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aba1
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185 Posts
1/07
Posted - Oct 23 2007 : 5:37PM
In one of her recent posts, she insinuated that she was forced to perform certain acts on camera against her wishes.
In essence, she was claiming that she was "assaulted" on the set of De'bella and her young fellas.
No one seemed to follow up on it and I have not seen her in anything since then. In addition, I also saw something from Jewel saying they had patched things up. Any word on De'bella?
Cheers
aba1
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185 Posts
1/07
Posted - Oct 23 2007 : 5:41PM
Here is the post by De'bella on this forum that I am refering to:
Just see 'Debellas Young Fellas" and look at it objectively and closely and you will see what I have been talking about and what happened to me. That is one reason I left my husband of thirty years and agry at what some of the male talent and the director in that movie said they were going to do to me and I could not say "no" cause the camera was rolling and would not stop. I was served up on a silver platter.
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12/05
Posted - Oct 23 2007 : 7:21PM
I don't know the details but I find it sad that she wouldn't say "no" or "stop" simply because a camera is rolling. If they were dong something outside of her comfort zone, she should have spoken up and if they still proceeded... go ahead an throw the biggest fit a camera ever captured. At that point, it's called "evidence".
She should just got up and left.
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aba1
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185 Posts
1/07
Posted - Oct 23 2007 : 7:39PM
Obviously there is more to this. I agree with you though. If she felt she was being assaulted she could have simply left the set.
phatbasey
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1390 Posts
1/05
Posted - Oct 24 2007 : 12:25AM
I find this super confusing I watched the movie and yes it was rough but I did not see anything too crazy for "this" type of movie.
 
De_Bella
Member

77 Posts
6/06
Posted - Oct 29 2007 : 3:46AM
I will set the record straight: I tried to stop. I was chocked until i almost passed out on more than one occasion (out takes). I did not agree with some of the things that were done to me and could not stop it. If you ever were talent you know sometimes you cannot stop it. It was a total feeding frenzy with me as the bait. Futhermore, i should have been told that some of the male talent were either convicted felons, on parole, probation, or had a violent past before i agreed to this. Plus the pressure of being a full time employee in a different capacity at Red Light gave Juan Cuba a license to do what he wanted.
People who know me know I have never complained before.
And Yes Jewel and I are on excellant speaking terms now.
I have started my own State of California Licensed Talent agency now.
Kind Regards
Everett
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2088 Posts
6/05
Posted - Oct 29 2007 : 10:29PM
does this mean you're not going to be doing movies anymore?
Skykill
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408 Posts
6/05
Posted - Oct 30 2007 : 1:24AM
It sounds like she had issues with Cuba's direction but in the BTS she called him a great director. Whatever...
Got the DVD a couple of weeks ago only because De'Bella was in it. I had problems with it. She looked under siege for two hours. I thought it was good acting. Guess not.
De'Bella, if you're done as a performer, best of luck in your new endeavors.
LuckyBastard
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3/06
Posted - Oct 30 2007 : 11:17AM
"I have started my own State of California Licensed Talent agency now."
Any predictions on how this will work out?
De_Bella
Member

77 Posts
6/06
Posted - Oct 30 2007 : 12:33PM
Remember the BTS is done prior to the scene. Needless to say my opinion of CUBA changed after the scenes. Thanks everyone for the kind words and support.
I will continue to to g-g and solo on a scene by scene basis. I want to realy pursue the talent agency.
I did not think it mattered to anyone if I was going to continue to do scenes. In all of the MILF posting in The Forum lately they want to see pysuedo-milfs not real ones.
The whole definition of a MILF has gone by the road and anyone can be a milf even if they are 21 and never had a child or step-child.
My predications are for success for the talent agency, I hope that what everyone wants to see for me and the talent we represent.
Kind Regards
BigBobxxx
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2681 Posts
5/04
Posted - Oct 30 2007 : 9:05PM
Exactly!
Kay Parker was a MILF.
Vicky Vette is a MILF.
You're a MILF.
More than the need for having had children, I think a MILF needs to be a woman in her mid-30's, or older, who is still killer-hot.
In her day, I was whacking to Kay Parker... not the younger girls she was working with. IMHO, she was the hottest girl on the screen regardless of age.
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12/05
Posted - Oct 31 2007 : 12:22AM
In some circles, this is called rape.
I know the situation is different for female talent than it is for male talent, but I am both a producer and stunt cock and I have to disagree with you on that comment.
As a producer, I make sure every girl I work with knows that if she says "stop", then we stop... as in immediately. However, all my talent knows what's going to happen prior to the shoot so there's no surprises, but if she would ever feel uncomfortable, they know it can stop at any point.
aba1
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185 Posts
1/07
Posted - Oct 31 2007 : 2:03AM
Thanks for the update De' bella.
Actually I am one of those who appreciates a "true" MILF. I thought you had come in to your own as a performer and I am disappointed that you have decided to retire from doing b/g scenes. Hopefully you will reconsider.
P.S- One thing that came across in all your scenes was your utter dislike of cum. It was very obvious that you had a very hard time swallowing. I dont think I have seen any flick where you were able to mask it. Was this also a problem in that you were forced to swallow lots of cum as well as rcv a cum fart in your last movie?
Cheers.
aba1
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185 Posts
1/07
Posted - Oct 31 2007 : 2:06AM
Also is it a coincidence that you are now in good terms with Jewel after "retiring" from porn?
De_Bella
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77 Posts
6/06
Posted - Oct 31 2007 : 2:15AM
That's what is so great about this country and this forum everyone is entitled to their opinion. But you would of had to been on the set to feel and see what happened. Monday morning quarter-backing is always the best seat in the house. So I will leave it at that. I applaud you and your integrity but everyone does not have it.
This industry need a huge douche. The good people should not have to leave the business or get scared into doing things to work to make a living. The scum as you put it needs to be identified and dealt with and removed from the industry. To sit back an accept it is not the answer. Its a matter of time with all of the governmental agencies in southern california and south florida putting the industry under a microscope now, the dirty ones will get weeded out.
This is a wonderful business and I have met some real professionals and good people. No one will run me out of it. What is so bad about us as industry setting some professional standards for ourselves and monitoring ourselves.
I will provide the best representation I can and wont allow myself to get caught up in the tidal wave of crud.
Finally, my business partner and i were at a recent meeting about the industry and a comment was made by a director "why do they (government)want to criminalize porn" My business partner replied "quit bringing criminals into the industry and making them the stars and directors" What a concept. Kind'a like "bringing potato salad to a ant mound and complaining about the ants".
Kind Regards De'Bella
 
