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Think about the things you enjoy about porn... now consider the fact that a lot of people that will give you the "you should get help" lecture for liking them.

Yeah, you know at first I wasent sure if I was going to write that.But the day porn is all about violence and hate, I`m out of it.I seriously dont get that.To me its all about the pleasure.Anyway, I`m now going to catch up reading the other thread you gave me, thanks.

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Anyways, yeah, I've seen the newest Meatholes episode and yes it is pretty harsh. Not so much physically, but mentally Khan Tusion really does a number on her making her breakdown a few times. I found it a bit disturbing (yet I could not stoping watching it)and there's no way I could jerk off to this (yet I did anyway), but the more I thought about it the more I realized how dumb and degenerate that broad must be to willingly participate in such a scene without knowing what it involves and/or not walking off the set when it became too much for her.

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And, wow, so you blame the victim for what was done to her? Surprise surprise...

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If you don't understand the nature of a coercive and desperate situation, then you have a blessed and fortunate life, and should be very thankful for your privileged life. Being judgemental of these girls is uncharitable.

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I'm a fan of aggressive and sometimes rough sex but I could do without the over the top verbal abuse and shoe to the face and pussy antics that these guys seem to employ far too often. All I know is,if a guy sticks a shoe anywhere near my private area, I'm kicking him in the nuts. As for spitting in the face, that stuff needs to stop too, it's not just degrading, it's disgusting.

You know, I don't mind being called a slut when I fuck, or even being treated like a whore sometimes when I'm with the right person.(There has to be that level of trust and communication present, never with a stranger, that's for sure.) But some of the stuff I see on some of these sites is ridiculous. That being said, I'm not one to judge who enjoys what. We all have our demons and far be it from me to lay down the law on those I don't personally know.

I think most of us would concur that while we don't mind some of the rough stuff, we could stand to lose some of the shock value shenanigans.Spitting on the face? Sticking your nasty ass foot in the girl's mouth? Calling her a piece of shit whore while you slap her face? Come on! My main goal when I watch porn is to get turned on and be entertained. Sometimes that means I'll laugh and sometimes that means I'll cringe. And sometimes... well there's this stuff and I don't even know what else there is to say. To each their own I guess.

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Edited by - Pericles on 2/21/2005 7:12:09 PM

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the less they are acknowledged, the less consumers will check out their product, the less they will be inclined to create similar product. thus, the best boycott is one of silence.

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On another note, his vibe isn't for me. Although he sometimes managed to capture some really cool moments, his need to authentically degrade the girls just got to be too much. It made me feel like a complete waste of a man just watching it.

To each his own and all that. ::shrug::

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On the side of human rights, she did draw the line at anal.

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From the very beginning when - I'll admit I was ignorant enough to say I'd agree with your opinionated words of Kahn, based on accusations/assumptions of Kahn Tusion couldn't be backed up with conrete evidence.

Have any of you spoke to Kahn Tusion personally? No. I didn't think so. Let me ask you this... have you seen my scene? If not, watch it and then tell me you can't believe I did it. And then watch the rest of them for your viewing pleasure. Go ahead, make a shallow comment about how you can’t believe a whore like myself would enter a situation like meatholes. Make me laugh, go ahead.

There are certain paranoid women in this industry whether they're drugged up or just like that because of bad gossip being spread place to place in this industry. Gossip is everywhere, just like the fact that everyone seemed to believe that Taylor Rain and Fayner were actually married. Why don't you people back up your opinions with something credible? So that they make sense for the sake of my sanity.

Prior to doing my meatholes scene I was at the office about to do piss mops, fortunate enough to have a mature adult conversation with Kahn Tusion for nearly an hour. The man isn't a monster. His true identity is not Kahn Tusion.

Do you realize the gossip you hear from others and what you watch on meatholes is obviously going to give you a bad vibe. But things in life go deeper than that...

...prior to a meatholes scene you are questioned what is allowed and not allowed by specific questions. This is filmed for legal purposes. When a girl says "I guess" is not a yes or no answer. To which would be more-so considered a “no” if she's not sure. Yet discussed to fully awareness of what the scene is all about. Plain and simple.

