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I've got to tell you I am so sick of watching a2m videos and the women participating feel the need to touch the cock before sucking or the editor cuts the scene briefly. In my opinion this is no longer a2m, atogm or ass to anything else. Its bad enough that there isn't enough dirty a2m but the least these women could do is suck all the creaminess off the cock( if there is any). Not always, but too many times most attempt to hide the fact they they are wiping it off. By pretending that they are trying to keep the dick hard or something, anything to not REALLY taste there ass like they ask. Does anyone else out there feel the way I do on this topic and if so what can we do to get the directors to make the videos better. And please don't talk about paying the actresses more to do it. If thats the case then these women should just stay out of those types of videos.
Hey guess what? Some girls don't like to eat their own shit off of a dick. OMFG!!! Can you believe it!!!? Some girls don't believe that hepatitis and salmonella poisoning are the price to be paid for your viewing pleasure. Oh sure, they know how much you want to see them ingest their own feces, and they don't want to disappoint the dedicated fan, so they try their best to make it seem like they truly love snorting turd but at the end of the day, they're gonna do whatever they can to avoid swallowing their own dookie. How dare they!!! And to all those lame directors who don't force your female talent to deepthroat a fudgesicle, you should lay down your cameras forever for this is a crime of almost unimaginable magnitude. Shame on you all. P.S. That may have been almost entirely sarcastic.
+100 Damn good post, Mike! I'll add that the fans should just stroke a little harder and you won't care if there is an extra second delay when the cock goes from poophole to lips.
+1 Mike! I'd also add tasting lube can't be to high on most starlets lists of turn ons either and tasting cock right out of an ass will more often than not give her a nice dose of that too.
I really have to concur here! C'mon guys! Who really does a2m IRL? I can tell you that even in my most indiscriminate days, pulling a train at 20 years old, sometimes with and sometimes w/o condoms, I would have never done a2m. From a health standpoint, it just seems to be a complete no-brainer.
On the rare occasions that I'm lucky enough to get the pecker up there, I'm not about to risk pulling him out incase she says no to re-entry! ;) so no a2m doesn't happen irl for me. she'd tell me to f off anyway.
I think the OP was talking about properly executed fetish act, and whether you like a2m or not, it happens to be one. Who cares if it's being done in real life? There are a lot of things that happen in porn and which don't exactly occur in an average bedroom, but since when does it make it ok to fake stuff in porn? If chicks have problems tasting their own ass, by all means, they shouldn't, but if you do it, do it right please (don't wipe off delicious creaminess ) Mike has derailed the thread.
You can't get hepatitis from yourself. Just sayin'.I think the point was that nobody has to shoot this particular thing if they don't want to. I think the OP was complaining about false advertising. For instance, if the movie is called "Ass to Mouth #5". If someone wants to put out a movie with that name, they should find performers who don't mind doing the act right or just not do the movie at all. Either that or they should make sure that it is noted on the box that it's "safe" ATM or something like that so potential buyers would know which ones are fake and which are real. I don't think that's an unreasonable request. It doesn't sound like the OP is saying "Make all porn chicks do real ATM".
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TheVulture Deactivated Again
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Posted - May 22 2008 : 6:15PM
Can't really see the appeal of A2M personally. Anal - superb. BJs - yeah, obv. I don't really get any heightened sense of arousal when the 2 are combined.
Exactly. And performers should either do A2M or not. There's enough "grey area" fakery in porn (too-young MILFs, too-thin BigButts, too-soft MonsterCocks); no need to add flagrant fakery to the mix.
For the record, if the girl just wipes the cock off a little before she sucks it, it doesn't really change anything (technically). Unless they literally stop and wash the cock off with water and some kind of soap, she's still sucking on asshole. It doesn't really matter how much you try to clean it up. It's still an asshole. A little bit of whatever still invariably leaks down from the intestines. I doubt anyone ever actually died from sucking a dick out of their own ass. They may get sick (depending on any number of variables) but I can't see where it's any more unhealthy than guzzling a glass of cum from 40 different men (who have all fucked any number of porn chicks). It seems nasty (and it is) but some people get off on nasty. Do it or don't.
Does Harry Potter really fly around on a magic broom? A porn movie is no more real than a Harry Potter movie. While some A2M fetishists may consider anything less than completely documented dick-out-of-ass-into-mouth not to be A2M, I find it hard to argue for more than a believable construct. In other words, if it doesn't make me think 'Looks like the editor faked the A2M' then it goes down as an A2M. As for the wiping-it-off tirade, maybe you should try remembering that the glass is half full, instead. The penis did come out of her ass and it did go into her mouth. That's more than you'll get from 99.99% of the female population, ya know.
