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SashaGrey
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472 Posts
7/06
Posted - Oct 24 2007 : 11:28PM
So, the news is dvd is dying-correct? What happens to the features? If most pornography is consumed online, will you download your favorite features such as Pirates, Operation Desert Stormy, The Fashionistas, etc...? What does this mean for larger companies who cater to couples looking for more narrative build up and titillation? Or the kinky fans who like to see BDSM, but can only watch in their favorite feature? SInce BDSM is online without narratives (primarily) does this mean these fans will go to the already established Internet companies? How about packaging? I myself covet my dvd collection as well as my cd/vinyl collections. What will you do?
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ma meeshka
Iconoclastic Member

3939 Posts
4/06
Posted - Oct 24 2007 : 11:47PM
when/if dvd dies, then porn will become an even bigger self-parody. all it'll be is non-stop three-ring circus gonzo. women, couples, and non-internet pervs will have been totally alienated, and the core audience will be as brain dead as the core product.
i guess i'm a hard copy stalwart. vive le dvd!
Flash All-Star Supporter
Golden Age Classic

11018 Posts
5/01
Posted - Oct 25 2007 : 12:03AM
I doubt that DVD will be gone for a long time to come. VHS is still available and DVDs are cheaper to manufacture than a VHS. There may be more limited films being released on DVD but I would expect that if they are worth anything they will still warrant a DVD release.
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world
12377 Posts
9/07
Posted - Oct 25 2007 : 2:24AM
I mainly watch features from the 70s but I'll check out new features on VOD and then purchase them if I dig it.
BTW nice to see you working with Joe Gallant in The Skin Trade.
BigBobxxx
Senior Member

2681 Posts
5/04
Posted - Oct 25 2007 : 12:05PM
+1 hard-copy stalwart
 
backdoorman
Senior Member

Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman !
2776 Posts
10/07
Posted - Oct 25 2007 : 9:44PM
I have an online store and sales are miserable. I do better selling on a marketplace type site. Even Ebay sucks anymore though. It seems people want things given to them and not for you to make a dime. I personally would much rather have dvds with the photos/artwork than downloads or watch them online. I have other things I like to do with my computer like this forum por ejemplo !
caroline-NL
Member

543 Posts
3/07
Posted - Oct 26 2007 : 9:00AM
I think this is a media hoax, the DVD isnt dying.
I talked with many sexshop/videostore owners in Europe.
The sale of DVDs is even higher than 2 or 3 years before,
but the prices went down much more, so the profit is
lower. Especially in US porn, too many companys have
a high price when the DVD is released, but they reduce
it to 50% or even 75%, after just 2 or 3 months.
So many customers just wait or only rent. Only WICKED has a better strategy, at least in Europe, they dont reduce their old DVDs exorbitantly ( around 10% ). And they have a large backcatalogue, Ive ordered quite a lot of older titles, and there never was a problem. Some companys cant even deliver
titles ( or want ? ) half a year old.
Download is more a problem regarding cheap porn sampler
and boxoffice hits. The normal back programm, and especially
classics, like "Jaws", "Star Wars", "E.T." are always going strong. Almost all of the customers have this movies, but they rent them because of the bonus material on DVD.
The Porn flood of the last years, with many, many
extremely bad porn "movies", is mostly responsible for the
so-called "crisis". But its only a crisis, if you look at
the low profits, not at the number of porn movies rented
or bought.
Dracula
Member

Women's necks are too damned sexy for me!
756 Posts
3/06
Posted - Oct 26 2007 : 10:46AM
I am hoping to see either HDDVD or BlueRay DVD take off and offer viewers much more detail in their porn watching in the near future. These high quality DVD formats bring an almost 3D experience to the movies. I think DVD sales are far from dying.
phatbasey
Senior Member

1390 Posts
1/05
Posted - Oct 26 2007 : 12:36PM
I would be extremely sad if DVD/tangable media dies. I am a huge fan of the coverwork extra etc. I am even pissed at Extreme Associates because they went Internet-Only.
juha
Senior Member

2752 Posts
3/05
Posted - Oct 27 2007 : 1:58PM
DVD won't die.
Perhaps more Gonzo companies will go online only.
But Feature connoisseurs will continue to buy DVDs.
The quality gap between Feature and Gonzo production will grow.
Savoy All-Star Supporter
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Sucker for Sinners
1844 Posts
12/06
Posted - Oct 31 2007 : 6:47AM
DVD may just change to another tangible media.
I don't think we'll get to the point where all porn is consumed by VOD and website subscriptions. People usually want to touch something they just spent money on. It makes their purchase more satisfying.
darkside762000
Member

