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cakehammer
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Posted - Dec 21 2009 : 8:23AM
When I watch porn the male talent is the most important aspect. Most porn chicks are super hot but what really makes the difference is a guy with a massive cock to really take control of the scene and jam pack those pussies and assholes airtight with his gigantic hard cock.
IMO Manuel Ferrara and Erik Everhard are the best. Others favorites are Lex Steele, Mark Ashley, Nacho Vidal, Ian Scott, Ben English, Jean-Yves LeCastel (retired), Frank Major (non-active).
The thing you will notice about those names is that they have all been around for ages. I can't think of a single male performer who started in the last 5 years who even comes close to those names. Criss Strokes is probably the best of the new guys, he has potential to be very good.
The Male talent side of things is being ignored it seems. You would think that every guy with an 8 inch + cock would be banging down porn directors' doors for an audition. In this day and age it should be easier than ever to uncover new talent.
So my question is: Where the hell is the new big cock talent?
bi_girl
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157 Posts
11/09
Posted - Dec 21 2009 : 10:54AM
Agreed. The best I've seen lately has been Johnny Sins. Maybe a dude in his 20s, 30s? No more pot bellies, PLEASE!
keny
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400 Posts
11/09
Posted - Dec 21 2009 : 2:02PM
Actually , i am watching only Jmac , mark ashley , scott nail and voodoo scenes , for me they always bang the girl , thats what i like , a big cock but also banging , pounding , no riding at all !! thats what i like to see .
there are also other top performers like ben english , jonny sins ,erik everhard , mikael stefano , manuel ferrara , jordan ash , kieran lee , etc but look like jonny sins , i like the reverse cowgirl position where the girl gets banged hard , but jonny sins cock is too slim to do reverse cowgirl , it dont look great on camera !!
jmac is a new stud , but i saw one of his scene with cheyenne cooper in Dirty Little School Girl Stories , instant boner , awesome , it was banging action , keep wood all over the scene , knows where the camera is , good pussy shots !! Go check it !!
for 2009 JMAC is the new porn stud , best newcomer , he has not done many scenes coz he is mainly based in miami , and i think he is cuban , he do have a cuban accent !! another hot scene was for BRAZZERS WITH THE HOT LEZLEY ZEN !! another awesome scene .
lastly my worst performers would be Danny Mountain , limp performer , i watch a scene in shes got big boobs with cali , damn worst scene of the year , another scene where the guy was limp , it was for brazzers with hillary scott it was a d.p scene with scott nails
next would the one and only ramon nomar , the most hated guy !! by fans
Dan
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2056 Posts
6/07
Posted - Dec 21 2009 : 7:43PM
Not everybody likes to see big cocks, including myself. I'd rather see two normal guys give the lady a good DP. Or stretch her out with a good DPP and DAP.
Two normal guys put together are usually bigger than one big guy is. And watching the lady take two guys at the same time is more fun as far as I my personal preference goes.
cakehammer
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35 Posts
7/09
Posted - Jul 24 2010 : 11:35AM
I'd rather see two massive cocks give the lady a good DP.
 
UnkwnUsr2
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Posted - Jul 24 2010 : 11:58AM
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TedtheBellhop
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Posted - Jul 24 2010 : 7:38PM
Hell yeah!
Motown 1976
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Posted - Jul 24 2010 : 7:49PM
@ cakehammer
It seems like you've missed a whole section of the industry where the 'big cock talents' resides. Here are 3 guys who I know are much better performers that the guy's you've mentioned.
1. Ice Cold . He's the 'biggest' talent in the industry. He is 10 hex better than Mandingo. Lots of stamina. He starred in Kristina Rose's 1st IR scene this year.
2. Flash Brown. A rising star who usually works with 'Blacks on Blondes'.
3. Richard Mannn. It's none stop fucking with this guy.
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Edited by - Motown 1976 on 7/24/2010 7:54:26 PM
Assman2000
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47 Posts
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Posted - Jul 24 2010 : 10:04PM
Don't forget about Prince Yahshua, he is a good performer. Also CJ Wright, Erik Everhard, and Mr Marcus are also good.
