I think Justin Slayer is ending the Black Piper Layer series to started a new IR series by his own. You nerve know that these girl will go to the darkside in 2007.
Kinzie Kenner Harmony Riley Shy Nikki Benz Memphis Monroe
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matricks Deactivated User
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Posted - Dec 28 2006 : 6:23PM
You guys need to do more research on pornstars before you even wish for anything. Most of the girls mentioned so far are either retired, OR strictly on contract that is anti-IR,or is aspiring to be the next JENNA JAMESON. This means forget about most of them.
Here is a realistic list of girls who may step up.
Brooke Haven Harmony Jesse Jane- If she gets off her contract. And a lot of the young girls who don't aspire to be the next JENNA. So you can forget about Nikki Benz coz she is aspiring to succeed Jenna. This is some food for thought.
Tory Lane Regan Reese Riley Mason (actually, I guess that's coming soon isn't it?) Presley Maddox Ginger Lea Kristal Summers Vicky Vette Candy Manson Penny Flame Stormy
oh, and don't rule out those contract starts just yet Julia Ann just did one and Janine did 2 before she retired again it's a looooooooooooooong shot, (especially considering those two had been around for years anyway)but you never know
The criteria of the original post states first IR scenes, this doesn't suggest that the starlet has to be currently active or likely to perform in an IR scene, therefore whats realistic to you and what others wish for are to distinct things.
ok, yeah, that'd be about my list as well. And thank the Lord if you're right about Riley...
And now...THERE'S ABSOLUTELY. NO. TURNING. BACK. Muuuuuuuhahahahahahaha...and I'm through.
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matricks Deactivated User
australia 136 Posts 5/06
Posted - Dec 28 2006 : 11:46PM
I do understand what you mean by wish,but its better to wish for something that is realistic than wish for something that will never happen. For example some of the mentioned names may be strongly against IR for personal/political/professional/family reasons.So I feel its pointless wishing for something that won't happen. Anyways thanks for your reply.
Edited by - matricks on 12/28/2006 11:47:57 PM
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Posted - Dec 28 2006 : 11:49PM
Kristal Summers is back and hope she could work with Slayer,coz I can't be botherd to watch her romps with Sean Micheals.
Would like to see a Riley Mason and Shane Diesel scene.
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167 Posts 11/06
Posted - Dec 29 2006 : 6:09PM
Jesse Jane isn't serious about IR. Lex gave an interview for rogreviews where he talks about her being full of it on that issue.
Tera Patrick - We all know the answer to this one.
Brooke Haven - Doubt it.
Nikki Benz - Never heard of her but I think Stormy will probably be the one most likely to succeed Jenna not someone like Benz who is adult starlet #102930 who wants to follow in Jenna's footsteps.
Tory Lane - She does meatholes but somehow IR is unacceptable. I think that tells us everything we need to know about her.
Amy Reid Jesse Jane Tera Patrick Devon Tawny Roberts Jessica Jaymes Carmella Bing
Edited by - Jack Remington on 12/29/2006 10:19:00 PM
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matricks Deactivated User
australia 136 Posts 5/06
Posted - Dec 30 2006 : 1:04AM
Well Lex was simply being himself on that interview. What he MEANT was,he had not been contacted about possibilty of that pairing.He also said he would not want to work with her on their terms,coz they would reap a lot of profits from him. In another interview she did with LONDOCAT,she said she now wanted to work with MARCUS. I feal she has nothing personal against it,but is caught between a rock and a hard place.
Cindy Crawford was like Tory Lane for several years.She did every hardcore/degrading act imaginable but refused IR. Now at the tail end of her carreer,she is now doing IR. Politics sucks.
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Posted - Dec 30 2006 : 1:24AM
Amy Reed---Has left the business. Devon......Are you kidding me? Did you not read about the Black Kat Debacle?
Mayebe Camelia Bing,but forget about the rest. Tawny Roberts......Another Jenna Jameson wanabe.
It seems a matter of money to me they simply find Lex to be too expensive to hire at least they thonk so or, which is the same, Lex thinks they pay too less for him so JJ suggest another star whether Mr Marcus is cheaper than Lex I don't know but I believe that is the situation
Anyway whatever is the reason , racism,money or lack of work I don't think I would like a scene with people forced for any reason to do something they don't like to do or they don't feel comfortable when doing it or at least they won't do in they life
Though I'd liked to see Taylor Rain with Mandingo or Lex or them both together possibly in a DAP , she surely was able to take them both anally. This didn't happened unfortunately but it was her choice.
Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 12/30/2006 1:57:03 AM
Hey, I didn't say I thought any of them would ever do IR, I was just answering who I would like see do IR. I doubt any of them ever will.
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T0201 Deactivated User
167 Posts 11/06
Posted - Dec 30 2006 : 2:34AM
Well I don't know what he meant I only know what he said in the interview.
The section of the interview where the Jesse Jane issue is talked about:
Rogreview: In Vegas I interviewed Digital Playground contract girl Jesse Jane and she said that you are on her list of performers to do a scene with. Are you aware of this and have you been approached by them to do a scene that we all know would be awesome?
Lex: First of all Digital Playground wouldn't do the scene. I don't know if they even hire men of color. They are one of those companies like Vivid or VCA who won't hire black men. I don't think they would hire me anyway. That said, if Jesse Jane is saying she would like to work with me I appreciate that. She is a very cute girl and I have seen some of her work. However I know for a fact that it's a crock of bullshit. I have been in a work environment with Jesse Jane and her policy toward working with black men was very evident. I know definitively that anything in the media is a total misrepresentation of her true feelings. If given the opportunity to work with a black man she wouldn't. If she says she would, that is bullshit. A lot of contract girls feel that way and that's fine. There are plenty of people for us to work with, but don't misrepresent yourself in the media. Don't use my name to get some hype for yourself and your company. I don't need to bullshit.
Rogreview: So you are saying that what she told me was bullshit. I will ask the question though. If Jesse Jane were to call you up to do a scene would you do it?
Lex: Absolutely not. It's nothing personal against Jesse, but I am no longer going to put another scene out there for a company who can make more money from it than I will. Digital Playground would not allow me to participate in the revenues. Now that I own my own company I have seen what goes on behind the scenes. There is a demonstrative difference between the money made by talent and the money made by the companies. I think that talent needs to make more money.
Anyway what said about DP not hiring black malents is not true , I own a DVD with Janine and 2 black males Mrs Behavin' they're even on the cover , so DP do hire Afro males if there's an actual request to or if there's no request they propose afro men to their stars and see what happens , note that one of the two with Janine was Mandingo which is not easy to handle
I have to admit all my favorite stars are already doing interracial so I have no reason to worry too much about all those who don't. It becomes sad if for some reason they stop doing interracial like in the case of Shyla Stylez from what I read.
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matricks Deactivated User
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Posted - Dec 30 2006 : 11:50PM
That token movie Mrs.Behavin has been discussed and shot down already. In case you don't know ,the film was meant to be a propaganda film,and nothing else. Janine was a Faded star who was old,devorced and broke. She requested doing IR coz she wanted to piss off her ex hubby ,and she also wanted one last huge paycheck. Even though DP,don't normally hire BM,they made an exception in her case coz they had nothing to lose and everything to gain.So they reluctantly agreed to hire Black males and made a simulated scene.DP made such unprecedented hype about that Film and fans were duped.The film itself was just awfull,many fans have said so. Now I hope you get the full picture ,okidoki!
I had been a fan of them for some years,until I received a Survey from them asking for what fans want.Every genre was coverd in that survey except for only one. You guessed it,they excluded IR on their survey.Even though they hire BF,they are strongly against BM. What more proof do you want?
You know all that for sure or or you figured out that picture by yourself? Since this Whole thing seems to me flaw in a way , I mean IF they don't hire BM they're racists and if they do that is propaganda so they're racists anyway. It's like medioeval trials you might confess your crimes so you were guilty and if you didn't you were considered hiding the truth and again you were guilty. Was all that political issue declared somewhere or that was any solid proof of that? did Janine at least stated it? If they "reluctantly agreed" why they hired Mandingo? I don't think he's the cheaper guy in the biz. The scene was dull? that's an opinion of yours and it's true not for that scene only but for the entire movie because of the music all around, no talking , no sounds only music all the way , it's not a good movie containing a ugly scene it is the movie itself to be bad. You're saying they willingly put out a bad movie because they won't sell it because it was only propaganda? To whom? If their regular customers won't buy IR movies then who would buy that movie? If they know their regular customer might refuse IR then why they would risk to lose them by putting the whole thing on the cover? and why they would risk to lose some customers forever because they might think DP is becoming an IR company? It's all fool they want make money they spend money in order to gain more than that, they don't need that propaganda they already are one of the biggest company no matter if people say they're racists , they don't need to do such thing which after all exalts all the voices of their racism. I don't think it was propaganda it was a bad movie and that's all. above is a post of T0201 with an interview of Lex here it is:source here
It seems to me a matter of money not racism , besides one of them is a liar Jesse Jane says he is in her personal list of agreed male stars , he says it's not true because he knows her racist policy wery well and he won't absolutely work with her Then he says he wants a lot of money and they won't give him the revenues he wants.
