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jamesb23 Member London 34 Posts 3/05	Posted - Jan 3 2006 : 3:15PM I'm often astonished at how formulaic porn is now. Gonzo is the ideal, sorry..the PERFECT platform to do absolutely anything and I mean anything - type of chick, mood, vibe, outfits, personalities yet 90% Gonzo is exactly the fucking same. It makes no sense. Given the limitless human mind and the scope of sexual things to do I find it really weird that that gonzo which by its nature should be off the fucking hook is often so predictable. I'm almost bored with it, which tells you everything you need to know. If I see one more gonzo movie by numbers I'll have to conclude that the porn industry is inhabited by filmmakers who don't have sexual fantasies. Watching gonzo and you would think that humans only had 3 sexual fantasies! God bless John Stagliano who is and always will be the only pornographer with the intelligence, imagination and talent to really make porn that truly stirs the soul. [Link]
TonyC Comstock Films 2523 Posts 8/03	Posted - Jan 3 2006 : 3:19PM Relax, it's just porn. [Link]
jamesb23 Member London 34 Posts 3/05	Posted - Jan 3 2006 : 3:23PM I maybe 'just porn' but that' akin to saying that its 'only music' or 'only art' if you are going to create something which not do something innovative, exciting, new, fresh, different? Porn is the ideal forum for all of these thing..people look to porn to see things they haven't seen before, things to excite, things to replicate. [Link]
TonyC Comstock Films 2523 Posts 8/03	Posted - Jan 3 2006 : 3:24PM There's no crying in baseball. [Link]
jamesb23 Member London 34 Posts 3/05	Posted - Jan 3 2006 : 3:24PM Incidently Tony I watch Xana and Dax and thought it was a fantastic porno, warm, loving and incredibly sexy. A world away from 99% of porn. [Link]

TonyC Comstock Films 2523 Posts 8/03	Posted - Jan 3 2006 : 3:28PM jamesb23 wrote: Incidently Tony I watch Xana and Dax and thought it was a fantastic porno, warm, loving and incredibly sexy. A world away from 99% of porn. Click to expand I am very pleased and flattered that you enjoyed Xana and Dax . Perhaps for some people 'porn is all about fantasy'. For myself, I want to see a cinematic idealization of real life. Good surf movies remind me how lucky I am to be able to surf. Good porn movies remind me how lucky I am to be able to fuck. We'll do our best not to let you down with future releases. [Link]
Edsmoviemadness1 Member UK 156 Posts 7/05	Posted - Jan 3 2006 : 3:47PM ____________________________________________________________ jamesb23 wrote: God bless John Stagliano who is and always will be the only pornographer with the intelligence, imagination and talent to really make porn that truly stirs the soul. ____________________________________________________________ So what is it, in your opinion, that makes John Stagliano stand out from other pornographers? And what would you recommend as titles that reflect the best of his work? [Link]
jamesb23 Member London 34 Posts 3/05	Posted - Jan 3 2006 : 5:50PM John Stagliano has a vision that reflects his fetish..The Fashionistas is incredible as is Ass Adoro. He understands the beauty of the female form, is not just about "Lets fuck this bitch in the ass" he teases, he flatters he looks to showcase the desire within women. He provides them with a platform to show off, to look wonderful and the be worshipped by the male talent. All of his work is genius of sorts..its hard to pick one out. its depends on your mood. Stagliano is more than just a pornographer he is an artist of the female form with an understanding of the viewer that has been copied but never bettered. [Link]
juha Senior Member 2752 Posts 3/05	Posted - Jan 3 2006 : 6:00PM TonyC wrote: Perhaps for some people 'porn is all about fantasy'. For myself, I want to see a cinematic idealization of real life. Click to expand I can't see the difference between "fantasy" and "cinematic idealization". [Link]
TonyC Comstock Films 2523 Posts 8/03	Posted - Jan 3 2006 : 6:09PM jamesb23 wrote: John Stagliano has a vision ... Click to expand I've only seen a very few of John Stagliano's flicks, but the things that sets them apart for me is that even when what he's doing doesn't turn my crank, I always get the feeling that JS thinks he's the luckiest guy in the world to be doing what he's doing. When watching other videos, as often as not, I get the creeping sense that the director is outraged that life treated him so unfairly that he ended up shooting (gasp!) porn for a bunch of reprobate masturbators. Maybe some people find shame and rage sexy. I don't. [Link]
de25ge Member yes I'm virilis 954 Posts 11/05	Posted - Jan 3 2006 : 7:52PM John "Buttman" Stagliano is fascinated with the visual aspects of anal, for example he likes it when a toy plops into the 3rd opening, sound and visual aspects turn him on. But when it comes to arousing a the girl or starting anal slow he has to do more, but I've seen him only in "the ultimate guide to anal sex for woman" where he was co-director. But that's 5 years ago, maybe he has learned in the past. Where is the creativity? Down the Hatch? [Link]
bursur Member 38 Posts 6/05	Posted - Jan 3 2006 : 9:00PM I just bought Hellcats 7 and the scene with Tiffany Holiday was the very creative. She takes on 3 guys, gapes and pees (not "squirt's) all over herself before she swallows. She looks great. The 1st time I saw her was with Selena Steele and where she drank cum like it was communion but was disappointed in her gangbang girl movie. Her Helllcats scene was great, sorry to hear she may not be doing so well - tha fact is not all girls can pull off a "creative" scene. [Link]
croy Platinum Member Discovry 4574 Posts 3/04	Posted - Jan 3 2006 : 10:27PM $$$ - as long as people buy, there is no reason to be creative. In that creativity is uncertain in the market that it will appeal to and has no certainties in the size of its market, it is a risk. [Link]
lou sapphire Member Take the plan, spin it sideways. 685 Posts 9/02	Posted - Jan 3 2006 : 10:53PM If you were to compare both Picasso and porn? I would say Porn is in its "blue Period". [Link]
Redish Poetic Moderator Long and Cursive road to the Ivory Pagoda in the province of Loraine 4076 Posts 12/03	Posted - Jan 3 2006 : 11:03PM lou sapphire wrote: If you were to compare both Picasso and porn? I would say Porn is in its "blue Period". Click to expand Sentimental? Porn? I put it in the beginning of cubism. [Link]

