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PornStarNamedBuckNaked All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Sep 10 2010 : 3:02PM
^ ignore him Blossom. You are BEAUTIFUL!!
screwcap
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Posted - Sep 10 2010 : 6:01PM
I think the premise with these vids is that these girls have just passed their majority.
Hopefully, the buying public is estute enough to realize
many of these gals are well beyond that threshold.
Another case of buying the box cover/title. OH, I'm 18....yeah
and Santa Clause is doing body double work as Mandingo.
Edited by - screwcap on 9/10/2010 6:02:20 PM
Draxxx
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Posted - Sep 11 2010 : 1:55PM
What's the point of starting a thread asking who has objections to BL porn and then getting bent out of shape when people explain why they don't like it? If a person doesn't like it or isn't into it it doesn't matter if it's legal or if it's been around for a long time or if it sells well. I personally don't care about any of that. I'm not saying it should go away. I'm not saying it's illegal. I'm not saying people don't have a right to watch and enjoy it. I'm just saying I think it's creepy. I'm not even saying all of it is creepy. I'm saying the ones that really push the "little girls" angle are creepy.
The movies where the "teens" are wearing short dresses/pants and sneakers and aren't wearing much make-up and the girls look and act like a typical 18 year old are okay with me and I'll occassionally watch those. It's the stuff with the socks, and pig tails, little girl dresses and talking like a little girl stuff like Max Hardcore and a few others do that I find creepy.
My opinion...like I thought the title of this thread was asking for.
charn
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Posted - Sep 12 2010 : 11:58PM
I object to the restriction of pigtails to teen porn. It's a practical and attractive hairstyle for most ages.
 
RandomPrecision
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Posted - Sep 13 2010 : 2:59AM
IMO, Max was too mechanized to be creepy. It was quite obviously just a formula. It might have been an offensive formula but in my opinion, Max created it to be offensive and creepy and then just ran off a thousand copies of it.
RandomPrecision
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Posted - Sep 13 2010 : 3:01AM
Personally, I prefer ponytails.
Pushkaa
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Posted - Sep 13 2010 : 6:09PM
^Both have their advantages.
Pigtails work for the two handed grip but a high ponytail is best for subtle guidance
ZeroCool007
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Posted - Sep 13 2010 : 6:21PM
lol that's some good advice...
Draxxx
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Posted - Sep 13 2010 : 7:51PM
Yeah, it's a formula but I don't think he's intentionally going for creepy, he's supplying senarios for people who like that stuff and some of the people who aren't into might find it creepy. I'm pretty sure Max or any of the people who make the kinda stuff we're talking about sit don't sit around and think to themselves "How can I make this creepy....", it just ends up being creepy for non-fans.
ZeroCool007
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Posted - Sep 13 2010 : 9:35PM
true, but then again, Max or other BL type directors might also purposely try to push the envelope to see how far they can go...to me, that makes for good viewing...
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Sep 14 2010 : 3:03AM
Totally, it wasn't inadvertent, the 'shock factor' was all part of the schtick with Max.
Jamie Gardner
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Posted - Oct 26 2010 : 2:30AM
One of my jobs is working at a video store. I had a customer want credit because he morally objected to Solitary Man (starring Michael Douglas). He said that no one told him the movie was about a pedophile. I at first didn't realize what he was talking about. The guy referred to Michael Douglas's character as a pervert because he's a man in his 60s having sex with a 19 year woman. I mentioned that Hugh Hefner does the same thing and he responded by saying he does not watch his TV series. No one else returning the movie has had this response. After the guy left, I thought of Vertigo and Picnic. In both of these movies, Kim Novak is in her early 20s. In Picnic, William Holden is 37 years old. In Vertigo, Jimmy Stewart is about 50 years old. Another example is Commander Cain (Lloyd Bridges) on the original Battlestar Galactica. It is mentioned that one of Starbuck's girlfriends had a relationship with Commander Cain in the past. Lloyd Bridges was 65 years old and the actress was in her 20s.
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raybbaby
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Posted - Oct 26 2010 : 1:23PM
^ Dude, there's a man that knows his Battlestar Galactica.
Fergus
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Posted - Oct 27 2010 : 12:08PM
I dislike Barely Legal porn, more so when a performer pretends to be a child.
But yeah, I dislike it even when it's just 'Barely Legal'. Why? Because the fetish is sex with someone as close as possible to being underage. The point of it is certainly not legalness, it's underageness. That's what people are seeking when they prefer this type of material. The lowest legal age is 18 so that's what they get. If the lowest legal age was 16 they'd get that.
To me there's little extrapolation needed to suggest that some would really quite like sex with a 15 year old if they were sure they wouldn't go to jail or maybe a 14 year old, or perhaps a 13 or 12 year old.
