Whether this is 'pushing the boundries too far' is a very personal matter, I personally don't like it, but then I don't like an antagonistic angle to IR porn in any form. But to each his or her own.

Interracial porn, whether BM-WF or WM-BF (or some other combination) is fine, but 'racist' themes spoil the fun for me.

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As for racial-themed porn, it's already bad enough that there is racist ignorance to have to go through in the real world. Do we really need to see it in porn too? There are already enough studios and performers whose movies I no longer watch just for this reason. I'd really hate to have to add even more to that list. For an industry that is supposed to be so liberal and open, alot of porn still seems stuck in the Middle Ages when it comes to the issue of overcoming racism. This needs to improve, and not become worse than what it already is.

But anyway, I think people who look for this stuff in porn really need to learn what it's like to experience racism firsthand. Then, maybe they won't be so drawn to fantasizing about it so much. And No, glen73, I cannot imagine that any black pornstar in his/her right mind would be interested in demeaning themselves "just for the thrill of it."

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or maybe I missed the 'white' part in my exitement there... bummer...

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I give respect to Jules Jordan for being one of the only directors with an honest IR line; Once you go black.

Because this is one of the only movies were the white girls arnt the "victims", they do it because the acctualy like black guys.

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If people have issues with certain types of porn - THEN DON'T WATCH IT!!!!

but PLEASE don't come here on the soapbox trying to give some self-righteous sermon to people you don't even know...

different people get off on different things - THAT IS THE WHOLE NATURE OF PORN.

Some people don't like gonzo. Some people don't like "age-play" or teen themes. Some people don't like gangbangs. Some people don't like swallow or facials. Some people don't even like porn itself!!

Anyways, personally speaking I like taboo subjects. I find them exciting and interesting. I am Italian, and date mostly black women. Many black women love to be called the "n word" in the bedroom.

For example, it's not just MEN, who enjoy "age-play". Some women love to play "daddy's little girl".

Personally I would LOVE to see this angle explored, by some people who are bold enough to deal with the hand-wringing whiners like "realtip" and that crowd.

It doesn't have to be KKK shit neccessarily.. I would just like to see an urban black woman having sex with a white guy in a suit in an office, with the emphasis on the "black-white" issue.

Or I would love to see a black woman come to the office in an overcoat hired as entertainment for a board meeting... and under the coat she has a red, white & blue bikini or body paint (red, white & blue lipstick and face paint would be tight), and then proceed to play out the "sell out" factor.

This angle is already explored plenty in a subliminal way, with series like "Black Street Hookers", "White Boy Stomp" and many others..... as well as the similar series with the black guys and white women (though I can't think of those titles off the top of my head).

I would just like to see us get past the WEAK and fragile mindsets exhibited by realtip, so that the rest of us who don't have the personal issues can enjoy - ENTERTAINMENT.

(I capitalize entertainment, because that is what porn is)

Last tip for "realtip" -

if you want to bang your drum for racism issues? take that mess where it belongs, which is some politics forum... PLEASE! This forum is for people who enjoy porn.

If it ain't YOUR thing? That's cool, but don't have the nerve to wave your finger and point at the rest of us.

Who the phuck are YOU to judge me or anyone????

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And Yes, I do also like porn. And I do like IR, but not just because it's IR. For example, one of my favorite pornos is "Lex the Impaler #2." That would definitely go on my Top 10 Porn list. But I like this movie not because it's an IR movie, but just because it's damn good. Personally, I think anybody who still gets off on IR sex just in itself needs to grow the fuck up. It's just people fucking!! What difference does it make if they are of different complexions? This is why I love Sineplex/Sinsational so much. Their movies have alot of IR sex, but they don't have to keep beating the viewers over the head with the fact that it's IR, and they also don't focus on all these dumbass stereotypes either. The sooner people get over IR sex being somehow "taboo," the better. That strikes me as an 18th-century idea, not a 21st-century one.

Ramsey wrote

I'm all for entertainment and for people being able to watch whatever they want. But racism, to me, is not "entertainment," neither do I think it's "politically correct" to acknowledge this.

But hey, Niteflyer is right: Who am I to judge? If people want to get off on seeing pornographers make a mockery out of a history of barbaric brutality and atrocious dehumanization, then who am I to deprive them of this?

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oh would you just get off your soapbox already???

haven't you got anything better to do?

Believe me realtip, my panties ain't in a binge... it's just that I'd like to see a discussion take place here, without hand-wringers like yourself pissing all over it trying to stop it.

Yes this is a public forum..... but this is a public PORN-based forum!

Just in case you haven't checked the top of your browser lately. Perhaps you have this URL confused with some political site you frequent.