Next, during the scene if the female talent can no longer endure any of the spanking, choking, spitting, fucking that she agreed with she is advised to say STOP and nothing else. So everyone including male talent know better when to refrain.

Meatholes may hold contraversy but the idea is to reveal the true self by asking questions that require truthful answers. For most women in this industry, answering questions truthfully can be painful at the sametime and also may result in emotion for whatever reason it may be. Some others may not be as sensitive. But then again you're not obligated to answer the question either. Be truthful or don’t say anything at all. After all we don’t want to listen to bullshit, right? RIGHT!

Now, you can't seriously believe that every single female out there enjoys and only enjoys magic-making sex, making love, passion, romance all the time. There's people out there with different preferences, there's people out there with certain fetishes where many may not find interest in nor agree with. But to each his own. Bitching about it, protesting isn't going to keep that person from still having that desire of ... a foot fetish, a piss fetish, whatever. You get the picture.

I personally, during the last few years of my industry career and sex life, have grown a liking to rough sex. I love being man-handled. But I also like to be rough in return. Watch my meatholes scene, I'm fiesty, I'm brutally honest. I ask to get fucked more and harder. You can see intensity in my reaction. But then again I don't do a scene to act everything out either. I go with my bad self, take having sex for granted. Make it out for what it's worth.

I'll also admit the chemistry between Johnny Thrust, Kahn Tusion and I was fucking awesome. I didn't want to stop. Did you see Kahn use a belt like he usually does? No. I told him not to, to not be a pussy and use his bare hands. Fuck toys, use what you got. That's how I like it. And he respected that.

Like I said, Kahn Tusion isn't a monster. He's a highly intelligent person, a person I can hold a good talk with, someone I've learned a bit from in a positive manner, he's successful, wise and from time to time will make criticism to himself. Out of fun perhaps even in ways to make himself stronger as a person.

He's just as human as anyone else, with feelings. He's not cold hearted. When in act of a meatholes scene, he places himself as a certain character to open up whats within the minds & memories of all these women. I don’t see that any worse than a cold hearted man or woman in everyday civilian life meeting a girl and doing anything in his power to nail her and take advantage of her with no true intentions of anything more than just that. That’s reality that occurs on a daily basis. Is that a pleasant ideal scenario for all you people? No, in a community of who claims to have a standard of morals would assume that’s bad. And in my opinion its far worse than whats captured on meatholes.com where you have women open, willing to do everything they agree to do on film with Kahn.

If half of these girls didn't force themselves to be tough, didn't force themselves to have sex for money, didn't fuck their lives up with loser people, drugs, alcohol, abuse... maybe they'd actually enjoy the sex they do to make money. Maybe they won't be in such a hurry and not give a fuck. Maybe they wouldn't be mean ruthless bitches and maybe, JUST MAYBE they'd be smart with their decisions in the industry to accomodate with who they are and what they like!!

I don’t have much to say about Taryn’s scene because if it were really that bad for her she could have said STOP, got up and walked away and asked to not continue. Simple as that. Whether the unfinished business would be posted on the site or not is meat cashs concern but it’s a choice she can make if she realized it wasn’t her cup of tea. I don’t need to explain any further its obvious enough already what the meathole deal is and if any of you are smart enough you’ll understand.

I don't know about anyone else, nor do I really care but I felt it very necessary to give you a description and explanation clear enough for you to understand my side of things with meatholes. You know, someone who was literally there. Thanks for listening. Anything else you want to bitch about?

- Gen Padova -

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This scene wasn't a surprise to Taryn (MeatHoles girl). Khan interviews each girl who wants to do a scene to make sure they're up to it. They show the girls videos from previous shoots to make sure the girls knows what it's about and what happens. And they talk through her "don't" rules, just like for any other porn shoot.

So, after knowing what she's getting into she decides to do it.

