The "retirement" of a pornstar is often greeted on the message board with with a large measure of surprise (today, I'm thinking of Sasha Knox). Although I get disappointment (I've certainly felt it myself), I've never gotten the surprise.
It seems to me that fucking on camera would be a difficult thing to handle emotionally -- something few people are suited for (even if they don't realize it when they start performing) and something a person could easily burn out on. I think it requires a unique personality to stick around as a performer for any length of time.
Edited by - bob on Nov 24 2006
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Posted - Nov 23 2006 : 12:03PM
Yeah, I agree with you here. When a new girl comes along that I like, I just hope she gets in one or two scenes that are the kind I enjoy (POV, Oral) and after that the rest is "gravy". I realize that the turnover in this business is huge so I savor every good scene with a starlet because I know it could be her last.
Also, I think their reasons for leaving are not always "emotional" as they are practical -- a new source of income, a boyfriend, getting married, new goals in life, etc.
How much you wanna bet that the highly touted Sasha Grey - Miss I-live-and-breathe-porn-and-am-only-18 - will be gone within six months? I guarantee something will come along to make her change her mind and she will leave. She is only 18 after all.
Same thing happened with Selena Silver. She came on all strong and pro-porno, etc. Then poof -- she was gone.
You know what I'm not even that disappointed when girls quit.
Usually they have left behind plenty of stuff to enjoy.
The quality of girls who get in the biz these days, I'm just grateful they're willing to fuck on camera at all. Even if it's for just a little while.
If Lela Star quits tomorrow, she's already done more than enough scenes to impress me.
When I think about my dad's porn from back in the day, it just doesn't compare with how fresh the chicks are now. There are girls in porn now who look better to me than girls on mainstream TV & movies.
As much as I hate when one of my favs retires (ie. Maryanne), there always is another hottie just coming on the scene that grabs my attention for a few months. It's actually a good thing, like a revolving door of putang.
I just don't imagine porn to be a buisness where it is easy to burn bridges, unless you explicitly steal their money (like those twins with check forgery as opposed to being really late all the time). I imagine porn star's mentality to be like strippers, but more so.
You don’t know me, you’ve never introduced yourself to me, so please don’t under estimate me. …Please don’t make any guarantees on my behalf. Before "betting" on me, why didn’t you post this opinion of yours as a question to me? Oh, and don't quote me as saying "I live and breathe porn and am only 18" I have never said those words. I have already stated my perspective on my place in this business, my hopes, goals, etc. and evidently you haven't the head capacity to comprehend this previously available information. Does the fact that I am "only 18" deconstruct every POV and pledge that comes out of my mouth. Does it dismiss everything I have worked for, and believe in. no! Is it so hard to accept that a young woman my age can have a real sense of autonomy, : )
I wrote (essentially) that Katja has always seemed very clear-headed about her porn career, but that her approach was probably comparatively rare. I decided that it was presumptuous of me to make that kind of generalization about other performers, so I deleted it.
Well, I have to be kind of disappointed when a girl I really like just suddenly goes missing. I have kind of unusual taste in women and not just any female porn star floats my boat. Hell, half the time, when I really like someone, I can't even describe what it is about her that just does it for me.
I did like Sasha Knox (if in fact she's actually quit the business). I found her performances a bit tame for my taste but her looks were exactly what I like.
I liked Sierra Sinn right away and her performances have gone from pretty tame to scorching (I knew she was gonna be hot the first time I saw her). I really hope she sticks around. I'd be seriously disappointed if she quit. Same with Katja (as far as I know, she's still around).
I think Sasha Grey's gonna be another one that's gonna inspire a lot of jerkin' (I haven't seen much of her yet but can hardly wait). I think she has a good attitude for this kind of work. You never know who's gonna stick around and who isn't. Last I heard, Tiffany Mynx was still around. I never thought she'd be someone who'd last very long in porn but she seems to be longevity personified.
Edited by - randomprecision on 11/24/2006 2:38:02 AM
20/20... I'd have to imagine it's going to be a bunch of crap. That's my presumption from past experience. Disney doesn't like sex.
And I'm banking on Sasha Grey doing whatever the fuck she wants to do, from now until forever... But my assumption is that whatever she does will most likely be pretty awesome, whether such things are strictly pornographic or not. Huge gangbangs, philosophy dissertations, experimental films... I don't care. It'll be awesome.
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Posted - Nov 24 2006 : 2:42AM
I'm disappointed when a girl I like quits before putting out very many scenes. For me, Brianna Blaze is the one I was most disappointed about.
Frankly, that's my feeling on just about any mainstream media. Most of 'em aren't gonna have much good to say about porn. They probably just wanna do the "holier than thou" thing. I'm sure it's all about how terrible life after porn is and how the experience screws up little miss princess for life. Fuck 'em! I don't watch their lousy tabloid crud, anyway.
Well here is a link to the story that will air tonight. It is not about pornstars, it is about a Las Vegas stripper who became a born-again Christian and now tries to save girls from the "sex industry."
