Is it just me or is there suddenly a lull in the niche of swallowing movies? 10 man cum slam appears to be over (last one was #26 from 2 years ago I think) Which is a major bummer, that one was my favorite. American Gokkun appears to be done, as does American Bukkake... at least Gokkun went out with a bang with Sasha Knox! Down the Hatch is over All the Anabolic stuff is done. Don't think JJ is producing much on this genre. Is GGG all that's left??? Those Germans are industrious, no doubt. If I'm missing a new series or something, please enlighten me, I need more, MORE, MORE! Topic Moved by - Janitor on May 17 2011
I'm with you on this one seedfeeder. Swallowing is what I want to see!
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Stalag Deactivated User
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Posted - May 17 2011 : 9:33PM
They alienated a substantial number of swallow fans with the constant freak stuff - gargling, swishing, accumulation etc. I stopped buying when every vid became a freak show. The producers are probably still wondering why sales went south.
As I am a swallowing movie fan too I switched to some japanese movies.. urabukkake.com (not censored!) is pretty sick even a little too much for me. Milky Cat has some really good ones aswell (GKS is my favorite), you can buy them at japansm.com Heres an example: http://japansm.com/gks04/index.html But yea my favorite series are also gone.. even spermcocktail has no more new updates... I really have no idea wtf is going on.. I think there are still plenty of fans in this genre!!!?
I like the Japanese stuff, except for the censoring and the emotionlessness of most of the female stars. They are the most creative though, big on cum on food, in drinks, as a diet, etc. Fun stuff to watch but I gotta see some Western culture too... Brandon Iron is still around and he has a swallow fetish so you know he'll be cranking out something new.. *fingers crossed*
Brandon Iron quality went down from pornstars to amateurs, from big loads to small. The same for Mike John. Boring material, always the same girls, not more "super pornstars" swallowing tons of cum. Last Teenage Spermaholics have a very low amount of cum swallowed. Too many miss and facials. Vince Vouyer quality went down too. I miss Dont waste it taste it series, plus many others Cum coat my throat from John Strong (by the way last from the series were boring too). I hope that next Feeding Frenzy from Jules Jordan fix this current trouble.
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Posted - May 19 2011 : 8:15AM
Last I heard Brandon Iron was kicked back to Canada. A Canadian version?
For a quality swallow movie (like AGSOI 6) I'm already that far that I would pay up to 100$... maybe even more Its just so sad that there are no more new, american swallowing movies. not even a website.. or can anybody recommend a good quality website with weekly updates? why there are no directors out there who lunch a new, high class swallowing series? seems like theyre all blind, or i'm just completly wrong and the genre is really no more profitable
Interesting thread. I have been hard pressed to find good swallow movies lately. I recently bought a bunch of older DVDs from 5 years ago or so. Back then there were more swallow scenes than we have today. I can only speculate why they have disappeared. Is it hard to find girls who'll do it? I have noticed that most of the swallowing these days seems to be in the heavy-duty gang bank flicks where the girl does lots of screaming, has makeup running down her face and men spitting in her mouth as they stretch her cheeks apart. WTH. Why can't we simply show the girl swallowing in the much softer hard core couples scenes? For example, Barely Legal format but with swallowing instead of her pushing the cum down her front. Every man likes to see his girl swallow!
^ *raises glass* here here! [mod edit: quote removed. please do not quote the post directly above your own. just use an "up arrow". thx.] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 5/19/2011 9:33:06 PM
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Posted - May 20 2011 : 2:45PM
The problem that nobody really swallows anymore. Back in 2002-2005 the chicks would just take the cum and swallow down, now we get 2 minutes of posing, gargling, shaking their heads back and forth and whatever and your boner just goes away. If I wanted all that posing I would watch America's Next Top Model. It makes me wonder who the directors are making the movies for, us or them? We can see the guy has cum, just let the chick swallow and be done with it, that's on the rare occasion we actually do get a swallowing scene. Why isn't somebody taking care of this niche? Swallowing movies were the BEST. By the way, for anybody interested - EXPLOITED TEENS, BROKE AMATEURS, GLORYHOLEGIRLZ and BACKROOM CASTING COUCH has a bunch of amateur swallowers, no POSING, SPITTING or GARGLING while letting a ton of cum drip on the floor. They seem to be the last places of their kind. Edited by - Mr_Heatmiser on 5/20/2011 2:53:11 PM
I'm a swallow fan as well, hopefully ff11 and ncda will soon return, I most say the swallow this series from Peter North are great, last one Teagan Summers. It it disappointing that with bigmouthfuls, micah moore, haley cummings and daisy marie did not swallow. Off topic, did Asia Carrera ever swallow?