There's no evidence of a racist behaviour on that since the first part of it it's not true they did hire BM and this is a fact
Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 12/31/2006 3:48:54 AM
Has anyone ever asked Tory Lane about her position on IR? Is it more of a 'I'm not really attracted to any black performers' position, or more of a Taylor Rain position on this?
With realistic CGI technology, one day we will all be able to see a pretty convincing simulation of all our favourite stars doing IR. In the case of Taylor Rain, it'll be the sweetest irony.
Allot of these girls have fans who are in the AB or Nazi Low Riders who remind them to stay true to their white race.And some of these girls grew up in that world and have friends who are in that life.I'M sure Alexa Von Tess is one of these such girls.As for Jenna Jameson she grew up in the outlaw biker world so that explains her reason And some girls where just taught from the cradle that's something you don't do.And others give that line "I have had sex with black men in my personal life but not on camera"and some say that black guys are to big.If you enjoy watching IR sex cool it shouldn't be about race but chemistry.I myself being a Italian american male just like to see beautiful girls rock a scene whether they are black,white etc.It's just sex after all....
I could be wrong but in this case I think IR = Black Man.
Otherwise Taylor Rain also already did IR with Rick Lee.
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Posted - Dec 31 2006 : 8:30PM
So he knows what she's really like and he would want a cut of the profits with DP. Two equally valid reasons to justify not dealing with her or that company.
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matricks Deactivated User
australia 136 Posts 5/06
Posted - Jan 1 2007 : 6:58AM
Let me break it down one last time,and its up to you to decide after this. 1.In an interview with Londo-cat Janine did say the company was reluctant to let her do IR. 2.At the time of casting ,Mandingo was not yet a big name since he was still paying his dues at West Coast Productions.So hiring him for that movie was not too costly at that time. 3.They put the IR on the Boxcover making it look as if they were pro-IR,but yet the IR was flawed badly. 4.Since Janine was old,and was on her way out,they had nothing to lose and so they made the film.They created hype in order to cash in from some naive IR fans.In other words they cashed in from a faded star doing IR,got the picture. 5.They would not allow any of their young girls to do IR,even if they requested,coz DP believes IR will lower the value of their girls.So to keep their stocks high,they shun them from IR. 6.In an interview, Jesse Jane said she gives directors a list of guys she wants to work with,and she has included BM on that list.But the BM never get cast. 7.DP frequently casts BF to work with WM,but never cast BM,now that is a 1940s mentality. What nore proof do you want?
God willing, nobody will ever have a Taylor Rain position on IR, because they will have legally smoked themselves retarded, forgetting that they fucked Lloyd Banks of G-Unit a few months earlier...
Well some big names will do IR in 2007 like Sannavn with Sannavn Blackmailed from Vivid which will be out this year. You nerve who will do IR but I would love to see Tory Lane do it.
Wouldn't be surprised. I heard rumours that Vicky Vette was affiliated with KKK, but her agent denied the rumours saying that it was her busband. Although Vette didn't say anything.
This society is just different. You got beautiful Euros like Angel Dark, Silvia Saint and Lucy Lee doing IR and it aint no big deal, its just sex. Theres too many amazing girls doing IR to be worried about the tiny few who dont IMO.
But I agree with one of the original poster in this thread that I wouldn't want to see a scene like the two are forced to do it. If the girl doesn't want to do it, its her choice and I think Lex had some good points as well as for his reasons.
I'd like to see however Karina Kay Terri Summers
Edited by - Spoonbender on 1/3/2007 12:08:12 AM
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australia 136 Posts 5/06
Posted - Jan 3 2007 : 8:35AM
There is a disconected cable between Taylor Rain's mouth and brain.Coz she always talks before she thinks,It should be the other way round. Tory LANE may have mentioned the size issue,but she has worked with LEE STONE,BILLY GLIDE etc and yet they are bigger than 80% of the black male talent. Lets just say she may have a Taylor Rain mentality,or a young Cindy Crawford. I feel its the later.
Posted - Dec 21 2006 : 8:56AM
