Ten years ago, if I was was looking for a new DVD, I could go to any adult DVD shop and purchase virtually any new DVD and it would have many if not all scenes include anal sex. Over the last five years or so there has been a steady decline in the number of new starlets coming into the biz who are doing anal sex regularly, and many who had, like Missy Stone, are now leaving or have left porn. Whether it was stars like Aurora Snow, Flick Shagwell, Molly Rome, Crystal Rae, Paris, Sapphire Rae, Vanilla Skye, Allison Whyte, or others, years ago I could watch almost any DVD I wanted with new young talent and have a vid be full of fantastic anal sex scenes. But not anymore. Why are the European and Russian anal sex videos thriving and we can't get any decent anal sex content in our North American videos? Why are we posting threads asking about so and so's first anal and when it's going to happen, when we should be getting these scenes right after they come into the biz. Is anyone out there going to fix this?
^ In the past, many European porn stars came to work in USA. Katja Kassin was one of them and so was Sandra Romaine, Angel Dark, and many others. They all became popular anal queens because they were so good-looking and so good at having anal sex with the horny guys. But since the election of Obama as president, the enforcement of passport rules created by president Bush became more strict than before. And now it's very difficult for European porn stars to come and work in USA. European porn stars are staying in Europe, and much of Europe isn't doing well economically now. Which is probably bad for porn business. It's the European porn stars who are the best at having anal sex. And they aren't allowed to work in USA now.
I wonder why more companies dont go over there to film, then bring their product back to the pervs here at home in the US? I would love to see a Jules Jordan or Justin Slayer flick filmed in Europe.
^ Some European countries, like Russia for example, have laws against making porn movies. This law isn't enforced against some local porn makers who probably pay bribes. But an American company would be on shaky ground there. They would attract a lot of attention, and the police might feel the need to enforce the anti-porn law against foreigners just to make themselves look good in public. A lot of countries allow prostitution but prohibit making porn movies. There really isn't any country anymore where porn makers feel entirely free to make their porn movies. It's either passport restrictions against foreign porn stars, or it's some other kind of rules and laws that interfere with making porn movies. Edited by - Dan on 4/16/2012 9:24:39 PM
Thank god for all the American anal whores like Kagney Linn Karter and Amy Brooke. If I ever had the guts to make porn, I would be an anal whore too.... pussy is just foreplay. :-)
The number was always pretty small compared to those that stayed overseas. The airline ticket isn't cheap, getting a work Visa is not that easy and frankly you need contacts on this side of the Ocean to help get you jobs.Yes, it's called job security for Americans. Allowing a foreign person to work in the US takes a job that could and would have gone to an American and gives it to someone who is not even an American citizen.I don't know if I'd say that. I think that they are more numerous at doing anal early on rather than waiting but then again they don't have as many chances of getting hired for standard B/G shoots like American performers so their choices are a lot more limited if they want to make money.
Perhaps there is more job security now for 100 or so American porn stars, who are willing to have anal sex in their scenes. But this increased job security for 100 Americans comes at the cost of decreased anal porn entertainment for millions of American porn consumers. Trade protectionism like this ruins the whole porn industry in order to help 100 or so workers. It doesn't make sense at all in the overall scheme of things. Only a politician who wants to favor his unionized supporters and doesn't care about the whole society can do something like this. Edited by - Dan on 4/17/2012 10:00:13 AM
The really odd and bizarre thing about this is, you have European/Russian site groups like DDF, 21st Sextury, TeenCoreClub.com and others thriving and their niche area is anal sex. Currently I have 4 year long subs to internet video sites, all specializing in anal sex, and I'm wondering why a site group like 21st Sextury can offer DRM videos and there are no American anal themed web groups that offer anything close to what these other sites do. I gladly will pay for well made anal porn. While seeing attractive Europeans performing a ton of anal scenes, I'd really like to see more of the Chelsie Rae, Deja Daire, Jeanie Marie Sullivan, Missy Stone type actresses performing regular anal sex scenes.
gals that do anal nowadays dont have to earn their reputations like in days past so thay can now charge a premiuim rate for whenever they do get booked for it. in the meantime the top of the heap starlets get by on vanilla & parody rolls to pay their bills. chicks in xxx dont even wanna get out of bed nowadays for less than 1k for a b/g scene, let alone anal. it's also very risky hiring anyone new that does anal because they're prolly not any good at it due to the low propensity of anal/dp scenes being shot across the board. its ALL a by-product of technology and tubesites/bit-torrent thieves impacting the core of what was porno production in Los Angeles. in regards to shooting in Europe: the 2257 laws are what keep us from shooting in Europe like we used to. now, you have to purchase scenes/movies/footage from a European country and release it as a secondary producer. American producers cant use Euro identification for a U.S. release since the D.O.J./Feds say they cant tell if those docs are legit or not, so they just dont accept those i.d.'s altogether. it's also lower rates for Euro performers so producers over there can load up on anal more often. might not be the answers y'all are lookin for, but that's showbiz! lates, Von S.
Well i am a member of 21sextury too and it seems to suffer of something too, not sure if it is not enough money or what, but the quality has gone down there too. The weekly scenes come late or not at all. Their Russian production stuff sometimes stops updating for a few weeks and then a few updates and then a few week pause again. Also their DP site seems to release a scene once every 2 week nowadays and then the backstage video on the following week. Also their othersites update less frequently.
Here is an idea anal has been overdone and forced down the throats of people who really did not give a damn about it for years.It slows down the scene.The girls don't like it and lot the fans do not feel it is needed to make a good scene.
