I hate to be the champion of all things perverted/degrading, but, I have a story that may be of interest.
On a recent shoot that required rimming (I myself am a closet rimming junkie) I asked the guys to please wash their backsides before Julie Night took a dive. She turned to me in disgust and exclaimed, "why do you want them to wash their asses, it takes all the fun out of it."
I have encountered countless girls in this business who truly enjoy the art of eating ass. Call it depraved, call it what you will, but please don't reduce the motivation to being solely financially driven. I can't speak for all the girls who rim in porn, but, I can certainly speak for a substantial percentage. If you need me to name names, I'm sure they wouldn't mind.
While I always appreciate concern for the way in which the women are treated in porn, sometimes there's more than meets the eye. The brown eye that is. ;)
This thread certainly generated a lot of debate! My earlier post was too strident, when I commented that rimming scenes were a waste of video/dvd space; of course one of the first priciples of porn is TO EACH HIS(HER) OWN -- if others like this kind of action, no problem with me.
DreamWeaver's post led me to realize why I reacted so sharply at first ... is that I don't care to see male rimming, but it is in every one of the scenes in the Anabolic "Oral Consumption" titles ... and this is their only oral series. I would otherwise consider this series to be just about perfect for my tastes if it didn't have the rimming and toe sucking. So I let my frustration express itself too assertively, I now realize.
It is interesting to see that mine was not the only spirited response!
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PornBoy Deactivated User
642 Posts 2/00
Posted - Sep 23 2003 : 2:57PM
BTW, I can't believe people would actually take the time a write an email about Asseaters Unanimous. It may be true but its just seems funny somebody would do it. I think it would go something like this:
Dear Tom,
I am a 35 year old manager at Hardees. I don't have a lot of luck with the ladies and I have a slight weight problem. However, since you released Asseaters Unanimous I have not left my bedroom in my parent's basement. Gorgeous women eating man ass is the highlight of my day now. I just wanted to thank you.
Well if we are going to see women getting rimmed so frequently, why shouldn't we see men getting rimmed? Sometimes I get tired of just seeing female assholes and want to see the guys too. It's an equality thing. Just like I expect a man to go down on a woman if she is going to go down on him, I expect rimming to be reciprocal too, although it is not something I am personally into, on film it should be equal. There are some guys who rarely show their assholes and I feel some of them should.
Tom I'm a member of Selena Silver's yahoo club.I ask her if she would do a scene in asseaters #2 with another girl and her response was "oh hell yes" said she would love to.IF you could get a black girl to preform with her that would be great.oh yeah and while I'm fantasizing could you let the girls rim each other sum? preferably while doing a2m on the stud screwing them?
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*Mutt* Deactivated User
752 Posts 8/03
Posted - Sep 24 2003 : 9:17PM
I dislike so much of the extreme shit going on in porn today. but on the chicks rimming the guys, i dig it, it's nasty in a good way. Now if the girl is forced physically, dude pushes her head down there that is NOT hot. Tom used a word that is a beauty, WANTON, a woman totally without any inhibitions in bed, she wants to please her man, wants to devour him whole, she loves sex and men so much she wants, even needs maybe, to breathe in and kiss the most foul and taboo of body parts. She doesn't care if the rest of the world regards a woman who would do that as a whore and a pig, she lives in the moment and does what her most basic animal instincts tell her to do. THAT IS FUCKING HOT!!!
Let women be themselves, if society wouldn't impose these boundaries on people, women especially, every woman would be as filthy in mind and in action as us men. Nobody would have to coerce them to do anything.
Now hiring one of these 18 year old L.A. porn girls and 'forcing' her to do something she most likely does not want to do, that isn't hot to me. She's gotta WANT to do it for me to get off on that.
I like rimming but I like to see girls being rim by the guy. ...I have nothing against guy's asses. Actually Tom has a cute little ass but I still like the girl's better. Is that normal? ..Why no porn producer pay no attention to that kink?
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AlexPanzer Deactivated User
1593 Posts 6/03
Posted - Sep 24 2003 : 11:04PM
Personaly I really support the rimjobs and double everything (anal/vaginal and other douple pokings). I think that its extreme and theres nothing wrong with it. Many people say that it is gay, I think its not. When a girl get fucked by a couple of guys, a guy is not a main subject, the girl is, she is getting fucked. The main purpose is not to rub a dick against another dude, the purpuse is to "fill the hole" with as many dicks as possible and use them.
When I watch a scene and a guy gets rimmed, I dont concentrate on that guy, I concentrate on a girl, to see how she performs one of the most extreme excercises in porn which is rimming a guy with an unpleasant ass. When I watch that I dont think of the girl as a ultra-whore or a pig, I think of her as an extreme girl that knows how to please her partner.
I dont really understand why a rimjob on a guy when a girl does it considers as a gay thing. Theres a girl and a guy, how come that is gay?
The sexually insatiable woman; driven only by her boundless carnal desire; angel of my everlasting wetdream. Hell yes that is hot! In fact, I'll go out on a limb and say it's MUTHER FUGGIN HOT! Sadly, almost nothing I've seen fails to even remotely convey this sort of heat (if you have a title that does, I'm all ears.)
