Anybody know any white on black rape porn? Preferably white male on black female rape porn but if it's a white male on black male rape porn then that's ok too... Edited by - NaughtyNegress on Mar 24 2013
I don't think you'll find much and that's even if you are looking for simulated rape. I know Kink has bound gangbang and it's replacement hardcore gangbang but the number of scenes with black female and all vwhite male or white female with all bacl men is going to be quite small. Now if you don't mind a mix then you'll have a lot more options. be advised that this is bordeline simulated rape since shooting very intense simulated rape is not a goood idea.
They don't portray rape, but GhettoGaggers.com might be of interest to OP. It is white men on black women, and has rough/degrading action. The women don't resist or fight back. I think it's supposed to be a 'psychological challenge/endurance' sort of thing.
Don't know of anything like what you describe but your best bet would be to look for forced sex roleplay videos where the performer who plays the victim happens to be black, you can probably find them on nicheclips or maybe clips4sale. ____________________________ Please ID these PlayboyTV girls https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/playboytv-foursome-identification-thread/ Edited by - hoochimama on 3/25/2013 11:33:24 PM
^I've never heard of nicheclips. I went to nicheclips.com; and you can't see anything without logging in. And it costs $20 (check, cash or money order) to activate your account. So, they expect people to pay them $20, sight unseen. Sounds extremely shady to me. Edited by - NINJA1 on 3/26/2013 12:04:21 AM
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I think the way it's supposed to work is the studios that produce the extreme fetish videos distributed on nicheclips have their own websites where they advertise their videos and point customers to nicheclips if they want to buy them. So they likely expect anyone who signs up to already know what videos they have. I imagine it's done that way out of fear of US censorship given the extreme nature of the fetishes. Once inside it's very similar to c4s, only without the searchbox functionality(so you can't search for a girl's name). I found out about it while hunting for unseen B/G footage of Karlie Montana years ago but it ended up not being worth it since those fetishes aren't my cup of tea(although it sounds like they're right up the OP's alley). But it does seem that some G/G performers like Karlie Montana, Sinn Sage, Kendra James, Emily Marilyn etc are willing to go an extra mile on these kinds of extreme fetish vids, maybe they assume mainstream fans won't find out about them? ____________________________ Please ID these PlayboyTV girls https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/playboytv-foursome-identification-thread/ Edited by - hoochimama on 3/26/2013 12:56:53 AM Edited by - hoochimama on 3/26/2013 7:05:39 AM
The screen name "NaughtyNegress" suggests the OP is a she rather than he does it not? Or maybe a chap in touch with his feminine side? One of those naughty Bi-Sexualists perhaps? Whatever, considering the topic, NaughtyNegress doesn't appear to be a person who's very in touch with their feminist side. But you never know.
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Why isn't it a good idea?Sounds interesting. But how are you supposed to know which studios produce this type of content, and where to find it?
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US obscenity laws/censorship for one, the more extreme the porn the higher the risk of it being considered obscene. Credit card companies like VISA won't even touch the more extreme stuff(brazzers even took down pornstarpunishment).Googling? I dunno, I only found one of those studios by google image searching for pics of Karlie Montana with a dude(back when she dodged them). Since my account there is likely still working if you want you can PM me what category of extreme fetish you're looking for and I can check which are the top studios selling that kind of stuff so you can look them up. ____________________________ Please ID these PlayboyTV girls https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/playboytv-foursome-identification-thread/
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I knew you were going to say that. It's the same excuse that's always given whenever anybody asks why every pornographer in the industry now lacks a spine. The problem is that's all it is- an excuse. I long for the days of fearless, extreme, offensive, non-PC porn again. If I only had the money, I'd make it myself.
Honestly, I don't see why you blame them since if they get persecuted for it, it's their ass that goes to jail. The Max thing should have been enough to show what can happen.
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^That's another excuse. I'm tired of hearing people use Max Hardcore as an excuse for why porn is so boring now. Because one man unfortunately got convicted of shipping dirty videos to a hick southern town five years ago, everyone in porn has since been afraid of his own shadow. People keep talking about what happened to Max, while completely ignoring how much has changed since that time. The U.S. Obscenity Task Force has been shut down, the current administration has not initiated a single major obscenity indictment since it's been in office, and Internet porn has replaced the necessity to ship videos, thereby eliminating the risk of being accused of shipping "obscene" material, which, quite honestly, is a risk that accompanies any porn shipment. For the porn industry to still be using Max Hardcore as an excuse for its cowardice is just as ridiculous as authors using James Joyce as an excuse for why they can't write about sex, or rappers using 2 Live Crew as an excuse for why they can't curse.