lou sapphire Member Take the plan, spin it sideways. 685 Posts 9/02	Posted - Jan 3 2006 : 11:15PM Redish wrote: lou sapphire wrote: If you were to compare both Picasso and porn? I would say Porn is in its "blue Period". Click to expand Sentimental? Porn? I put it in the beginning of cubism. Click to expand Almost.Im waiting until we get both eyes on one side of the face. (Blue Movie? Blue period?) I need a satire emoticon. Edited by - lou sapphire on 1/4/2006 12:10:29 AM [Link]
Endless Loop Senior Member Tomatometer 1129 Posts 8/04	Posted - Jan 4 2006 : 1:16AM The people have spoken, and their common points of interest have become more than obvious. However mundane these wishes may be, more often than not, including them is paramount to pleasing the average viewer's expectations. Once these anticipated priorities are met, a director is free to twist it 360 degrees, in any direction, with any amount of creative zeal, breaking rules of routine, and uniformity whenever possible. The problems however, arise when directors get creative with what the viewers consequently base their expected return of investment upon. A movie's title, cover pics, or captions that lead viewers to select it, sparks anticipation, and consequently a certain measure of expectation. Jerking that expectation to any degree, let alone 360, before satiating it, I believe tends to piss viewers off, and rates high among the miscues that likely has led to the moritorium on creativity. If its an oral flick, meeting expectation could require as little as making sure whenever cum flies, that its swallowed. Outside of that, I would believe directors have a wide berth for creating the manner, and means for why, when, and how that cum manages to fulfill those expectations. Edited by - Endless Loop on 1/4/2006 1:29:49 AM [Link]
TonyC Comstock Films 2523 Posts 8/03	Posted - Jan 4 2006 : 7:14AM lou sapphire wrote: Almost.Im waiting until we get both eyes on one side of the face. Click to expand Flattie Porn! Bornyo! [Link]
Bornyo Deactivated Member 803 Posts 12/04	Posted - Jan 4 2006 : 8:28AM TonyC wrote: Flattie Porn! Bornyo! Click to expand You going on about fake tits again? [Link]
croy Platinum Member Discovry 4574 Posts 3/04	Posted - Jan 4 2006 : 9:51PM lou sapphire wrote: (Blue Movie? Blue period?) I need a satire emoticon. Click to expand Blew Period. [Link]

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