aba1
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185 Posts
1/07
Posted - Oct 31 2007 : 2:26AM
Thanks for your insight. You seem like a genuine good person. I noticed you avoided some of my queries but I understand certain things are private.
Good luck and all the best.
De_Bella
Member

77 Posts
6/06
Posted - Oct 31 2007 : 2:29AM
Jewel and my reconciliation had nothing to do with the porn. It was a family matter that was resolved once I decided to get a divorce and move away from my ex-husband.
I am a different person now. I am more assertive and driven than I was before. My boyfriend and business partner dialed me into a lot of things that were not good for me and people that were taking advantage of my submissive personality.
I'm sure she saw the drastic change for the better and it opened a door to get back together as a family minus the ex-husband.
A I mentioned earlier if the opportunity came along for the right g-g or solo scene I might consider it.
Kind regards De'Bella
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Posted - Oct 31 2007 : 7:37AM
Thanks for the reply... it was well written. I agree with your thoughts and hopefully you or your girls will never have to experience that sort of situation again. Like I said, there are genuinely good people in this business... and I hope you have the opportunity to work with all of them.
All I can say is I'm happy that I'm on the other coast. The hustle and bustle of the LA porn scene just doesn't seem right for me. I like being tucked away over here where I get to play porn producer but don't need to be in the middle of the shit.
Again, best of luck to you and your new business.
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RandomPrecision
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Posted - Oct 31 2007 : 7:46AM
Hello. First of all, as someone who likes rougher porn, I'd like to express my disgust with directors who aren't upfront about it when they hire the girls. There's no reason why they can't tell you upfront exactly what kind of scene it's going to be and who you'll be working with. As I guess you know, there are actually some girls who like it rough and I don't have a problem with that. I DO have a problem with girls being ambushed in the fashion in which you described. I haven't seen the movie in question so I'll just have to take your word for it.
Secondly, make no mistake. The current government really does want to criminalize porn and it has nothing at all to do with who makes it or what is portrayed. They are working on behalf of radical religious wingnuts who hate all porn and everything it stands for. They don't care if it's the hardest of hardcore or just simple softcore shots of a nude model. They really do want it all gone.
Of course, stuff like you described obviously doesn't help the industry. Porn's enemies will certainly use those kinds of stories to their advantage if they possibly can. They'll use whatever they can get.
With respect to MILFs, I completely agree with you. A MILF should be at least 30, I think. I don't think there is any shortage of men who are very attracted to older women. IT just needs to be presented in a more mature fashion. The people who value mature women also expect a higher level of maturity in the way the productions are made and the male talent. IOW, you can't just take a MILF and plop her down in what would otherwise be a teeny bopper movie with all of the ridiculous circus stuff that goes on. Older women have a lot more experience and really know what they're doing. I wish everyone would take the time to watch just one good MILF scene. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, they seem to be rare.
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Posted - Oct 31 2007 : 1:26PM
Yes, it does. Glad to read that you and Jewel have reconciled. Let Jewel know we miss her around here!
Everett
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Posted - Oct 31 2007 : 5:33PM
+1 ...and also De'Bella your b/g flicks are now going to be collectors classics and we'll have to go and grab em all up.
De_Bella
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77 Posts
6/06
Posted - Nov 3 2007 : 8:53PM
you can find those autographed copies at clubdebella.com
Thanks everyone De'Bella
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Posted - Dec 12 2009 : 11:53PM
Yea, what's up with De'bella anyhow?
WarChild
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9/04
Posted - Feb 23 2010 : 5:55PM
I couldn't find her talent agency online, so I'm guess that's a no go. Also, her clubdebella.com doesn't appear to work, so I would assume(which I hate to do) that she has nothing to do with the biz anymore. If I'm wrong please let me know!
Canyonfan
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9/11
Posted - Aug 15 2014 : 9:47AM
Whatever happened to De'bella???



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