Khan's schtick is the psychological side: when it works the insertion of cock into hole that is end of the matter for most porn is just a supporting element in the MeatHoles mind-game. A lot of people don't like the psychological aspect of porn, largely, I suspect, because it makes them examine themselves , what they like to watch, and why, or they don't want to face the uncomfortable realities about some girls who perform in porn.

Finally, there are some girls who've stated they enjoyed their MeatHoles shoot. Gen Padova says she did, and I think Kami did too.

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Why is everyone so damned uptight?

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It's cool Gen jumped in to respond. I'm just curious about whatever this latest outrage constitutes. I

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"ignorant ...retards..."

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That's different for sure !!!

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Oh, and bye simp.

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Ok, I just have to say it; such comments scares me.I just had to say it.No offence.Call me a softie, hippie or whatever.I dont care.I just have another opinion and belief in what porno should be all about.

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I love the fact that chicks agree to let themselves be degraded.

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I mean it doesn't seem like we get anywhere when we talk about things like this. The subject just makes the participants angry with each other (for no good reason, I might add), and makes the readers just wonder why the heck they hang around a place that has this much contentious discussion about topics that, ultimately, none of us have any direct influence over because when it comes down to it, no one's really listening anyway.

Is it just me? I'm asking. Seriously?

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I didn't watch any of the stuff discussed here and in the other thread but after reading only a few of these posts I know I don't have to watch it to make up my mind, I'm already disgusted.

Porn that I can enjoy has to be erotic, and the girls must like or at least not have negative feelings about what they do, or not do it at all.
Don't get me wrong, I can enjoy something like Feeding Frenzy from time to time, even cum swallowing can be erotic somehow but if the girl hates it I'm out.
On the other hand a girl can enjoy licking men's assholes like Tiana Lynn in "Cum rain cum shine" Scene 3, but I don't think this is an erotic act, so I'm out again. (Otherwise that scene would be near perfect for me.)

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I suppose with the site in question, dedicated followers may know all the background alluded to in earlier posts about the process of bringing a performer to the performance, but I guess that a more casual visitor without the benefit of that information may well have concerns and draw different conclusions.

MLyons -- in response to your question "Am I the only one who reads threads like this and feels stressed out?"

Well I used to get a little agitated, but not so much anymore. I think that people feel the need to discuss their relationship and reaction to what they see and in this case what turns them on and off. In a way I see that as healthy even in the discussion lapses into the old "each to their own" comments and big blanket statements. If nothing else it demonstrates that difference in opinion exists which might be illuminating to some?

I know how you feel though because it can seem that these things have been discussed ad nauseum or that the conversation very readily plummets into name calling. I sometimes have questions I'd genuinely like an opinion on about the nature of some sites but I usually refrain from asking them because I don't have the energy for the "discussion". I'm getting old.

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Edited by - Pericles on 2/23/2005 6:05:39 PM

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It's impossible to 'contribute' when the thread is locked and you are banned. Which is what usually happens to the 'few' you refer to.

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You're just trolling, anyway, Pericles, so I don't particularly care what you think. My question was for those who actually like ADT. :)

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Joke.

Truthfully, I am more often bored than shocked, because what once was cutting edge more often than not is revved-up shtick. And on occasion when Khan and his boys achieve the elusive "deer-in-the headlights" effect on some clueless innocent looking to supplement her unemployment check from Starbucks, it's as much a turn-on as it is a woodkiller (literally, I've just given up when it turns pure Freudian psychodrama -- I live in New York, I can get that on the street for free; hell, I have to turn my music up LOUD to shut it out). But, once in a while, there's a scene that really hits it.

Overall, I guess I'd rather watch Manuel or Steve Holmes run these circles around the new girls -- there's some actual chemistry.
I also enjoy what Mason can pull off with the right performers. And Joey. I love edgy sex scenes. I just think when "edge" becomes the capital TM-trademark you in fact render it just another commodity, like Starbucks (which. to be fair, is probably just as degrading as a gig with Khan Tusion, but doesn't pay remotely as well).

I do love it when the girls strike back.

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