Edited by - Assman2000 on 7/24/2010 10:07:05 PM
Motown 1976
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Posted - Jul 24 2010 : 10:33PM
Yes, how can I forget Prince Yahshua. But I don't think Mr Marcus falls in the 'big dick' category.
AsianAnalPantyhoserGuy
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Posted - Jul 25 2010 : 11:05AM
To me, a massive cock is critical to the heat of an anal scene. Mr. Marcus is definitely one of the performers that I would put in the watchable category, but Erik Everhard and Manuel Ferrara are definitely not on that list. Big dicks with tiny tips or excessive foreskins never seem to deliver a righteously deep packing.
Rubberhole
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Posted - Jul 25 2010 : 11:06AM
And I always heard porn was about the women...gezzz...lots of dick-talk around these boards...
screwcap
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I'm walkin' here........
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Posted - Jul 25 2010 : 11:15AM
As usual this tread is going off course and turning into a "who's who" while OP asks specific question.
On topic, the next wave of big salami is probably still in High School, a NFL "walk on" wannabe, in jail
or on their way in a Greyhound to Chatsworth lookin for a gig. Whether on not they can break in is another
story.

Edited by - screwcap on 7/25/2010 11:31:09 AM

screwcap
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I'm walkin' here........
1032 Posts
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Posted - Jul 25 2010 : 11:33AM
this is a cock tread.
you're in the wrong thread perhaps.
Edited by - screwcap on 7/25/2010 11:34:54 AM
backdoorman
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Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman !
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Posted - Jul 25 2010 : 1:06PM
Which to many members means it should be in the gay forum perhaps.
 
screwcap
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I'm walkin' here........
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Posted - Jul 25 2010 : 1:23PM
^Jesus wept.
Edited by - screwcap on 7/25/2010 1:28:22 PM
backdoorman
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Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman !
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Cerebral Jedi
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I don't trust men who don't like big tits.
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bharv2003
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Posted - Jul 26 2010 : 8:29PM
^Agreed...
Where do we find new Ice Cold clips? only on Bangbros?
undone
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what's for dinner?
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6/07
Posted - Aug 9 2010 : 8:41PM
I like to see big hungrey cocks ravenging a horny girls mouth, and pussy and she begging for it, loving it, ruined by it..only to fantasize about large cocks from that point forward. Big black cocks too...that long stroke deep into her pussy while her asshole twitches...
kingcat123
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12/10
Posted - Dec 8 2010 : 2:02AM
It seems as if the gay porn industry finds and scoops up the biggest new studs to the porn industry. Jake Cruise often gets these guys to work for him, especially for his SG4GE website. Didn't Criss Strokes start off doing a handful of gay-for-pay scenes and masturbation flicks?
The former Whitezilla, Shawn Diesel, was introduced to the industry by gay porn producers of masturbation flicks. He has apparently been replaced as Whitezilla by former gay porn performer Matt Hughes, going as "Danny D" in the recent Whitezilla releases.
Girth Brooks is one example of newcomer of which I am aware of a straight guy who does gay-for-pay. He did one straight scene that I know of with Aurora Snow on Jake Cruise's site. That guy is impressive, and I would like to see him transition over to straight porn.
There are several "straight" males doing gay for pay with large dicks. However, the gay porn industry supposedly pays much better and there is more frequent demand for certain performers, so many of the guys just stick to doing that and modeling for men. I believe that several of these guys could be recruited over if they were actually approached about it. I do not know what kind of straight man would not take a "pay cut" to be one of bigger straight porn studs.
davebowman
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294 Posts
6/09
Posted - Dec 8 2010 : 4:08AM
I'm right here - waiting for the call! ;)
Rod
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Posted - Dec 8 2010 : 10:11AM
The gay industry seeks out guys and the straight industry seeks out girls. The gay industry doesn't really care if the guy is straight or gay, they just want studs. The straight industry does just about everything they can to block new guys. The results are obvious. Go figure.
trout bum
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"I'm Not Here To Suck My Own Cock!"