I'd guess there are two reasons for this:
1) The above mentioned heat does not actually exist in the scene (she just needs the money) and the filmmakers lack the craft to convincingly conjure it.
2) The scene overflows with said heat (the horny slut can't get enough!) but the filmmakers lack the craft to capture it on film (okay, tape) for our enjoyment.
Too many PD150s. Too many young girls who only goal in life it to become "famous" (or escape the grinding poverty of their home country.) Too many producers with calloused hearts. Too many strokers with calloused palms.
Rim Jobs feel great. Blow Jobs feel great. While watching porn, I like watching both. Thank you Tom Byron!
For all of those guys that posted on here who say they are turned off by Rim Jobs but jack off to Blow Jobs, where is the difference? What turns you on by a close up shot of a girl giving a guy a blow job? Do you get off look at the cock while she is sucking? During a prolonged suck session, mostly you can only see the cock and her mouth, right? Why doesn't a Blow Job scene turn you off with all of that cock on the screen, with you looking at it. You don't like cock, right?
When I see I girl giving a guy a Rim Job, I fantasize that she is doing it to me. My mind is more on what she is doing, rather that the guy's hole.
For all the naysayers, I'm just thinking that there must be something very forbidden about the male asshole.
Personally, I don't think alot of guys have had this done to them, so that affects their ability to fantasize about the act. That may be why they don't like it.
I have had it done. It feels damn good. When I see it in a film, I can understand the pleasurable sensation. I especially like it in a film where it is reciprocal.
There are few acts I enjoy more than sticking my tongue up a girls ass while playing with her pussy. It usually gets such a great reaction.
I have to say I saw Ass Eaters the other night at the smut shop, and after the initial "ooo another EE release" and I really looked at it, I put it back on the shelf and bought a John Leslie Comp instead. The act just doesn't do it for me.
But that's just the thing as I see it - Tommy has produced the rimming-themed DVD, it says proudly what it is, and I as a pornsumer who's not into it just bought something else instead. No harm done to me, I still live, I still walk, talk and bullshit on the net.
For some guy who'll come along after me and buy it because that's what he's into, well he'll likely be a happy pappy.
Tom, I applaud you for making this line, and being upfront about what it contains. I'll never buy one myself, but it doesn't hurt me in the slightest since I'll never accidently buy one. I will however continue to buy your other releases that appeal to me (along with, well, whatever else I like and can afford by whoever else I like )
I don't like the EE packaging however, while it's very flashy, it's not durable at all and the cardboard of my Meat Pushin' cover is already warped despite minimal handling by myself. Also Paper slipcaes for DVDs (the second discs) are a bad thing
cheers,
scipio
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1223 Posts 9/03
Posted - Sep 27 2003 : 4:35PM
I've only seen one girl to guy rim job, and that was Cheyanne doing it to Mr. Marcus in Bring Um Young 2. I have to admit I was quite surprised and taken aback at the prospect that a pretty girl would even want to stick her face up a guy's hairy arse. But as to my opinion on the subject, er...I guess I'm not one way or the other. All I can say is, I don't think I could let my partner do the same thing to me. I've got way too much consideration for her, especially seeing that I suffer from gas a lot!
Those who doesn't like ass-hole rimming should fast-forward. The same with girl-girl, girl giving blow job, ass-fucking, etc. That's what the fast-forward button is made for. FAST-FORWARD.
I suppose for some people there may be. It may be a fear of gay sex or homosexuality. I don't mind seeing a male asshole once in a while if the guy is cute or good-looking. In fact if he is cute or good-looking I would prefer to see his asshole over that of an ugly guy. I have always wanted to see Lexington Steele's asshole, but I have never seen it in a vid yet. If we are going to see so many female assholes we should see a few male assholes too.
It's funny, I haven't seen Tom around in ages... but the second a rim-job thread is made he comes out of nowhere. hehe
I don't like watching a guy get rimmed, but it's not because I think it's gay or anything. I know how great it feels to have a chick tounge your a-hole... there's nothing gay about it.
But it's not exactly pleasing to the eye (as a viewer) to see a guy spread his legs in missionary position while he gets eaten out. Rocco used to always do this and it pissed me off.
I looove seeing a chicks ass get rimmed though. But that's something else ;)
Seeing guy's bungholes is not an issue for me, I just don't want to watch the licking of assholes for the same reason I don't like seeing ATM or ATOGM etc. I'll avoid the rimming DVD just the same as I avoid the ones that "feature" ATM in every scene, or drinking cum out of assholes, wineglasses, etc etc. If people like any given one (or two, three, all) of those acts, then good for them, go for your life, but I just don't care to watch it myself.
I think there's some weird things happening in regard to fear of gay sex where looking at a guy's asshole getting licked is concerned, yet with the popularity of all of the anal-themed DVDs, not to mention DPs and now all the DAP and DPP stuff around..
For me it's simply if it's a whole DVD themed full of stuff I don't like, I simply won't buy it. If it's one scene with a minor annoyance, as dirty_flea said, I'll FF through it. If it's something that really grosses me out, (cum drinking from asshole, Ron Jeremy scenes, etc) I'll avoid buying it.