Good point but porn is a little different from Star Wars. I think the main complaint is that you can tell they're faking it. If you're watching a Hollywood movie, even if you can tell the effects are fake, you can usually get past it. Your dick and your brain just aren't connected that way though. I guess the main point is that the customer goes in expecting to see real ATM and gets fake ATM (or at least interrupted ATM) instead. The argument would be a little less effective if they were informed (somehow) ahead of time that they couldn't expect to see the real thing. I'd have a hard time getting off to porn with fake cum, for instance (If I could tell it was fake). I completely get your point but I understand where loadboy69 is coming from, too.
I agree 100 percent. No way in hell the performers should be wiping the cock when they do a2m. Defeats the whole purpose. Still waiting for dirty a2m to arrive, thats gonna be hot as fuck.
The whole idea behind a2m is that they are tasting something that was up there ass. Wiping it off or cutting in between and claiming a2m defeats the whole damn purpose. Why don't you just bust out a bottle or purel next time you film an a2m scene and let them clean it off with that first eh? Nobody is being forced to do anything, they are getting paid to be there, simple as that. Don't commit to an a2m scene if you can't do it properly.
You all seem to have in your mind what is a "real" ATM scene - is there some sort of internationally recognised standard that participants must adhere to to get a 10 on the judges score card? And as far as real life goes, things go on in the hurly burly of rambunctious sex that won't always satisfy the WHO standards.
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Posted - May 23 2008 : 1:55AM
The meat puppet has to execute a perfect Jon Dough Twirl while the female simultaneously places both hands on the deck, or her thighs, and -- this is critical -- leaves them there. The cameraman cannot quail, and the editor must not falter. It's an intricate dance.
Porn has nothing to do with your dick. It's all happening in your mind. All we're talking about is one man's expectations of what reality is. Or, to be more precise, one man's expectations of what reality-as-portrayed-on-film is. So, yeah, we're complaining about bad editing. Happens all the time.
Ass to mouth for the sake of ass to mouth is a distraction. The act itself becomes more important than the interaction between the performers. I'd rather see it be spontaneous than seek out a movie that specifically advertises it.
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Posted - May 23 2008 : 4:06PM
I, for one, think that the word "Creamy" in all its forms be banned from this site permenantly. Secondly I find it amusing that everyone complains that the girls don't do dirty A2Ms for their viewing pleasure. Mind you, I'm not complaining about anyone, just saying that it's providing some humor on a dreary day.
Duly noted, though I do think you can get hep. from shit, even your own.Again, this is true. If the box says that's what you're gonna see then you shouldn't be ripped off. I just don't see the need for DIRTY A2M. A girl can give herself an enema and avoid shit chunks almost for sure. I think the fact that a few people have complained that A2Ms aren't dirty enough is ridiculous. That is encouraging performers to take health risks for your viewing pleasure.
An enema does not sanitize anything. It just helps avoid visible shit. However the bacteria is still on there..so your point is moot. The whole porn industry is based around doing shit that is rather unhealthy. Sex with hundreds of people, gangbangs, no condoms...etc. Dirty a2m is not much more unhealthy really. I'm not saying anyone should be forced to do this at all, that would be rape. However there are women out there who would be down to do dirty a2m and they should be allowed to. The audience would be huge for it. In fact there are a few porn girls on here who are smokin hot and already said they would do it. Check out the dirty a2m thread.
That the nature of society. We're always asking others to take risks for our viewing pleasure, wether it be double anal, ass to mouth or hard gagging. It can be Hollywood with death defying stunts (how many broken bones can Jackie Chan boast) Or Wrestling, where being speared through a flaming table, or thrown off a fifteen foot ladders. My point is we ask performes to take risks for us every single day so I'm not sure why porn should be any different. I'm pretty sure it's impossible to get Hep from your own shit. Hep is a sexually transmitted disease, not something you can get from cat scratches or bad beef. If you don't have it to begin with you can't transmit it, not to others, not to yourself. Catching hep from eating your own shit would be like Ron Jeremy getting HIV from sucking his own cock. That's not to say there aren't health risks, it's to say that isn't wone of them. Now I think complaining that a girl grabs a cock before she starts sucking is silly. I agree with the cut, being bad specially when it's so blatant. I've go no clue why they can't make a less obvivous cut, I mean switch to an angle where you can't see the pentration for the last few "thrusts" and then go straight to oral.
Well I'm pretty sure you're wrong there. I'm not a doctor but Hepatitis is a disease you get from other people as far as I know. Again. Not saying girls should be expected to do this just because it isn't all that risky. I'm just saying some folks are blowing it a bit out of proportion. You do have to be kind of careful with anal but your own ass isn't as risky as someone else's.You don't see the need for it because it isn't your kink. I don't see the need for foot fetish, hirsute or gas masks. But since I don't get into any of those things, the fact that I don't personally see the need for them is kind of a given, isn't it? People often don't really choose their kinks. It just kind of happens.I just happen to think there's room for all kinds of kinks and fetishes. If it gets someone off, it's reasonably safe and the performers are OK with it, the fact that some people think it's nasty or gross or whatever is irrelevant. I don't think anyone is saying dirty ATM should be standard in all porn and the performers should be expected to do it or else (at least I hope they're not). But I wouldn't have a problem with it as a dedicated line for people who are into it. It's not really my thing either but I can think of quite a few kinks that do nothing for me and I wouldn't miss them at all if they weren't done. But I know what it's like to have a kink or a fetish that doesn't get fulfilled. It sucks.