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Posted - Dec 8 2010 : 11:03AM
I'm sure there are plenty of good liking guys out there with big dicks who would die to break into the straight porn world. Not all guys with big dicks would choose to do gay porn just because of the money. Face it, most guys love pussy over fucking a guy's hairy asshole.
kingcat123
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12/10
Posted - Dec 8 2010 : 1:04PM
Definitely. I was just pointing out that the simple answer to the topic of the thread is that ~90% of the new big cock talent will be found by the industry who actually seeks it out, which is the gay industry. How often do we hear about straight studios doing casting calls for new male talent? If you are a farmboy from Wisconsin who has a 9 inch cock, then you don't just show up in California and say, "I'm here to fuck some chicks!", and then expect to immediately get hired/noticed.
They would if it is the only job that they could get. Scene pairings in straight porn are a result of being friends with the right people or being represented by the right agency. The same directors/studios use the same male performers over and over, which makes it difficult for new dick talent to be featured with the sought-after girls who are established or who you would otherwise normally watch. You would have to to be watching porn from a low budget studio or amateur to really see much of anything new as far as male talent is concerned, and the girls that we all want to see are not working in that segment.
Also, don't forget that there is more to gay porn than penetrating other men and their hairy assholes. It also includes masturbation, handjobs, massage, muscle modeling, gloryhole/BJ only scenes, wrestling/sport for those who just like to watch men sweat without fucking, etc. There is demand for all kinds of stuff.
 
Aplus
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Posted - Dec 8 2010 : 3:29PM
I kind of disagree with you Kingcat123. I think there are quality films available to guys newer to the business. I just think it takes a while for guys to really establish themselves among female performers and studios. From a studio/director perspective, I think it's tough for them to sometimes take-a-chance on a male performer they don't know or know little about. If a guy is a reliable and good performer, he'll (generally) start getting more quality work as his career moves along.
raybbaby
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Sarah knows why Barack won!
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Posted - Dec 8 2010 : 6:49PM
Right behind you?
Rod
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Posted - Dec 8 2010 : 8:26PM
I agree 'it's tough'.....performance issues is one of the biggest problems on a porn set. As long as customers are willing to buy the product, why would producers take a chance on someone new. As a result, new talent doesn't stand much of a chance. Will they get a few scenes??? Yes, but probably not many, and their career DOESN'T 'move along'. Ask raybbaby.......
raybbaby
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12/09
Posted - Dec 8 2010 : 9:30PM
^Yep, I concur. Dude "X" can't just walk in off the street to offer his services as a stud at Vivid, Wicked, DP, or whoever. And now that I'm trying to shoot amateur smut, I can totally see why. Sometimes dudes can't get hard, can't stay hard, and then the weird one to me, is some dudes can't "pop" on camera. In the big leagues they like dudes who can pop within 3 or 4 minutes of being told to, but I'm not asking for that. Just a "popshot", I dont care if you need to switch positions for a few minutes, or jerk off or whatever. And some dudes just can't get there, maybe it's the camera is a distraction, maybe it's that they feel pressured. So big companies, with big name girls, and expensive locations rented cannot take a chance on a new guy. Whether it's performance, or not knowing how he'll act/behave on a set, or if he'll be on time and clean and respectful to the girls versus late, smelly, mean and possibly a no show, well you can see the problem. You can't hardly afford to have a shoot collapse because of an unknown "male talent".
kingcat123
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Posted - Dec 9 2010 : 1:13AM
It all depends on an individual's perception of "quality". Under the quality standards of people who are really into the porn world and for the majority of new guys into the industry, these quality films are not available to new talent. The thing about guys who go through some of the gay screens is that you know that they are camera-tested and capable of successful performance when requested for a crossover.