One of the hallmarks of a child molester is their lack of empathy for their victims. They might feel some, but not much. What they commonly are concerned about if first confronted by non law enforcement is stuff like "Don't tell my wife", "I'll lose my job", "I can't go to jail, I'd never survive" and other worries focused on themselves.
'Barely Legal' suggests the same mindset - sex with the youngest you can get away with, sex with the youngest you won't go to jail for, sex with the youngest that won't cause you too much hassle.
I'm not talking about 18-20 yr old guys here. If I was still that age I'm sure I'd fantasise about the cheerleaders, although I'd also be fantasising about women a bit more worldly too. But if you're 35 and keen on 'Barely Legal' I recommend you take Socrates' advice and examine your life carefully.
I'm not much into censorship. I'm not saying it should be banned. I don't like it so I don't watch it. But I also find it generally creepy, and if I knew a 35 year old who did specifically like 'Barely Legal' porn I would be untrusting of them around girls who were not yet legal.
 
Cody McLarge
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Posted - Oct 28 2010 : 4:36AM
^I'm in my mid-20s and the greatest time of my life was my junior and senior of college when I was 20 and 21. The girls I had sex with then (18 and 19 y/o freshman) were perfect so I happen to prefer 18 and 19 y/o not at all because it's "edgy" due it's legality.
RandomPrecision
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Posted - Oct 28 2010 : 6:04AM
That's funny. I'm 37 and have no shame in saying an 18 year old will get me going as easily as any other woman. She's legal so that's all that matters.
Some of the BL porn DOES venture into territory that can only lead to problems. But generally, as long as they're not specifically pretending to be children, I don't see anything to make any fuss over. Dirty old men have been lusting after young women forever. And to some degree, you're correct. They generally will go as young as the law will allow. But the point you're missing is most people obey the law and the law is generally set by consensus. Maybe the age of consent will go even higher (perhaps to 21) at some point but until it does, you can't really point your finger at people who are obeying the law as it sits.
I do think it's a shame that so much of 18-20 YO porn is dedicated to depicting the girls as being far more naive and "innocent" (shall we say) than most girls that age actually are (Or really ever have been). I've never seen a real college girl skipping happily along sucking on a huge lollipop outside of porn. I don't think it would be much of an issue if they just refrained from taking it to ridiculous extremes like that.
Edited by - randomprecision on 10/28/2010 6:05:29 AM
realtip
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Posted - Nov 27 2010 : 9:10AM
I have an objection over BL porn.
I object to BL porn having to constantly hit the viewers over the head with reminders of the girl being 18 or older. We already know that the girl is over 18. Why do we have to keep hearing it every 5 seconds? Why does every BL scene have to have the guy asking the girl how old she is? Can't we just leave it to the viewer's imagination? Why do we have to keep hearing statements like "I love fucking your 18 year-old pussy" over and over again? It's just as bad as the way IR porn has to constantly remind us that the guy is black by repeatedly telling us about the "big black dick" that the girl is fucking. Do pornmakers think that we'll all forget that the guy is black, or that the girl is really an adult, if they don't keep telling us all throughout the scene? We get it already! Shut up about it.
I was watching one porn scene recently that seemed like it was going to be more promising in this regard. The girl was playing a high school student. Instead of asking her the usual question of how old she is, the guy asked her what grade she was in. Finally, this looked like a porn scene that got it. It had finally found a way to way to maintain the BL fantasy without the viewers having to hear that same old tired and trite "I'm 18" line that's in every other BL scene. The girl in the scene responded that she was in the 10th grade. But then, just when you thought this scene was setting up to be a great scene, they have to ruin it by later asking her age, to which she replied that she was 19.
OK. I know this is only porn. But who in the hell is 19 and in the 10th grade? You're not even supposed to still be in high school at 19. Either say she's one or the other, but not both. Personally, I would rather the girl not mention her age at all. I know it sounds trivial. But stuff like this can ruin a porn scene for me. Even though it's only porn, it can still atleast try to be a little realistic.
Anyway, that's my gripe about BL porn. Everybody already knows that all the performers are adults. Yet, we have to keep being reminded that they are as if we're too stupid to already realize it. Just another way that porn loves to insult the intelligence of the audience.
fatalbert
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Posted - Nov 27 2010 : 12:51PM
^ Realtip, are you just now realizing that the only way you can put the words "porn" and "subtlety" in the same sentence is to point out the absence of the latter in the former?
I've watched a lot of of porn over the last 20+ years, from all eras and most genres, and I have yet to see one scene that wasn't apparently aimed at pimply sophomores who've never seen a pussy or an asshole before -- and are therefore presumably content with 6-inch genital closeups whose only variations are increasingly weirder, less viewable angles.
Monthly rant over. I'm happy now.
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