I can get off on edgy race-based angles, for reasons other than "to make a mockery out of a history of barbaric brutality and atrocious dehumanization "..........

the same way I can get off on the mildest soft-core porn, for reasons other than "to make a mockery out of Christian or marriage-based values".

I really don't give a fuck if YOU are offended by this type of porn. As long as no one is being forced to do anything and no one is being hurt, you shouldn't have a problem with it, because you have the freedom not to watch or patronize it.

Sounds to me like it's YOU who has their panties binged.

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Also, there was something you wrote earlier that I forgot to address in my previous post.
You wrote

On that note, I saw a movie entitled "My Daughter's Fucking Blackzilla." In the first scene starring Shane Diesel and Eva Angelina, Shane and the cameraman repeatedly tell Eva to say how it feels to fuck a ****** (and yes, I censored myself). I know I don't exactly have a reputation around here for regularly complimenting porn girls on their elegance, but I have immense respect for Eva following that scene. Why? Because she refused to say it, even though the other actresses in the movie did. I even had more respect for her than I did for the two lame dudes who kept trying to get her to say it. No matter how much they insisted that she say it, she repeatedly refused to say it, and she never did. She is what I consider to be one beautiful, classy and respectable pornchick. Needless to say, after I learned that having the girls say this is a regular part of the series, I never bothered to watch anymore installments of the series after that.

I'm off my soapbox now.

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Some people like to talk dirty. Some people like to talk rough. Some people enjoy rough sex and being slapped in the face. I sometimes enjoy when a woman slaps ME, or chokes me for being too crude.

This is ADULT fun. Different strokes for different folks.

The ones who like to talk rough will call me "whiteboy" or "cracker" usually, but there are some other terms, and "son-of-a-bitch" is thrown in there sometimes.

There are however, some differences that can make things very interesting and exciting. Some of these differences are genetic, and some are just background and societal conditioning (and also societal ignorances).

When it comes to just sex or being a freak, I think people focus on the more shallow things.

When it comes to real interaction or a relationship, that's when you focus on just who somebody is as an individual.

See, that is why some people can engage in "adult fun" in the bedroom, and also keep that in it's proper context, without letting it disturb their whole mind and emotions.

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By the way, my fiance is a black woman, and doesn't have any such suspicions or concerns.

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Hardware hit the nail head-on. Pornographers have the right to film whatever they (legally) desire...and the audience has the right to agree/disagree or even protest. For me, its only fantasy and I have actually enjoyed some of the more racially-charged scenes.

I remember a long time ago, I had scene some Adriana Jollee stuff and was not so impressed with her. I also found one of her gang-bangs done during the AIDs scare to be insensitive and dangerous...at first. Then I saw a scene she id (and I believe directed) that involved her both abusing and being abused by some Black men. The dialogue was definitely risque and provocative, but I began to actually think that she was making an interesting artistic point...and bottom line she was enjoying herself and expressing herself sexually in a manner that was very enjoyable to me .

After that I re-read her response to a post I had written and found myself agreeing with her...

Its art...its fantasy...it is whatever it is to whomever views it. We all have right to our own opinions, but I wouldn't denigrate anyone based on how they felt about the subject.

JAG over and out...

"the poor woman's Mandingo "

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Just want to make sure I'm understanding you correctly...

see I totally agree with the whole "freedom of expression of opinion" thing, but if somebody denigrates me in the process of expressing their opinion, I don't see how there can be any complaint when the response is done in the same manner.

On a side note, I wonder if realtip and Ordell are suspicious of the men who call women "bitch" and "whore" and "slut"?

Just wondering....

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Think about this way, if someone calls a guy an "asshole" or a woman a "slut," they are insulting them as individuals, but if someone calls them by a racial slur, they are not insulting the person based on individual character, but based simply on race which he has no control over.

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There are some men who think all women are bitches, just like there are some women who think all men are dogs.

I don't think I'd find the thought police as prevalent there, though there was probably a time in the past where there were women's rights advocates banging their drum the same way that you are now.

I know what is "politically correct", but personally I just don't give a fuck - ESPECIALLY when it comes to issues like adult entertainment, which people have the CHOICE to view or not.

People are going to DO what they want to do my friend, and there is no amount of "thought policing" you can do to stop them.

You can hold all the witch-hunts you want....

Now I don't have time to sit here and play tit for tat all day long with you, just wanted to show you that politics don't have to enter in the bedroom, and the privacy of someone's home.

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What we now call "politically correct" used to be called something else- Respect. But then, the term "politically correct" was invented to make it fashionable to have no respect for other cultures or backgrounds, and basically give people a good excuse to remain closed-minded and ignorant. It's amazing how many people love to take advantage of that excuse.

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I'm a grown azz man and when I'm in my own home I can say what the fuck I want to.

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mod hat... ON!!!

Locked.

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