^ If there is so much demand for extreme porn then why don't you move to supply it? It sounds like you're foregoing an opportunity to get rich. PS - If memory serves, Stagliano's prosecution included material available on his internet site, so you might want to talk to a lawyer, rather than just assume it is a safe haven.
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^Because the old adage rings true: It takes money to make money.
Well, if it is, it seems like a pretty good one to me. You know me. I'm all for freedom and so forth. I'm not making excuses because I like to see freedom squelched. But you have to use some common sense. If they get out here and start making porn that is indistinguishable from rape (especially with a racial element) they are handing the antiporn crowd (on both the left and the right) free excuse to nail them. Porn will take an ideological hit. Porn viewers will take a hit. If they get a conviction (or convictions) or new censorship laws out of the whole thing, will it have really been worth it just to satisfy a few people?1. I'm sure Max would have loved it if you could have spent that time in prison instead of him. 2. I don't think the reason that (some) porn is boring is because it doesn't depict actual rape. I believe the problems with porn are a lot more basic than that. For one thing, a lot of these people come at it as simply a business. If they make money, they're happy. They don't even necessarily understand or care about sex. They're just selling it. If these same people made simulated rape porn, they would go at it from the same angle. Even if you're into that, what makes you think it would be any better than straight hardcore?Well, I don't blame them. Call me crazy but prison scares me.There are so many problems with this reasoning I don't even know where to start. But look at it this way. Every four years, there's the possibility that a new president will be elected. And it's often someone who pretty much came out of the political mist. You can't accurately predict who is going to be president in four years. You cannot predict laws changing. You can't predict attitudes changing. The obscenity task force may have been shut down but you have to consider the fact that it didn't exist to begin with before Dubya. Another one can be set up just as quickly as this one was shut down. And liberals are not going to have unlimited tolerance for violence against women. If anything will bring them out against porn, it will be that. I don't really doubt that this type of a "niche" might would take off and be really popular for a while but that's not in and of itself evidence that there are a lot of people who really want it. Most likely it would be the same people who get off on the shock value. Once that runs out of gas, it's dead in the water and you've just risked everything for a quick buck. If you really care about porn, you're not looking for a quick buck. Good old fashioned sex is the only thing in porn that will ever have staying power. The kind of thing everyone can relate to. Yeah. It's fine to have fetishes but you have to weigh the risks against the rewards. Edited by - randomprecision on 3/27/2013 5:39:29 AM
So, get a business loan. Since you can demonstrate how much untapped potential there is for your product it should be easy enough.
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^A business loan to make porn? What do I look like? Manwin? I see you have jokes. If it were that easy, then porn wouldn't be as broke as it is.You're contradicting yourself. How can you say that you're for freedom, but then say that people shouldn't use their freedoms? I can't say that I'm for freedom of speech, but then tell people that they can't say things that offend me. I can't say that I'm for freedom of religion, but then oppose the right of people to worship freely, even if it's in a mosque near the World Trade Center. If you're really support freedom, then you support it for everybody, not just some people.Since when does the antiporn crowd need an excuse? And why do you feel that there should be a need to appease them? They can go fuck themselves.Yes. Freedom is always worth it. People who think it's not shouldn't have it. As Benjaim Franklin said, "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."I agree. I'm not saying that porn has to go all balls-to-the-wall psychotic in order to be interesting. The reason it's boring is because most of it is all the same, which is mostly crap. There's nothing wrong with taking risks, pushing the envelope, and doing something different. Most of what we see in porn just follows the same old bottled-up and recycled formula over and over and over again. This is what makes it boring. What I would like to see is for someone to come along and spice it up again. If that means for another Max Hardcore to come along, then great. Another Rob Black, then great. Another Khan Tusion, then great. Hell, I would even be satisfied if somebody came along and just started making porn that actually resembles real sex again. I don't think anyone has done that since the 1980s.With that kind of rationale, then why even care at all who's in political power? If everyone is still going to be afraid to do anything, then why bother putting people in office to protect your interests? Might as well just go ahead and keep the anti-porn zealots there. We hear all this