BiRickyAZ
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Posted - Dec 9 2010 : 5:14AM
Danny D (Matt Hughes in gay porn) and Andy Mann are two very well hung newcomers. Both Brits.
raybbaby
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12/09
Posted - Dec 9 2010 : 12:47PM
Gay crossovers are, for the most part, a thing of the past. Of course it still goes on to a point, but it's very limited. Many straight directors won't shoot, and many girls won't shoot with, a male who has done gay scenes. In the wake of the Derrick Chambers HIV scare a few months back, one can hardly blame them.
kingcat123
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120 Posts
12/10
Posted - Dec 9 2010 : 2:24PM
Unless they do the "other gay porn" that I was talking about where they do not penetrate guys, right? It's hard to justify blacklisting somebody who masturbates on camera for the enjoyment of men or who just gets their dick sucked over somebody who is actually putting themselves at risk for AIDS.
raybbaby
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12/09
Posted - Dec 9 2010 : 2:39PM
I don't know, you're entering an area where specific risky behaviors are not really considered. How much time do you think performers or producers will spend researching who has done what, and who will say "no, not that dude, I heard he did gay scenes". Hard to tell what is just a business decision, and what is safety concious, and what is just good old fashioned homophobia.
I feel the need to mention James Deen, a dude who has now been around for like 5 years, but started at 18 years old, and was awarded AVN's male performer of the year at like, 23 years old. Not really new anymore, but definitely a younger dude, and definitely packin'.
kingcat123
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Posted - Dec 9 2010 : 3:23PM
To simply make assumptions about a person's risky behaviors because they are in the gay porn industry sounds more like homophobia and misinformation. A female or male performer who performs exclusively in straight porn could be just as sexually risky/promiscuous in their personal lives, and nobody would even take the time to research that or to know about their partners or how many times their off-screen partners have actually been tested for STDs. But, the people who are considered "risky" are the ones who are performing on camera in the other segment and who are subjected to the same STD tests every couple of months.
We are also seeing a popularity increase in porn genres that involve bisexuality and men getting strap-on'd by women. These guys have to come from somewhere, and it depends on what studios want to close in on these genres and the consumer markets who buy them. Christian XXX would be a good example of somebody who has gone through these segments, but still seems to be popular across the board.
 
raybbaby
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12/09
Posted - Dec 9 2010 : 3:30PM
But, back to the topic of the thread, I find the earlier post where the poster stated he didn't think Mr. Marcus fell into the "big dick category" to be hilarious. Really?
zebec
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12/10
Posted - Dec 11 2010 : 7:30AM
What about Mike Adriano, Cristian Devil, and Hez Christ? Hez is not young but is fairly new to the US scene.
kingcat123
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120 Posts
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Posted - Dec 12 2010 : 1:36AM
It is good to point out that a lot of new talent is found in Europe, and may not always be seen by Americans.
I thought that Hez Christ aka Mr. Kane had retired from the porn business over a year ago. He was working for Killergram, and one of the people associated with that site had announced on this forum that he had left the business. What have you seen him in that was filmed lately?
Christian Devil aka Christian Clay is great. However, if you are familiar with Rocco's production work or some Italian porn, then he would not be considered "new". Rocco started putting him in a lot of his stuff starting in 2006-2007.
Mike Adriano is not really new, either. His name value is just rising.
Rod
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Posted - Dec 12 2010 : 4:32AM
I think 'name value is just rising.' is a good way to put it. Dane Cross won 'Best Male Newcomer' last year. He starting doing ProAm porn in 2006 and commercial porn I think in 2007, but wasn't recognized as a newcomer until years later. Not exactly a new performer (I don't know AVN's definition of newcomer), but he's certainly more visible now.
phatasslover
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Posted - Dec 15 2010 : 4:27PM
I've been most impressed with Matt Hughes in the whitezilla flicks.
Guy is huge, one of the biggest white cocks I've ever seen in porn.
Shawn Diesel was lame..wasn't even that big and he is butt ugly.
Johnny Sins, way overated, not even that big, maybe 8 at most. Never heard of Girth Brooks but just looked him up..not impressive at all, very average looking.
I really wish an American company would bring Kid Bengala over to the u.s. for some films.
