IAFD, supporters of beastiality. Just say no. 7564 Posts 11/02
Posted - Jan 7 2005 : 12:17PM
I don't know what you know
Maybe ask Speelie why he likes "Nachoribas" movies. Or check out Jennifer Dark's scene in Rocco Animal Trainer 11 . Or ask yourself why T.T. Boy of all people focused so long and often on Brooke Ballantyne's face in her scene in 18 and Nasty #29 . Or why even an otherwise completely ordinary and forgettable scene such as between Rita Faltoyano and Steve Holmes in one the many completely forgettable RLD titles (might be 110% Natural 3 ) contains this brief moment that transcends both the limitations of the formula and the capabilities of the makers of the videos.
Making porn is easy. Making good porn is not. Likewise, watching porn is easy. Watching what you like, might not be and might require some 'work' and a close attention to details. My advice: don't be lazy as a viewer just because the makers were lazy. Unless of course you are easyly satisfied... as many here seem to be. (No, not you, Loraine.)
mason said: "Maybe my friends and I are wacky, but, there's nothing more pleasurable than having both of your holes filled at the same time."
You are all forgetting the economics- Paula Porno can easily fall asleep having her pussy licked, but is highly challenged ignoring an ass plough. Thus the huge attraction of anal.
Her food dish is in the corner in the kitchen, so that's where she usually eats (unless she manages to get a chicken wing or some such thing - then she tends to drag it to a secluded area and chow down!)
Pussy eating is a lost art. I can tell you how many videos I've seen where there is none at all.
And another thing, perhaps a bit off topic. Whoever though gaped assholes, fisting, pissing, and spitting were sexy, probably was the one who decided pussy eating wasn't necessary. Whoever introduced these ideas into porn needs a good swift kick in the nether region.
Walter thanks for the advice, I appreciate it. My problem is possibly that I pay too much attention to the details (I fully expect to have a degree in pornography very soon) and I have high expectations. I don't find watching porn that easy, I go in wanting to be entertained and turned on, prepared to suspend disbelief if I can and most times I just come away disapointed. The overwhelming sense of she does for for him and he does to her or they do to her just makes me tired. On the rare occasions where that's balanced out a little and there is a sense of a genuine exchange of pleasure, I am thrilled -- literally.
Cumwhipper your cat reference reminded me about a cat I used to have that would sneak into my neighbours house and steal food -- whatever was available. The cat once came home carrying, what horribly looked like at first glance, a severed penis. When I evetually stopped freaking out long enough to take a closer look I realised in was a raw chicken neck probably out of the neighbours roasting tray. This happened just a couple of days after the Lorena Bobitt case hit the news. I may have been a little suggestible.
Kperv, sadly there's not that many and I've mentioned on this board a few times so forgive me if sounds like a broken record...none of these are "perfect" whatever that may mean but they are scenes I have enjoyed where the exchange of pleasure seems to be the focus. Recently Nina Hartley, Sophie Evans and Jay Crew in the 2nd scene of Nina Hartley's Guide To Sex Younger Women/Older Men. Randy Spears and Chloe on the stairs in Thighs Wide Open--great handplay that leads to some hot fucking. Joel Lawrence and Friday in the final scene of Truly Nice Ass 6--enthusiastic fun scene where the perfomers seem to like each other--he can't keep his hands off her. Randy Spears and Inari Vachs in a scene from Facade--undressing, kissing, breastplay, talk, Inari wriggling those hips as only she can. Randy Spears and Syndee Steele in the final scene in Facade -- great finish rubbing between the soles of her feet. Tina Tyler, Rod Barry and Buck Jordan in the final scene of Fine Bi Me--she does Rod with a strap on while he does Buck, makes for an interesting sandwich. Marie and Jack: A Hardcore Love Story-- real lovers enjoying themselves. There are a couple scenes from an Alexander Institute film called Sexual Secrets that I like, Charlie and her husband Jonothan and a brief, gorgeous little scene where a husband and wife after lots of pussy eating "demonstrate" his finger fucking technique that gets her to orgasm and often to squirt. It's very quiet and understated but I love it.
Kperv -- young man are you looking for trouble? 'Tis a big paragraph though.
I like Thighs Wide Open, I think I bought it on the strength of Astroknight's review and a rather good description by Violet Blue (the writer). The scene on the stairs with Randy and Chloe is a lot of fun, there's just enough talk to make it sexy, enough setup/characterisation to give them a reason for being there, good camera angles, inventive use of the stairs and genuine pleasure for both.
Oh yes, please. It's been a while since a moderator last threatened me with grievous bodily harm of the best possible sort. Erm, worst of course, worst possible sort. *Ahem*
Young man? How old did you think I was? Anyway, going by your theory on compressed chronological perception, we're less than a second apart.
Yes, I read that review also. It does sound promising.