Try it gentlemen, you will like it. I have never met a man who doesn't like a good rim job. Pretend you are the guy getting rimmed, and lie back and enjoy.
I am with Tom, I like it because I know how great it feels. I was lucky enough to havee a woman to give me the rim treatment a few times. Not quite as lucky as Tom though. He's had miles of lady tongue traffic run between his cheecks.
I have no issue with this being in porn, even as a guy, I think it is pretty damn hot! I have not been on the receiving end myself, maybe one day it will happen, but meanwhile I love to rim my wife! :)
it feels great in real life - i usually ff during porn though. ill check it out next time it comes up & not ff - ill be checking out the chick though obviously! lol
Just thought i'd add something here. I don't mind rimming by a woman to a man as long as I don't have to see his hairy ass. As long as I "get" the idea of what she's doing, it's just fine with me. Closeups are a big no-no to me, I find that disgusting. It's rare to find a scene like this, but it can be hot. It just shows off how nasty she can be. It's all in the camera angle really. I first saw this in some Japanese Bukkake movie and was turned on by it, but I didn't have to see the guy's ass. It's just a fantasy, the idea of it. BTW I'm 100% straight and even the sight of seeing two men even kiss makes me cringe. Please don't tell me that makes me homophobic!
Here is what's also funny..women doing men with strap-ons I do not like at all. Ok, it's not "gay", but maybe the closest you can get :)
I hate to admit it but I've even seen some women anally fist men. I don't see any closeups and it's ok. Same goes for closeups of the guy's face. Don't laugh but the first time I saw this sort of thing I thought the receiver was a woman..seriously! No body hair and she/it was even wearing panties. Sick huh? Then I was disgusted to find out it was a trann. Not my sort of thing. I could easily fool myself into thinking that it was a woman.
I've seen Tom's series of rimming titles. I'm glad that someone actually decided to reach such a thing. I won't comment on the movies, but will say some of it is quite good, but some of it I didn't like, no big deal. With me, it's all in the camera angles. No, I don't usually jerk off to some dude getting rimmed.
You know, a few years ago some people might have thought it was gay to watch a man get his dick sucked. "dude, you're looking at some guy's dick!" Yeah, whatever. I'm sure you don't sit there looking and jerking off to the idea of some guy's dick. It's the idea of some woman sucking it isn't it? I sure hope so.
Doesn't really matter to me if it's the guy or girl getting a rim job. If she is doing the licking, then fine, if she's getting her ass licked then fine. It's all good. Just my opinion.
i dont think that male ass rimming should be kept to just anal ass licking movies. If enough notice is made about it, say on the dvd case or in the reviews, then that should be enough for the people that dont want to see this sort of thing steer clear of it.
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158 Posts 5/05
Posted - Jun 23 2005 : 11:23AM
Tom B,
You and your movies are awesome and I've blown countless loads while watching you get wantonly rimmed. (The most memorable being Alisha Klass. Wow.) I used to wonder why I never saw this act getting performed in movies, and then when I discovered your earlier lines when it would seem to happen spontaniously, I became an instant fan. I think my next twenty rentals were Lords and Whack Attack movies.
That said, I am NOT a huge fan of the ASSEATERS ANONYMOUS line for one reason only... I generally don't like films dedicated to any specific, singular act. For me, the hottest thing is porn (and actual sex) is the ELEMENT OF SURPRISE. Nothing can compare to this.
This is why I love I fell in love with the Whack Attack movies.
This is why I am now addicted to Mason's films.
(Mason: Example, When Kim and Katrina exchanged "I love you's" in RS2 in the middle of that amazing scene, it was one of the hottest things I have ever seen in porn, and the only thing on screen at the time was faces. You made one head spin and the other head explode!)
I wish more filmmakers, talent, etc. understood the eroticism of the unexpected as well as Mason, Tom, Silvera and Tanya Hyde.
Amen. But forget about lying back and enjoying it. There's nothing as good as a "rusty trombone" (guy standing while getting rimmed and simultaneously getting handjob).
"It's unfortunate what we find pleasing to the touch and pleasing to the eye is seldom the same."
We've had this discussion about a variety of different sex acts, etc. at ADT ad naseum. It really does get old after a while.
It all comes down to personal preference. But just because I don't like to see something, doesn't mean it shouldn't be done. I don't enjoy seeing rimjobs in movies, either, but I don't think they don't have their place in porn for men who do enjoy seeing it nor do I think it makes one homosexual. I enjoy receiving a good rimming myself but not watching another man get one. Simple as that.
And the whole transference rule ("put yourself in the fantasy and pretend you're the guy getting rimmed or fucking that girl") doesn't always work. Not everyone watches porn that way. Sometimes it doesn't have to be about the viewer pretending they're doing what's onscreen. Some people are voyeurs and get off watching other people have sex; they don't have to be part of it. Sometimes one might just want to watch a dick being sucked, not be blown themselves.
Edited by - Crucifixio_Jones on 6/26/2005 4:45:34 PM