No, I have not shot anything for A GOOD SOURCE OF IRON #7. Yes, I live in Canada. I am happy to be a fan of a lot of cool, interesting stuff out there produced by talented people.
Heitmeister is right-selfish directors! They don't care what we want to see, and their tastes are unfortunately stupid. I thought gargling was neat once or twice... but not every time. Now it's stupid. Just stick to the cum eating... if it's a thick load... sure, let her chew on it a little before she swallows. Or perhaps instead of the stupid way they do drinking scenes... I'd love to just see a scene where 2 girls have classy little snifters of cum, and they chat away about stupid shit while sipping their man cream like it's wine. There's no creativity anymore... it's all stupid copycat bullshit. Maybe Brandon Iron will save us. For the record.... One example of "interesting" is Rodney Moore. He creates little storylines and then doesn't dump them but actually transitions into the sex smoothly. Like I saw one where he's jerking off watching this hot cleaning lady.... She catches him, but then helps him and jerks him off with yellow cleaning gloves lol.. then Jerks his cum all over a table, then licks it clean. See? That's at least slightly imaginative. Differentiation works in ANY business people.... why do the porn directors generally all ignore basic business principles? (rhetorical, but answer if you think you can lol).
Would you stop with the "a lot of cool, interesting stuff out there produced by talented people". Its blatantly obvious the days of "cool interesting stuff" are no more, as is evidence by this thread. You're entitled to your opinion but it sure aint the majority opinion because most of the USA porn being produced these days is lame. Is there some cool interesting stuff? Perhaps, but not much, and certainly not much at all being produced here in the USA, that's for damn sure. A LOT of cool interesting stuff, yeah riiiight, that's total BS. Quit trying to blow smoke up our ass.
It's not Tex's fault.... were like junkies who can't get a fix.... we're getting riled up... you better produce something involving a horse trough of cum and an anorexic girl who hates cum Brandon, or Tex might take you hostage and make some threats.
Interesting debate that seems to have started here. I might have to disagree with seed's comments regarding creativity above. Speaking for myself, I am actually not looking for creativity in positions and acrobatics when it comes to sex and swallowing. I am looking for movies that show the girl completely naked, no shoes, having missionary sex on a bed with one man. Mike John does well with this. But it's difficult to find. So many of the positions these days seem annoyingly focused on reverse cowgirl and closeups of the penetration and her feet are frequently chopped from view? Swallowing? Usually only with multiple men. I'm often seeing lots of screaming, face slapping, makeup running down her face, DPs, funky positions on the couch and other odd stuff. It seems porn is filled with creativity these days. I'm NOT saying there's no place for creative stuff in porn. I'm just asking why it has to come at the expense of more normal, fantasy type sex scenes we can all relate to?
I want to see more blowbangs (Not rough though) that end with the girl tilting her head back and just calmly letting her mouth get filled by multiple loads (preferably a minimum of 5) and then swallow them all together. I like that sort of thing :)
Its a math problem guys plain and simple.We dont sell porno anymore!!nobody pays for it.How are we to produce something that we cant pay for?If it was still possible to shoot these movies and sell them,I would.NCDA will be coming out in the next few months,if you compare it to the old days it wont be close to what I used to do because I ran out of money not filthy ideas.
Hi mike john, interesting comments. I am not sure what NCDA is or that no one is spending money on porn anymore. For instance I just spent $200 yesterday on a new batch of DVDs that I expect will hit my mailbox in the next couple of weeks. With all the online porn these days, could that be what you are referring to? I rent your movies in my local store and they are usually hard to get because they are always rented. I guess I'm just puzzled to hear that money isn't being spent anymore. Not disagreeing, just puzzled. We live in a hyper-sexualized world. Or so I thought?
To cimfan: Actually I agree with you 100%. I am a huge foot fan, and love nothing better than seeing a girl get pounded missionary, holding ankles, curling toes, etc... I'm simply saying a storyline is 99% gone from porn and can really add something special. Either way it does appear we agree on one thing: Porn directors don't seem to care what we want.... funny that.