I guess I should have done more research before I posted my ignorant and inflammatory post. It's true. You can't get salmonella from eating your own feces. ...but you can get the following Adenovirus Campylobacter infection Coxsackievirus (hand-foot-mouth disease) Enteroviruses E. coli infection Giardia infection Rotavirus Shigella Tapeworms Toxoplasmosis Fucking spoiled bitches!!
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Posted - May 23 2008 : 6:42PM
I'd be happy to get the anchovies I ate last night.
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Posted - May 23 2008 : 8:19PM
So, as you're standing in the sun-drenched living room of some rented house in Porn Valley, shooting a scene which includes A2M, which I'm guessing you've done at least once a week for the last two years; that exact piece of slightly soiled neutral-tone carpet upon which your feet rest is the High Moral Ground, is that it?
I think this falls under the saying "give them an inch and they will take a mile." What i mean by that is 10 years ago or so you would never even think about girls sucking cock after they have been thoroughly fucked in the ass. Now you want them to suck a dirty cock. What’s next a cherry on top? If someone is so interested in real a2m and not satisfied with them films, why don’t you try it yourself and see how you like it.
+1 It seems that it has been established that hep. cannot be contracted from eating your own shit. Well, eating your shit isn't healthy. PERIOD! Does the porn industry not feel a need for any self censorship? If a girl were willing to, say, eat a gallon of her vomit and shit and let these acts be filmed, should it be done just on the grounds of she being OK with it? Of course not! Any responsible filmmaker in ANY field, including porn, should not be putting their actors health in possible jeopardy just because there's a market for it?
Well I'm glad to see that I received a bit of feedback on this topc and as expected alot of you didn't read what I said. Most of you get it though and i'm glad to see that other people feel the same way as I do. Obviously people who don't have this fetish can't understand the importance of the girl being as nasty as she can and in turn what a turnon it is to the viewer because SHE thinks that its totally acceptable to taste her own ass. Thats fucking hot thanks for the interest I'll watch for anymore feedback
I have. Many, many times. More than I can count. And I'm still here to talk about it. It's not that bad, actually. Asshole tastes better than cum if you ask me. But then, I guess my point is irrelevant. I really don't care enough to insist on seeing it done straight from the ass to the mouth. My argument was merely against faking it and trying to pass it off as the real deal. I just don't like sneaky business practices. Edited by - randomprecision on 5/24/2008 10:41:39 AM
NEECH - I was eating a tunafish sandwich as I read this thread, and I laughed so hard that I snorted tunafish through my nose when I read Loraine's brilliant post. BSD
Notwithstanding my previous reply, I was able to very easily find some very graphic A2M. Pretty much anything with Bridgette Kerkove in it will do it. I watched some scenes from "Dirty 3" which had quite a few no-holds-barred A2M with Bridgette and and another girls going back and forth between anal and oral both on themselves and one another. If that's what your into, it's worth a look.
I worked with a couple that enjoyed A2M regularly/everytime. He liked it and she didn't care, so they did it regularly in RL. I filmed them doing it at least 5 times and never saw any indication they didn't both enjoy it. But, the publisher cut it out of the final video every time.
Having read through this years-old thread now, I think most of us porn fans get it. If we're being "sold" ATM, we want no-holds-barred (not scat; that's not what we're saying), Kelly Wells-style dick sucking fresh (ha) from an asshole. No hand-wiping, seemingly at the invisible spider web they sometimes seem to be ensuring against, and no mouthing/gumming only. That's porn by the numbers, and nobody wants it in any kind of a scene, much less an ATM. We want (and they're out there...Kinzie Kinner comes to mind) girls who are so caught up (even if it's faked) in the nastiness of the fuck that they don't even care about licking--really licking--and sucking that cock that's just been ball-deep in their bowels.
Since anal is boring to me, I see atm as a wasted half blowjob that could have been a complete blowjob, and I expect switching holes mid-fuck would be unsatisfying to any woman, in or out of porn. I think atm and possibly all anal porn will disappear as the risk of bacterial infection becomes more significant with the general failure of antibiotics. Atm and anal fetishists will either get over it or live in misery for the rest of their sad lives.
Exactly. I understand where Quasar is coming from, but the problem is it gives directors justification in falsely advertising their movies as A2M with girls who don't really like doing A2M.
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Posted - May 11 2011 : 10:22PM
When anal disappears, so will porn. The cheap wienies who spend $12/year on old Jenna Jameson movies will have to eat their popcorn watching soaps.
Working Girls 3 (Reality Junkies) - review by Captain Jack
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