United Kingdom
91 Posts
3/06
Posted - Oct 31 2007 : 6:55AM
I don't think the issue here is the longevity (or lack thereof) of the DVD format itself, but rather that of hard copy/tangible media vs. online content.
It is certainly conceivable that we could move towards an intangible media model at some point in the near future. Walgreens are apparently going to start rolling out DVD burning booths in their stores, so this is a big step in that direction. It's a boon for retailers because there is no physical stock that has to be stored, moved, inventoried, sold at a discount to make room for new releases. It will also pose an interesting challenge for shoplifters.
However, the issue then becomes one of 'Why go to the store when we can just download and burn it at home?'. So I believe store chains could end up shooting themselves in the foot somewhat on this one. As soon as download-to-burn really takes off and one of the big consumer electronics companies rolls out a ubiquitous disc burner that can also print artwork on the disc face at a reasonable price, then finished copy DVDs (or HD-DVDs, or Blu-Ray, or whatever) will become defunct.
Media companies (be they porn, mainstream, record companies, video game designers or whatever) would do well to start reevaluating their business models with an eye on non-digital hard goods, i.e. ancillary merchandising...you can't get an action figure off of bit torrent, nor can you download a dildo from rapidshare. This will all be moot if the industries involved can begin to successfully crack down on piracy, but as yet, very little has happened on this front.
In the future yet to come, I envisage a world wherein there are very few middlemen between the artist and their audience, and thus a bigger piece of the financial pie for the artist, or perhaps a lower cost for the consumer (look at Radiohead's new album, for example). The real winners will be the companies that media storage products (the discs, the disc burners, printers, pre-cut blank DVD sleeves, cases etc.). Media will still be ultimately tangible at the discretion of the end user, but it will very likely not be sold as such.
BigBobxxx
Senior Member

2681 Posts
5/04
Posted - Oct 31 2007 : 12:53PM
Despite all the improvements in Internet video and downloads, I much prefer the quality available on DVD (plus HD and Blu-ray).
You just can't compare a 1-GB scene on DVD with a 50-MB download from the internet.
And, again, +1 hard-copy media
Janitor
Retired

Porno movies, sexy videos, xxx. Adult DVD Talk at your service.
6409 Posts
11/99
Posted - Oct 31 2007 : 1:19PM
Maybe I'm alone, but I'm extremely lazy. I have an ipod that needs filling but I'm too lazy to put music on it (I'll do it tomorrow!) I still think it's way easier to buy a DVD than it is to download a movie. Features (and people like me) will keep DVD alive longer than many are predicting. Of course I still buy albums.
Steve Hirsch gives DVD 3 more years. He should know. I think DVD will still be around after that, but not a new release market - it'll be a bargain basement thing.
juha
Senior Member

2752 Posts
3/05
Posted - Nov 2 2007 : 4:11PM
There will always be a market for new releases.
But the DVD has to be a collector's item with a booklet with glossy photos of the stars, etc.
 
pandoras box
Member

step inside the box
6 Posts
11/07
Posted - Nov 5 2007 : 2:59PM
With the way things are progressing it does look like dvd will die out but I doubt it will be in the next couple years.
The box cover is a huge selling point for dvds. If this is to happen, marketers are going to have to get creative. Not to mention the box cover is also really important for the performers. I do wonder if it would eventually effect their "star" quality in selling a movie?
Bernard
Member

usa
158 Posts
7/06
Posted - Nov 5 2007 : 3:05PM
I hate watching porn on the computer its boring and I lose interest.
I collect adult dvds I have around 600 now and im proud to display my collection.If its on the computer theirs just nothing to show.
Yep im a collector.
Robert
Member

My past is a foreign country. Most things are different there, including word usage.
503 Posts
12/06
Posted - Nov 5 2007 : 9:41PM
DVD will die when the technology changes (improves). Just as was the case with reel to reel 16 MM and then VHS cartridges.
Probably won't take as long a VHS, since the technology curve is not linear.
They have stopped making VHS tapes and very soon they will not be making any VHS players.
Probably within 10 years they will stop making DVDs and DVD players and that technology will be replaced with some form of "better, faster, cheaper."
A likely candidate would be some form of chip memory, like the current PC memory sticks and of course cable/wi-fi downloads.
The HD flat panel displays (all sizes, from hand-held to wall mounted) would have a small port that would accept and read the memory stick.
Then, of course, in time, that technology will be replaced.
Whether or not 'features' are produced will depend on the same factors as today. Can a profit be made.
There might even be a point when live actors are no longer required. Whoa!
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world
12377 Posts
9/07
Posted - Nov 5 2007 : 11:49PM
Really? Like to who, your parents?
Edited by - BlackSix on 11/5/2007 11:50:21 PM
Bernard
Member

usa
158 Posts
7/06
Posted - Nov 13 2007 : 7:30PM
Yep and in case anyone else comes over.Its a funny set up porn and action figures all over the place hahahaha.



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