talk from the porn industry about why certain candidates shouldn't be put in office because of their anti-porn views. And for what reason? Here's the reaction that we're seeing from the porn industry: "Candidate Jack Smith is a right-wing conservative fundamentalist who hates porn. If he wins the election, he's going to kill porn!" So Jack Smith loses, and his opponent wins, who has no apparent interest whatsoever in opposing pornography. Years later, everyone in porn is still saying that they can't do anything out of fear of political repercussion. So what the fuck was the point of supporting the pro-porn guy? It's like the NRA supporting a pro-gun candidate who wins, but then still telling people that they shouldn't buy guns. You're saying that people should sit around and worry about the hypothetical possibility that laws might change sometime in the future, instead of taking advantage of the freedoms available to them now. That's crazy. By that logic, why do anything that's legal, as it could become illegal tomorrow? We could get a politician in office who is opposed to gays in the military, and decides to reinstate the ban on openly gay members serving. Are you advising that gay people in the military still remain the closet because someone might possibly come along to change the law? If we were to follow such advice, then we'd be a country of timid cowards, and no progress would ever be made.Most of what we see in entertainment is based on shock value. TV, movies, and music are always pushing to become edgier and find ways to keep people fascinated. Turn on any popular HBO series and you'll see what I mean. Entertainment is supposed to be entertaining, not boring. You're right that most people may not be into extreme porn. But most people aren't into cuckold porn, or gloryole porn either. I never understood the appeal of seeing a man get humiliated while watching his wife fuck another man, or the appeal of a woman fucking a wall. I don't get it, and these fetishes are really weird to me, along with others like "squirting" (or more accurately, female pissing), footjobs, hairy girls, BBW, transsexuals, etc. But there is still plenty of porn being made to appeal to all these fetishes. I seriously doubt that any of these are the "kind of thing everyone can relate to." Hell, I can't relate to fucking a girl in acrobatic positions on a small couch in a mansion's living room without ever once engaging in the classic missionary position. But we see this in porn all the time. I can't relate to the whole idea that seeing a white girl fuck a black man is somehow any different than seeing her fuck a white guy. But that whole stupid idea is ubiquitous in porn. So let's not start acting like just because something is a non-mainstream fetish, then it wouldn't still be popular in porn, and plenty of people still don't want to see it. Do you really believe that rape/extreme porn with hot girls wouldn't be much more popular than gloryholes, "squirting," etc., if someone were to make it with good quality? I guarantee you it would be.
Look. I've told you that my position on this is basically in the interest of preserving what little freedom we have left. We do not live in a free country. It's that simple. Idealists like us might want to believe that Americans can deal with more extreme fantasies and fetishes in an enlightened and mature way but that's just not going to happen. It's not just the Bible thumpers anymore. They're bad enough on their own but they're relatively easy to deflect on the grounds that their objections are based entirely on the Bible. Liberals are a bigger group of crazies than even religious fundamentalists. Edited by - randomprecision on 3/28/2013 7:26:26 AM
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But afaik US obscenity laws don't change no matter who's currently "in charge", it's still up to the judge/jury/prosecutor to determine what is obscene for each individual case. As long as there's a legal and cultural context where something can be made illegal just because it's gross/distasteful/obscene it's a house of cards for the extreme fetish studios(and there's probably a good deal of corruption to keep it standing). Even in the euro countries where you don't have obscenity laws and even beast porn is legal there's a rising threat to porn from the feminist parties under the pretense of it being degrading to women(but not men apparently). ____________________________ Please ID these PlayboyTV girls https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/playboytv-foursome-identification-thread/ Edited by - hoochimama on 3/28/2013 9:40:09 AM
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^In order for it to make it to a judge/jury/prosecutor, the government needs to have an interest in pursuing obscenity charges. If the government has no such interest, then it is unlikely that charges will be brought. So it has very much to do with who's in charge, as the people who are in charge are the ones who have discretion in pursuing charges.I cannot disagree more.
The government need not have an interest in attacking pornography. Politicians have an interest in producing publicity from any easy target of opportunity. Porn, guns, soda-po, or seatbelts. Inevitable result is the slow decay of our freedoms. I cannot agree more with Random Precision.
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