You do have a point though. Most of the regularly used black male performers are pretty weak shooters.

Yes, it's frustrating, but unfortunately there's nothing we as fans can do about it.

We have two choices, don't buy the product, or buy the product and complain. Most people do the latter, so directors will never change the guys they hire, because they are selling the product.

-PornoPunK

Edited by - pornopunk on 3/22/2006 5:26:38 AM

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As a long time porn watcher, (and as a brother, smile), I can say that there is something to this and it is noticable.

Don't think it would be biologically or physiologically based, and it shouldn't be genetic, so I don't really know the answer. I think it might be a function of the guys working too much.

I've noticed that for the most part, the brothers in the "Throat Gaggers", "Baker's Dozen", "1 Lucky Fuck", etc.. , the ones that deliver the bigger loads, are NOT part of the crew of about 12-15 usual suspects brothers that do almost all of the professional interracial and black-themed porn work. Both of these genres have really blown up in recent years, and the same guys seem to do most of the work. Maybe they are just not getting enough recovery time. There are a couple of brothers who seem to bring the rain pretty good, that I ONLY see in those RLD and PXP cum fiestas.

I know that some white guys work a lot in porn as well, but I can't think of any other reason.

BSD

Edited by - BSD on 3/22/2006 7:01:25 AM

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Mandingo has SUCH a small load.... its embarrassing!

Most guys could stroke 5 times in one day, and still have a bigger load then that guy.

Well, Joey Silvera has a new all black, blowjob movie comming out called "black cock addiction". All the best black shooter should be in their.

Trailer and promo box

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Yeah, but the problem with all three of those guys, (Pumper, Tee Reel and Mandingo), is that they are lousy, snore-inducing fucks.

Viewers are in an anesthetized coma long before you get to the cumshot with those three. Unless you've been hard on the fast forward button. Especially with Pumper and Mandingo.

BSD

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I know you dig feet, and for the love of me, I don't get it, but you don't see me questioning your likes when you post in thread pertaining to such

Another guy I would add to the list is Max Black. The man has a horse cock but he only dribbles a little cum and he's done.

"What? The land of the free? Whoever told you that is your enemy" - RATM

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I like to tell myself that because the load has a longer distance to travel, it loses some momentum once it finally makes its exit.

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What I DO know, is that there are certain male performers who I just can't stand, and Wesley Pipes is one of them.

Dude gets scenes with some of the hottest chicks, and it's to the point where I have lost all hope and don't even bother to skim through, I just click to the next scene.

Someone should do a post on the male peformers (black, white, whatever) who make potentially hot scenes bunk.

If people don't think the caliber of the male performer is important, then they don't know porn.

Maybe the competition among the male stars (as well as the pay scales) needs to increase?!!

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I'm the same way about dps. I've never understood why straight guys would wnat to see more dicks than pussy in a scene.

It's hard to explain what turns us on, we just know it when it happens...

-PornoPunK

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Some guys do seem be regular offenders in the "where's the cum" dept. of weak loads. (apologies to von Swine for co-opting that title!). Sometimes it's literally like they're squeezing out a single drop of cum. It can get pretty ridiculous. And Sean Michaels really does fall into this category pretty often. Brandon sometimes has a very small load, but he is very good at strategically placing that thick dollop of cream in the best possible place - like the tip of Tiffany Rayne's nose in Throat Gaggers #9, for example!

I also agree that many of the black guys in von Swine's "Mope Squad" really do deliver the goods more often than not - witness in particular some of the massive loads Lefty LaRue has delivered in various scenes for Good Source of Iron. Extra chunky!

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Matthew 26:41: "The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak."

Wish I knew then what I know now...

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Well, I'm no professional meat master but I'm a reasonably healthy guy and even though I can rub out three or four in a day, that "Northian blast" of "Jordanesque" proportions, the one that knocks your girl down or goes clean over her head and out the window, is about a once a week thing*. And that's with nothing happening the day before or the day after. And a good diet and a lot of sleep.

All these guys that are knee deep in porn puss every other day, must be working with some pretty low reservoirs after awhile.

BSD

* - Had one of those today. Courtesy of Miss Velicity Von in Housewives Gone Black #5" .

I am going to marry that gal.

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Seriously, though, it is tough. You never know exactly how often you are going to work. Some guys can do it daily. Some less frequently. I wish I could do better myself but then I realize it's kind of like being in Hawaii and complaining about the sun being too hot.

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I know, I saw that scene a few weeks ago you lucky bastard! As a matter of fact, I think Jake Malone and I might have discussed it in here a little while back.

Oh the sacrifices you guys make for us. Somebody's gotta do it.

Smile.

BSD

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But one dude I can't stand now is Nat Turner. Unfortunately, being an ass fan, a lot of the big butt series have this bitch doing the majority of the work, and I'm getting pretty sick of it.

Sorry for getting off topic. You all can go back to cumshots.

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I understand criticism comes part and parcel with putting out a product but I have nothing but respect for anyone who stays in the game.

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Bottom line: Cut the male performers some slack, OK?

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Don't share your view Dawg, as to the general tenor of this topic and thread being stereotypical.

Aside from the topic title, (with which I believe the author was being facetious and clever just to bring attention to the topic), and Dick Head's comment which I took as an attempt at humor, I think this had been a pretty balanced and mature discussion, with few generalizations and no greater significance attached to it. Which is pretty rare in discussions where race is a component.

The discussion related to porn stars only, and many posters, black and white, submitted anecdotal evidence or informed opinion based on their own observations, to support the issue that is the main theme of the thread.

Additionally, people then considered real reasons for this phenomenon that most agreed does exist in the professional porn world. Reasons that all agree must exist outside of the issue of race. Dick Head's and C.J.'s humorous asides notwithstanding. I could be wrong, but I don't think anyone in this discussion truly believes that blacks in general cum less than whites, based upon what they've observed in porn flicks.

I've been involved in a few discussion in here where race was a central theme, and they very quickly did dissolve into stereotype and mischaracterizations, followed by general stupidity and rancor.

This was not one of those discussions.

At least, not yet.

Smile.

BSD

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I see just as many white guys (if not more) in movies. That said I honestly don't watch much porn even though I have strangely ended up with shit loads of it! However there are white guys I see a fair bit that seem to do just fine!

I think it has something to do with the individual as well as work load (no punn intended [:p)]). Some guys produce more cum than other guys.

As for the attraction of the cum shot - I am straight but I like to see a girl get a good facial or cream pie, and it's particularly important if there is some emphasis on the girls swallowing. For me it's a satisfying end to any scene.

Edited by - joel on 3/23/2006 5:59:47 PM

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Part of me think there is something to the "overworked" idea. There are still less Black males working overall on any given day then non-Blacks - therefore we tend to see the same few and they may in fact be working too much. I have definitely noticed it with both Sean Michaels and Mandingo. However, guys like Justin Slayer seem to do aight...and I have even oticed that some of the more poridigious loads seem to be coming from Black performers that I am not so familiar with.

For myself, the size of the load matters much less than the quality of the action - and ALL of these guys has impressed me at some point ot other with a great scene or two - so I could care less.

Its an interesting observation, either way

"the poor woman's Mandingo "

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{{singing to self}}
"ADT will overcome...one day soon "

"the poor woman's Mandingo "

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For however long I do this business, I will be eternally grateful that girls accept rectangular pieces of paper for a good time.

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Either way I think some guys in the business probably jerk off a half / full day before shooting a scene just so they can last on camera, popping too early is always a concern unless you're into premature ejaculation porn.

I personally haven't really noticed a difference between loads based on the ethnicity of the dude.

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