I hear that mike... and stopping an artist like you from painting purty pictures for us perverts is a goddamn shame. I gotta question the "math" though. Logically if what you say is true... then the porn girls too are having more trouble finding work, which in turn drops their wages/contracts in which case suddenly you're in cum gargling city again. This is basic economics, which is my background-so I don't follow how only producers are effected by a claimed demand shift, and not the other components/variables/people in your business, including the actresses.
there's only so many retailers still buying dvd/hard goods formatted porno thesedays, to sell to you fans in the streets/suburbs. the delivery method is compromised since online xxx viewing contiues to swell regardless if it's paid for or not. brick and mortar stores are disappearing and w/them demand for our movies. and now in porn valley there's more gals than ever, but they're also doing more vanilla than ever, so it's hard for us to find gals that we wanna basically 'risk' paying full rate to deliver the hard/nasty scenes that have built up our reputations respectively, w/out us knowing beforehand if they can even pull it off. there's no word of mouth anymore among fellow directors/shooters since we've all had to square off and survive this downtrend on our own. porn chicks can escort or strip to cover their bills to some degree until the phone rings for their next shoot since they believe that taking $100-$300 off of their rate is below them and their time, even if you pay them same day and only have them on set for 4-5 hours max,..etc, etc.. I know all of this prolly seems ridiculous, but just look around at who isnt producing porno anymore, and really hasnt over the past 3 years w/any regularity that used to seem invincible in the dvd realm. should things turn around, Mike and I will be chomping at the bit to show people what it was to make hard and heavy gonzo like we've done individually and as a team over the years. let us pray, lol. lates, Von S.
^ Not ridiculous at all, well explained. One question: So it seems by this logic that the hard stuff should be on web sites too... why is most everything vanilla now then? And wouldn't it be logical to just hire nobodys then who don't think it's "below them" yet?
Most Porn girls are having trouble finding work,I get emails every day from girls looking for work that would have been booked weeks in advance years ago.Everything has gone vanila because the big internet companies are run by business men and lawyers,as opposed to some pervert like me or Swine who shoot what ever filthy shit comes into our heads.I have no one telling me what to shoot or how to shoot it.I shoot a movie and pay Jules to sell it.When I started company owners were perverts,real pornographers who let you run wild,I was hired because they saw me as a true perv.Now everything looks the same because lawyers are desiding whats safe and pc to shoot,so the business man doesn't get in trouble and lose to the feds. Edited by - mike john on 5/25/2011 12:55:36 PM
I'm thinking it's one of the goo girl movies. I'm pretty sure it has Michelle Raven and Bisexual Britni too. Find the one with both of them and I bet that's it.
Well that blows Mike. You're definitely one of my favorites-which indicates I too am a first rate pervert. Perhaps Max Hardcore getting locked up was the beginning of the end of good porno.
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Posted - May 28 2011 : 2:28AM
Ever think nobody buys your new swallowing movies because they aren't even close in quality to your older stuff? If you bought a Ferrari that went 200 mph would you buy a new one for the same money that could only go a 100? Bars and pubs sell chicken wings for 10 cents even know they cost 30. Why? because it's a lost leader, it keeps customers to pay for other things. I'm no expert in the porn biz but I do know business 101, you cannot go backwards and put out cheap products and hope for the same sales. You made your bed with the massive swallowing movies of a few years ago,they were awesome but these new 3-4 load flicks are ruining your good reputation.
Sorry we don't agree but I have more great porn now than ever before. I'm serious. I can't get enough of Kristina Rose, Jynx Maze, Tori Black, Chastity Lynn, etc. I'm discovering well-shot stuff all the time. Different directors. Different themes. Different approaches to shooting. I get off on a lot of it.
rambo, I must respectfully disagree with you regarding mike john. Have you watched his recent praise the load, jerk off material, totally unprofessional and similar movies? All of them are excellent and the girls are themselves. No unrealistic acting. I find the format refreshing in a porn world that seems to be more and more fake all the time. The girls seem at ease too. I think his stuff does just well at the DVD store, it's usually rented out when I get there while all the other non-swallowing stuff seems to stay on the shelf longer. I realize that's hardly scientific but I don't think mike has lost his fan base. Even if the delivery model may be changing we all need good CONTENT and mike delivers that.
I saw something yesterday about the Cal Osha rules for porn gearing up again. This may be a good time to make swallow movies, because if the new ruls go in place the scenes may have considerable residual value. I also suspect CGI stuff may start playing even more of a role in how porn gets made, should it happen.