Guy is huge and funny as hell.
Ice Cold is definitely huge, not as big as Mandingo though.
phatasslover
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195 Posts
6/07
Posted - Dec 15 2010 : 4:28PM
Btw, anyone know what happened to "Maxx Blacc"? Guy was pretty damn big though he seemed to have issues getting fully hard.
Aplus
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Posted - Dec 15 2010 : 4:57PM
Yeah, and there are plenty of young guys like him in the business right now getting primetime gigs or pussy. Not sure how posters aren't seeing them because some of them work a lot.
I think things have clearly changed from even 10-15 years ago. Used to be that newbies were relegated to 10th mope in a lowrent gangbang or just mope work in general. Bottom of the barrel stuff to prove they could hack-it. I've been checking the humble beginning from some of the newer guys, and I mostly saw work with well known directors and studios, attached with female pornstars guys (10-15) years wouldn't get close to. Now the newer interest in MILF porn might be playing a part in it, but things clearly aren't as bad as they used to be for newbies.
BustdownGal
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539 Posts
7/06
Posted - Dec 16 2010 : 6:56AM
hasn't viagra made it easier for getting over wood problems?
raybbaby
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Posted - Dec 16 2010 : 11:42AM
^yes. And things, as tough as they are for new guys, are better than they were 10 or 15 years ago. That still means the odds are stacked against them. The biggest factor is just the larger number of production companies and websites, which provides more opportunities. Also the rise in popularity of bukkakes, gangbangs and monster facial/creampie type stuff. It's not that much fun, but it's an opportunity that is relatively new. If you can get up and off with 50 dudes jerking off all around you, you can probably maintain wood through anything.
Rod
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908 Posts
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Posted - Dec 16 2010 : 6:09PM
Drugs help, but getting it up is only half the problem, they don't necessarily help getting it to go off. OBTW, I think Levitra is generally preferred over Viagra.
ninja1
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Posted - Dec 16 2010 : 7:49PM
^Not sure how important is wood. Some of the mainstay guys, who get the top gigs, have never been rock-hard in any scene I viewed.
raybbaby
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Sarah knows why Barack won!
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12/09
Posted - Dec 16 2010 : 9:21PM
Boy oh boy, I don't know who you're talking about or what scenes you'r refering to. Wood and being able to get it and maintain it, is the be all end all for male performers. You can't shoot a scene without it. And the stills for box covers and websites or magazines are the real tough part. Wood is the thing. If a guy can't get it on command, keep it as long as needed, and pop within two or three minutes of being asked to, he's by definition not a mainstay. If you don't wanna name names, I guess I understand. Talking smack about guys with the dream job of dream jobs is pretty predictable, and bound to seem petty and envious. But I can only think of a couple off the top of my head that have to fuck with 70 or 80 percent boners. Most of the dudes I think of as "pornstuds" are just that. Their ability to get and maintain wood with all the distractions there can be on a set is almost superhuman.
ninja1
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Posted - Dec 17 2010 : 1:57PM
Bingo. There's more than a couple of them. It's not envy or talking smack; I've never considered it a dream job. I'm just saying there must be some other important criteria in the mix which allows those guys to get away with it.
raybbaby
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Sarah knows why Barack won!
482 Posts
12/09
Posted - Dec 17 2010 : 2:26PM
The only other factor is probably how well those dudes are liked by the girls. If you are fat, smelly, dirty, and most importantly, disrespectful,rude and/or mean, rock hard boners will only get you work out on the fringes of the industry.
The Ghost of Cal Jammer
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Posted - Dec 17 2010 : 2:36PM
Jack Napier is soft. Always. He was soft while getting a bj from Faye Reagan. That would seem impossible. But he was. He was also soft during a scene with my all-time favorite pornstar, Lindsay Kay. That was just plain insulting.
ninja1
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2939 Posts
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Posted - Dec 17 2010 : 3:38PM
^Yeah he must be one helluva nice guy, a delight to work with, an absolutely charming fellow.
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