out the window because when they have anal sex the entire shaft (including foreskin/outer skin) pump in and out of the anus. With anal sex like that it doesn't matter if the penis is uncircumsized or not. It would be the same effect as someone using a vibrator or dildo anally on a girl (except softer).
It's true. A woman can lie back and think of England, while her guy rides her pussy in the missionary position. And this kind of thing is much more likely to happen on the porn set than in any other place. Because the porn set is so full distractions, such as cameras, lights, and other people in the room who aren't participating in the sex. Pussy sex often looks fake and insincere in porn, because the pretty lady is so distracted and not into it at all. You pretty much need a big horny guy or two gunning for the nice lady's ass with their cocks to make her forget all those distractions on the set and focus her mind on having hard anal sex with the guys. There is no way any pretty lady can ignore a big horny guy pumping deep inside her ass, the way she can ignore him during a pussy ride. It's like you need to shout in a noisy room to make the pretty lady hear you. Normal speaking simply won't do. And it's like this with two becoming one in a room full of distractions. Normal pussy sex simply won't do. Your body will be one with the pretty lady through her pussy, but her mind won't be with you. You need to go inside the nice lady's ass for a good anal ride with her in order to unite with her fully in both body and mind, despite all those distractions pulling her mind away from you.
Porn became monotreme. Since so many porn fans have never personally seen vaginas, they don't know a penis can fit in there. They think it's just ornamentation and all poop, pee, babies, and penises go through the other hole. That may be a permanent condition of b/g porn for the remainder of our civilization.
[quote="ninja1"]I don't believe in the "consumer demand" theory of porn, but many others do. I think a few smart/creative porn producers are shooting what they are driven to shoot, and everyone else is doing "monkey see, monkey do". With porn, somebody will buy whatever product is marketed. The anal obsession is monkey see monkey do. Of course people are buying it because that's mostly what is on the market. If it was mostly vaginal porn on the market people would be buying that too.[/quote] I agree with that. There is a lot in porn that we wouldn't be watching if it was not mainstream and accidentaly put under or eyes. And anal, along with facial are mainstream in porn. I did the reverse progression: Anal was one of the first things I saw in porn, almost at the same time as vaginal and oral. So nothing new or special, realy. Yet I hate anal because I want to see vaginal penetration. The ass hole is not erotic for me at all. And I find gapes disgusting, especialy when spitting on it, and with red marks. Also anal looks to me a little bit gay, or at least the gay way to do it. Like the guy do a girl anal because he's used to it with boys and that's the way he takes pleasure... Personaly I would never ever think of putting my dick in this hole despite all the upbeat comments by those who did it. And I never met a woman who wanted that neither.
Anal is nasty, especially with A2M included, which makes it a slutty act. There is a certain degree of complete domination about it too as with facials. Although I don't want to see the girl in pain there is going to be some genuine reaction to anal, positive or negative, while vaginal sex can be taken nonchalantly.
I wonder if anal fans watch it for sex or just to watch anal?
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I think unlike any other act, Anal says I'm nasty and I love porn.
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Because its nasty and therefore, my preferred style of porn.
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Posted - May 10 2014 : 1:16AM
Anal is the next level for me, any chick can do a vag scene, if a girls got a great booty i think its waste of time if she aint using it...i dont buy porn without anal.
Simply put, it turns me on. I could ask my dick why, but he doesn't talk. I'm an assman, so it's what I want the focus to be on in porn. It's still dirty and perverted, even though it's so prevalent in porn, but it's not in real life. Most girls aren't into it, so it's exciting to see hot women do it, even if it's mainly for money. It's even better when they're into it. The faces and noises they make are a huge turn on too.
Anal turns me on immensely in real life and in porn. I identify as a heterosexual male. For me it is the taboo that society has placed on that oriface...it is a dirty little hole but I like to test taboos and I have learned to love fingering, licking and fucking that taboo little dirty shit pipe.my wife and I practice rimming, digital anal stimulation and anal penetration regularly. It is highly pleasurable for both of us. I am uncircumcised and once I am fully inserted I do not require much lube. My skin just glides along my shaft and over my cock head. The only discomfort I feel is upon initial penetration when the asshole is tight and it will cause my foreskin to retract back and cause a little pain. I just pull out and reinsert and continue until the asshole is relaxed an little more and it allows me in. I love watching anal themed porn. I think the taboo placed on it has made anal or rimming or anything involving the asshole in film the ultimate act of submission a female can do for a dominant male porn stud. Female stars are allowing a well hung alpha type male yo place their thick, long cocks inside of the tightest fuckable oriface on the human body and fans absolutely love to see that occur. Women of my deepest fantasies in my younger years derived from anal porn.
Never analy. The ass is the last female body part where I would put my dick in contact to, epsecialy when there is a vagin just next to it. It has absolutely no sexual meaning to me whatsoever. It leaves me as cold as ice. I understand poeple can be very different from each others. I thought that anal was some gay stuff because that's the way they are used to do it. But I see here that most anal fans consider themselves as straight. I wonder what percentage of straight males like anal so much...
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Yeah, what's the big deal. Seems to me like some kind of religion. You believe in it or you don't. Me, I can live with it being there, but I can even live good without it.