Perhaps a good way to get around the 2257 laws is to migrate porn shows to the internet. The government has less control over what people choose to watch on the internet. Netflix works by streaming movies over the internet. And streaming movies can be done from Europe or any other place. It doesn't even need to be done from USA. If the government is interfering in porn too much, then internet is the way to get around such government.
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Posted - May 29 2012 : 6:24PM
I've rarely been excited by anal in porn for the simple reason that it bears no resemblance to the kind of anal i like. Specifically, that the cock is pushed in deep and worked in until the balls hit her rim. Good anal needs to be about deep intense sodomy, where the girl really feels like her asshole being fucked is the wrong and dirty act we like it to be, violating in that good way. All this typical jabbing of only half the cock into her poop chute is really dull and doesn't look as exciting on film as director's think - in fact I like to see penetration being deep in that I can only see hip to cheek because the cock is in balls to the rim.
Perhaps you should check out the Gapeland.com website and look at the scene pre-views there. In one scene I've seen there, Omar Galanti bangs the ass of his sexy chick so hard that he literally spanks her ass-cheeks with with his hips, while driving his cock all the way to the balls inside her ass. You can actually hear his hips slap her ass-cheeks during his anal ride with her. Apparently, gaping the asses of sexy lasses prepares them really well for anal sex. And since for guys, gaping the lady's ass is just foreplay, the anal ride that follows to finish off the guy is something to see. These horny guys really bang the sexy asses of their attractive lasses.
^ Euro porn stars are often better at doing anal scenes and are more willing to do them than many American porn stars are. Which means that for anal porn, shooting the scenes in Europe and streaming them over the internet from there makes the most economic sense. Not only do you avoid undue government regulation this way, you also save some expense of putting the scenes on DVDs and making them more expensive for customers to buy. It's all about efficiency and productivity, just like in any other kind of business. The company that is more efficient and saves a lot of money by not exporting porn across political borders any more than it has to is a company that can offer its products at lower prices and still make good profits out of it. Edited by - Dan on 5/30/2012 6:55:34 AM
Anal sex scene's are the most expensive one's ,second thing is it is not natural and may result into many medical problems if done regularly e.g. Anal fistation etc. porn production studios are badly affected by piracy and they have to pay companies to control the piracy as well. File sharing and torrents are responsible for it as porn production companies cannot affor to pay almost more then double to models for doing it and content going for free and no one buying it :). Porn production companies seriously need some business management professional who can teach them the right way of doing business :) People struggled to find the dirty movie on shares for first 4 months but when I searched for avengers releaed by vivid to check which DVD store has a best price and cheap shipping rates,I was surprised as I got the file shares links only from google.For dirty movie people desperately looking for it and requesting torrents and shares everywhere but it was well controlled and gave the return.if bigger porn studios like vivid ignoring this problem ,think about others :).so you can expect less number of anal scenes.
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Posted - Jun 8 2012 : 4:54AM
Dan: With the utmost respect (and no offense intended), your "logic" on this topic is way off base. The question was "What's with the massive decline in anal sex scenes?" It has NOTHING to do with European actresses not being able to work in the US. It has to do with supply and demand. These companies are out to make money. If the demand is for all anal, then there would be more anal scenes being produced. When there is a gap in a free market society, businesses move to fill that void to capitalize on the money that can be made. Adam Smith 101. To think that in a country of over 300 million people, that we couldn't find enough hot women to fill the demand of anal scenes is just downright silly. This country is around 75-80% Christian. People here are having a conniption fit because women breastfeed in public for crying out loud. In fact, in this day and age, women here are still not able to do something so basic as to take their shirts off on a public beach, but men can. I’ve got a word for that: Discrimination. We aren’t talking about the bottom half where men and women are different, but the top half. Men have breasts & women have breasts. Yet one gender can display them openly, while the other gender cannot. And before anyone is ready to jump in saying that there is a size difference, I can point to plenty of obese men on the beach that have far bigger “moobs” (man boobs) than many very attractive ladies have. Thus, it is OK to force someone to look at French Fry Eating Champion Jimbo Ieatsalot and his EE cups, but not OK for Kate Hudson to try and prevent having tan lines on her torso. Sexual repression at its finest. If centuries ago, it was determined that women went topless and men had to have shirts on, then a man taking his shirt off at the beach would be a huge taboo in our society. It just goes to show how inane this concept is, yet we as society blindly buy into it. Moreover, just this week, the Catholic Church censored a nun (who is also an emeritus professor at Yale) because (amongst other things) she had the audacity to assert that masturbation can lead to better marriages. And then people wonder why we don't have more anal scenes here. Our society is SO sexually repressed it isn't even funny. Hell, we can't even provide proper sex education and birth control for teens in this country because a huge percentage of the country fallaciously believe preaching abstinence actually works (and which is illustrated in the fact that the Bible Belt has BY FAR the highest percentage of teen pregnancies in the nation). Wrapping this up, one could surmise that the OP's initial question has to do with what the public is actually purchasing, the advent (pun possibly intended) of a plethora of internet porn sites where the most ardent porn fans flock to (leaving the more tame crowd to purchase "mainstream" DVD's) and perhaps the slight added cost to pay for anal scenes. Cheers! Edited by - ErinB on 6/8/2012 4:59:58 AM
The reason why there's less anal now is because there's less porn being made. Why should anal be any different than standard b/g. I think the percentage of anal vs other kinds of porn is probably the same as a few years ago and will remain the same. It's just that we will see a decline of all kinds of porn including anal as long as people have no issue with getting their porn fix from tube sites and torrents sites.