I don't know if you've read any reviews (or rants) by Pat Riley, but I meant it when I said I couldn't ask for a better seal of approval than a slamming by him. Most of my favourite porn chicks never seem up to his discerning standards. About Chloe (smoking hot IMHO) he says "Chloe-- past her sell-by date. Retire!" Another time I remember him complaining Ashley Long was too tall! WTF??? You've got to be kidding! Heathen cur.
Kperv-- you'll have to point in the direction of Pat Riley,I am ignorant of him, should I aim to remain so? I really like Chloe, she's enthusiastic,knows what she's doing, has fun and she looks amazing in thigh high latex boots.
Sorry about the "young man" thing, although compressed chronological perceptions aside, you are younger than I am. It does sounds school marmy though.
IMHO you propably should. IIRC he write a couple of books on the industry. I've never read them, so I couldn't say whether they're any good. Patrick Riley was (or is) a bit of a legend in his own lunchtime over at rec.arts.movies.erotica. Lots of people liked him. Some weren't so crazy about him. ::shrugh::
I actually hardly remember anything about the guy, so I wondered if I might be too hard on him and did a little ADT search. HoustonDon's comments on him in this thread pretty much mirror my own preconceptions.
Here is the IAFD page for Thighs Wide Open. It links to his review here.
Damn straight. And even better barefoot. Incidentally, her bio lists her almost exactly at my age.True. Anyway, don't sweat it. I most definitely didn't take offence if that's what you thought.
It was just that 'young man' coming so soon after the "under 30" thread, somehow seemed surprised to me. That made me wonder if I'd given any strong indications of being older.
If so, was it my stated preference for porn chicks who are at least in their late twenties, with 'young whippersnappers' like the British A. Long girls being the exception rather than the rule? Perhaps raving over my latest 'discovery' Alexandra Silk, who BTW looks unbelievably hot at 40 in "Sex Across America: Aspen", sealed the case?
I used to FF>> past all the preamble and get right to the rogering, but now marriage has changed that.
speaking of eating...
I thought that with the mainstream release of "Creampie for the straight guy" there would be an increase of available content for that genre. But there isn't. I can't even find a website focused on this activity. :(
I have said many times before that porn videos today should definitely have lots of pussy eating in them if they expect women to become more interested in them. There are some good looking guys in porn now, but I also want to see more men like Mark Davis and Evan Stone who actully know how to eat pussy.
I still would like to have a report from some of the women in the industry as to which guys they think are the best at eating pussy. I mean I can guess by what I think I can tell from watching, but since I am not there in person it is just my opinon. I would say:
I'm also a fan of seeing girls getting their pussy eaten. I like hearing the moans and seeing their body react to it. Especially if she ends up having an orgasm from it.
As a Dominatrice / performer turned director I am very into facesitting and I include it in 90% of my scenes. I love straddling a guys face and forcing him to make me wet and lick me clean! VB
Back when I first discovered the contents of women's pants I also learned a term for female face sitting . Queening . Gotta be a porn title in that , surely .Fucking spoilt cat !
I love eating pussy, whether I'm at work or on my own time. Most of the time, directors need to pry my mouth off of the girl's clit with a crowbar...
I shot a loooooooooong exteneded scene where I ate Zoe Matthew's pussy in psychocandy vol.1. In the editing room, I had to cut it down to a little more than 7 minutes, but I would strongly suggest that if you like Zoe, you check it out... lots of the surviving footage is a close-up on the look on her face, and how her shoulders and tits shook violently when she came... Beautiful stuff.
PS I am amazed when I work as talent on other producers content, how much of the pussylicking gets left out, and how much of the cocksucking gets left in. We should create a boy/girl cunnilingus niche.
Why not just expand some of the already oral-centric lines and give cunnilingus equal time? Can you imagine an installment of Feeding Frenzy where all the guys take turns going down on the gal as part of the scene - that would be really hot - and if done right, it might inspire an even more intense performance from the actress!
Yes this would be a good fantasy sequence that a lot of women might enjoy - a group of guys giving them pleasure. And that reminds me - when is that "female porn" video with Julian etc. that focuses more on that type of thing coming out? I read about it here last year I think.
First consumers have to prove to the distribution outlets that there are people out there that want to see cunt eating.
Sometimes I've seen still art galleries from a release that has great m/f pussy eating, and then I see the movie and what was at least ten minutes of screne time (by the stills) was cut down to a minute or two and the rest of the scene is either straight fucking, or cock sucking.
Places like ADT are important, because the more directors check out the posts or people's likes, dislikes and what the are ready to shell out for will help porn become more democratic.
I like to see scenes that feel real, and that have some form of intense interaction between the talent in them. The Kirkoves turn out films like these. There are some great scenes in Jill Kelly movies, and in many other films. There's even a bedroom scene in the Britney Rears flim where she and her partner look like they're really and truly enjoying themselves. I loved the still from that one so much that I sent it to my SO with a m.a.s.h. note, because it was so hot. LOL
Real people that are not trying to keep with the "new porn" standard of trying so freaking hard not to touch each other that all you see are disembodied parts is hot!