These seem to be good points but there's a fact something went too far ,by reading carefully this topic I noticed that many others are in my very same situation , I like swallowing movies but I absolutely don't like to saw throat gagging , gargling , spitting into other girls mouth (although a french kiss between two girls after one of them or both received a load in their mouth would be very exciting)A simple fuck ending with a swallowing scene would be great. Also I can't stand scenes with girls swirling all around moved by performers or director who don't know what they wanted before the shoot or are not smart enough to tell the girl what they want , or performers/directors unable to understand how hot is a girl when she impales herself deep slowly and the they suddenly stop her to begin some meaningless gymnastic. May I recall idiotic directors who give instruction to performers while in long shoot or even in a close up of their face? So that everybody could see the performer looking something out of sight and then begins to moan or change position? Thus making absolutely apparent that it's all faked and destroying the momentum (we know it is as we know that no actor actually dies in a movie but there is a fantasy making all real for the time we're watching at it if you destroy the magic you will ruin a movie)and providing a powerful turn off Is it possible they don't have enough brain to give instructions while having a close up aiming the genitals? I don't know why all these parodies are selling maybe because of the lack of shit in them I buy or rent lots of DVDs before my ex GF forced me to get rid of almost all of my porn I had at least a thousand of them (or VHS) collected over the years (including a couple of super 8 films) Now even having to rebuild a collection I buy/rent less than half I used to before. Why? very simple I don't like the most part of it (this not considering that at least two thirds of a videostore are now full of gay/shemale stuff of which I'm not interested at all)I don't like to see girl getting mistreated and if I did I'd rather get some BDSM stuff instead So why I buy less porn than before ? Simple answer: I can't find what I want Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 5/28/2011 4:15:17 PM
Cant wait till the new ncda, in my opinion that series is always pretty good. Any idea on cast yet. It would be hot to see a girl hold her hands out like a bowl, let em fill it up & she slurps it down.
Mike, whats your favorite series that you produce/d?
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Posted - Jun 9 2011 : 3:50AM
As far as I know (praise the load, jerk off material are mostly facial movies.(I have little interest in these personally) The OP was asking where the "swallowing" movies have gone, Mike is a great director but his last great swallowing movie was a couple of years ago..
rambo99ca wrote:As far as I know (praise the load, jerk off material are mostly facial movies.(I have little interest in these personally) The OP was asking where the "swallowing" movies have gone, Mike is a great director but his last great swallowing movie was a couple of years ago..
Bummer; thought this feed would lead to some more valuable material. I guess I don't understand the industy; why can't they find a girl who likes to swallow and just do the scene? As your posts indicate, its more comoplicated than that. In the abscence of anything else, I will have to be satisfied watching over and over again Sasha Knox lapping up the bowl full. Absolutely the most incredible thing I have ever seen! I was wondering if anyone has ever interviewed her about that? I am curious if she really enjoys it?
I cannot find any new swallowing videos anymore. I really wish there would be more videos that had more swallowing as it's the hottest fetish ever. I really wish there were badass women like Chelsea rae/Aurora snow/Faith Leon and the Gokkun people behind doing the swallowing scene. It is really disappointing NOT to have any new swallowing material in 2011. Feeding frenzy stopped in 2009 I believe. NCDA stopped last year. American Gokkun 12 hasn't been seen. We really need swallowing videos. Us fans would really love One of those series to return. Edited by - gokkunlover on 9/5/2011 1:46:21 AM
Im a huge fan of swallowing and monster facials scenes, NCDA and NCSA were really great series 4-5 years ago. Last few years I started buying japanene bukkake dvds and I must say that its really great stuff what these girls do, they take 30-50 loads in their cute faces and their eyes are totally covered in jizz. I really wish some of the american stars would do something like that, fx Bree Olsen. I just bought 15 dvds with japanese bukkake girls and I start buying more US porn again if the right stuff comes again, these days 98 out 100 new releases are shit imo.
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Mr_Heatmiser Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 11 2011 : 2:40AM
Still existing on the Backroom Casting Couch and Broke amateurs stuff. The only girls who swallow good nowadays are amateurs, the pros are too busy modeling.
Supermodel pornstars who swallow big loads after being DPed is a must. Im almost exploding of thinking Jynx Maze and London Keys swallowing 20-30 loads after hard DPs.
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Posted - Oct 11 2011 : 2:10PM
I found another site that is just AWESOME for swallowing. It's called 'Gloryhole Hustlers'. Best stuff I've seen since Brandon Iron. All-natural swallowing, none of the glitzy shiny stuff.
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