The story on the website does not look promising. It is the extremely typical "I was lost then I found Jesus now I want to rescue the girls from that sinful world" type of thing.
I really hate these sort of stories meant to appeal to conservative suburban middle America. They are so narrow and blinkard in perspective.
They are about confirmation of stereotypes and reassurance of prejudices, not about really discussing anything or making anyone think.
Just another bare bum in the shiower 1739 Posts 12/04
Posted - Nov 24 2006 : 8:17AM
I am usually happy for the girls that leave after compiling a decent body of work and I just hope that they have set themselves up with a nice little nest egg - and are not just under the thumb of some suitcase pimp or Kevin Federline.
I think porn is not only emotionally draining but physically challenging for girls. I mean, think about the girls who get their asses pounded four or five times a week and throat fucked etc etc. We’ve all noticed some girl getting skinnier because of the proposed “anal porn diet.”
I mean burn out has got to be a big issue. Girls now are doing more scenes in six months then major porn stars did in their entire career from the 1980-90s. So yeah burn out is an issue.
I think the key is balancing your career out and knowing when to slow down when you have to or like everything else you won’t last.
Then again some girls just try porn for fun and get sucked in by the money or other things.
And for tritone, you really shouldn’t “quote” someone if they never said it or have proof to back it up. That’s just bad ethics.
But yeah, as six demon bag alluded to. If you have enough scenes from a girl that you are fond of and she retires then you will be happy. Case in point, my Jewel De’Nyle collection or Keri Sable collection.
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Posted - Nov 24 2006 : 9:55PM
I have changed my message to remove the direct quoting. Those statements are only meant to summarize the Sasha Grey enthusiasm, she did not actually say it like that.
You're in the UK Sierra! It's my birthday on Tuesday 28th, big 30, any chance of a birthday shag! If not I'll settle for a kiss on the cheek and an autorgraph!
I'm hoping Sasha Grey goes the Melissa Lauren route and eventually directs or writes porn. If you think her scenes are hot now, imagine if she got to call the shots. Look out!
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Posted - Nov 26 2006 : 1:33AM
I'm usually happy when pornstars leave the biz. My simple thought is that most women that enter porn enter for the wrong reasons or they are not mentally prepared to deal with the stresses that can occur.
Nothing kills me more than seeing a fresh faced cutie in one video, and then seeing another scene months later where she looks like she hasn't slept in days and looks stoned out of her mind.
the high turnover is good in that you're always getting new faces to see, and new asses to see, but for me it's also tricky- if i'm gonna get into a girl i want to make sure she'll be around a while. i don't want to get into a girl, only to go search out a few more of her scenes and find out there aren't any. so i usually take not of a new girl, but don't start paying too much attention or watching her until she has 10-20 in already.
I am glad you are not tired of porn Sierra you are so fucking hot. Please do more movies where you show off your hot feet. You got amazing feet pleae show them more :-)
Sasha Grey is on the fast-track to directorhood. If she wants to do it, I can easily imagine her "mentoring" with her favorite directors.
Holy shit! I just got a mental image of Sasha acting as a co-director with Jake Malone on the next "Gang Bang My Face". I can just see it now - Sasha forcefully pushing some cute newbie's head all the way down on Brandon Iron's cock and yelling at her to "Keep it all the way down, you fucking whore!!!" --- oops, I think I just had a virtual orgasm
Oh man, I have re-watched a couple of Brianna's scenes lately, and I agree completely.
If/when Sasha retires from porn I will be sorely disappointed, even if she leaves behind 500 scenes...well, if she continues to post here it will lessen that disappointment considerably. Her posts give me almost as much wood as her scenes. (Hey, I know I am not the only pervert who finds intelligence to be a major turn-on!)
I liked Brianna Blaze a lot too, but how can we be disappointed when she left scenes in 40+ videos and websites for us to enjoy. I haven't even seen them all, have you?
And the ones I have seen, she did all sorts of crazy stuff to satisfy gonzo audiences. Anal, DP, DPP, deep throat, cum swapping, tons of swallowing. The only things she avoided was IR and creampies.
So really we don't have much to complain about. Like I said, I'm just grateful girls like her are even willing to fuck on camera in the first place.
Good point, I guess I am just a greedy pig when it comes down to it. On a side note, I don't generally check out "web only" scenes (for a number of reasons), so I will have to work on filling the holes (so to speak) in my Brianna Blaze DVD collection.
In spite of my overly avaricious nature, I am with you 100% on that sentiment.
People quit the business because "life happens" to them just like everyone else on the planet. People retire or change jobs everyday. Just because we fuck in front of a camera doesn't mean that our reasons are less valid than anyone else.
It always disapoints me when girls leave the biz because i would hope that they are clear headed, and happy with what theyre doing and where theyre headed (and sober). Then when they quit i think to myself, What went wrong? I guess unlike some im unable to just move on to the "next best thing" and enjoy the scenes they left quite so easily.