Most men hate to look at M/F oral. You gotta look at another guy's face, tongue, nose, etc, positively revolting. Scariest thing I have ever seen in porn is Rodney Moore eating pussy. Horrible, disgusting, sight.
I was just watching Bamboo's scene in Luv Dat Asian Azz 2 and thinking to myself, 'Now there's a guy who wants that pussy in his face. Looks like both of them are enjoying it." That worked for me.
I remembered this thread the other day when I watched/reviewed Rodney's Hairy Horny Girls 11 - I actually thought Rodney was sort of cute and ate pussy with a genuine enthusiasm and apparent enjoyment I rarely see on screen. There's no tongue stabbing crappola, just lots of nice to watch leisurely, wet, lip sucking action and mouth to pussy resusciation. My only complaint is the lack of shots of the woman's face - very limited camera work from good old Rodney. Fun flick though. Review on the way.
I just got "Women On Top of Men" from The Venus Girls and Henri Pachard. I haven't seen the whole thing yet, but I did see parts of it and two of the scenes have a lot of pussy eating ... a lot.
Paying trib-ute to SinncentVanSage 1412 Posts 12/04
Posted - Nov 5 2005 : 7:01PM
Maybe I shouldn't keep you all in the dark any longer and finally reveal the truth: Yes, I do love pussy eating. If you do too, I can only recommend this movie. It's a g/g compilation and... hey, come back, it doesn't bite! Well, I love it, and if you know it and can recommend anything similar please tell me. Thanks.
Best tongue in the business belongs to Jean Val Jean. That guy knows what he is doing. He's better at it than any female I've seen do it. Loraine, you'd like his style. He's all about about softness, sensuality and finesse. And I also love the way Julian does it. He sucks the clit, which is niiiiiice.
I don't see enough cunningilus in movies lately. Maybe in features, but not in gonzo, which I prefer for the more aggressive style of sex. Gonzo's all about male pleasure, and more importantly male entertainment. If the female performer happens to cum, good for her. I don't see many of the male performers going out of their way to administer female orgasms. And when they happen, most of the time you don't get to see the woman's face. It's total bullshit. Maybe more women would watch outrageous gonzo with their men if they could see some feminine pleasure on the screen once in a blue moon.
I mean can't a guy dominate a girl and pleasure her at the same time? Pin her legs open and lick her until she can't stop screaming from all the climaxes? Maybe another guy could cover up her mouth, and another hold her hands behind her back. Holy shit, that'd be hot. I'd buy that.
The kind of pussy eating I like and I like to watch is really probably not that cinematic or possibly terribly interesting for the average male porn viewer as it would result in seeing a lot of the back of the guys head as he burrows his face into the pussy in question, thereby obscuring the view.
Loraine, I'm with you. I want to see her clamp her thighs around his head and fist her hands in his hair. She should be writhing all over the place if the guy's doing it right. I don't care if I see every minute detail. I get off on the girl's reaction, and for that I need to see her whole body, including her face (I sound like a broken record).
For exemplary cunningilus, check out a movie called "Panty Raid." Yes, it's made by Vivid, but scene two is where it's at. Jean Valjean has Dasha literally climbing the walls, and from what I could tell, her reaction was genuine. Gentlemen, watch this scene many, many times, and take detailed notes.
as already said in the poll from Tall Goddess, that I'd like a fetish series about pussy eating, muff diving, face sitting, in whatever form, as those are the seldom scenes I am sure the actresses really enjoy. Seeing the man is not a turn off to me. Not seeing the pussy is also no negative factor. Just because no genitals are seen that wouldn't make it softcore. That would also hold true for everything else. Pure close ups of cocks sliding in and out of any woman's hole has been seen so often and so much, that get's rather boring rather soon, if variety is missing.
Unfortunately lesbian licking mostly is is no substitute for me, as it mostly turns me off or I don't care. Lesbian scenes turning me on are very rare. Not that I'm disgusted by lesbian scenes, but the argument often given, that women know better, what women like, is nonsense. Then I could also watch gay porn because men know better what men like. Each knows best what he/she likes and this differs from person to person.
Longer pussy eating scenes, as a fetish special or within feature porn, is a niche, that should not wait for the demand to rise. I'd say there already is more demand than for other fetishes, which are marketed.
Finally two scenes come to my mind: 1. a scene of "ice woman 2". Don't ask me for their names 2. a scene between Nina Hartley and Toni Tedeschi. Don't know the title, but it also has Rachel Ryan, Elle Rio and Francoise Papillon in it. Surely never be converted to DVD.
Although both titles are not recommendable elsewise.
A third: Wasn't there good pussy eating in Love's Passion? I remember there was even some comment on the scene in the commentary audio track.
The most pussy eating scenes per movie I found in cheap gonzo movies. Even in the "Girls who suck cock and eat cum", which would better be called "cheap porn". It seems they are cheap because of that. Unfortunately that pussy eating is also lame and too short.
Posted - Jan 6 2005 : 10:59AM