Who are Porn's Greatest Sexual Performers (Ever)?

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hawkeye jones Senior Member 3999 Posts 5/10	Posted - Mar 13 2014 : 10:29AM Simply put, which porn stars, gals and guys, fk the best? These individuals bring an abundance of passion, skill, energy, and endurance to their scenes. For the females, I'm looking for those women that have shown the ability to snatch the reigns from their male partners and then proceed to fuck them into submission! If sex were an olympic event, the caliber of performers I have in mind would most certainly contend for a medal. Here are my nominations: The Gals: Careena Collins Debi Diamond Ginger Lynn Tiffany Mynx Sasha Grey Rachel Starr April Flowers, aka April Summers Riley Reid The Guys:** Rocco Siffredi Lexington Steele Manuel Ferrera Peter North Mark Ashley Nacho Vidal Erik Everhard Mick Blue Prince Yahshua Michael Stefano Easier to name those male performers in the industry that are notorious for their passion, energy and exceptional endurance. But what about the gals… can you expand on the list above? I'm sure there's quite a few more babes I've missed that fit the bill, who showcase a combination of uninhibited insatiable passion, natural skill, and boundless energy. Edited by - hawkeye jones on Mar 13 2014 [Link]
pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10	Posted - Mar 13 2014 : 11:38AM I could add a few names to your male list but most go back to the 70's and 80's so I won't but some of the women on your list would never make mine. The first four on your list would make mine but the last four wouldn't. Of the last four, only what Sasha did equals what the others did in their career, but I found that she was often a little too mechanical in her scenes and therefore the heat level was often not really there. I could name so many performers that it would take me half an hour to write them all but here is just a tiny sample. Jenna Haze Mirage/Briana banks Alana Evans Missy Chandler [Link]
pervybrit50 Deactivated User 473 Posts 11/13	Posted - Mar 13 2014 : 3:37PM Shyla Stylez is far & away the best I have ever seen. [Link]
hawkeye jones Senior Member 3999 Posts 5/10	Posted - Mar 15 2014 : 12:36PM Interesting... Over 220 reads, but only 2 responses. Obviously, a lot of you guys want to know the answer to this question as well. Are we really that clueless on this topic? Can we not tell the difference if a babe is a great fuck, average or basically a corpse in a sex scene?? Let's ask the question in a different way... Which female porn stars do you view as "sexual athletes", i.e. the use of their bodies could conceivably induce cardiac arrest in not-so-fit, unsuspecting sex partners? Edited by - hawkeye jones on 3/15/2014 12:37:29 PM [Link]
jackwagner Deactivated User 2 Posts 3/14	Posted - Mar 15 2014 : 2:26PM The reason why you get so many reads vs posts is because the mods have driven away every interesting poster with their iron fist of fury moderating. So it's mostly just the general public/non-members who are doing the viewing. [Link]

Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02	Posted - Mar 15 2014 : 4:29PM Well, given that this poll is in the wrong forum, perhaps people are just waiting for it to be moved. Or, since this is far from the first time the question has been posed, many old-timers just aren't that excited about answering it again. Or, it could be that some of us don't consider a porn performance as the standard by which to measure who fucks the best. Or, it could be that, since this is the weekend, people have better things to do than to be on the internet discussing porn. PS - I'm not sure how reads are counted, but 220 reads may not translate to interest in the topic as much as you think. You may simply be looking at 220 times the thread was marked read; 220 times people passed through as they 'leafed' through the topics in the forum, etc. [Link]
ninja1 Senior Member 2939 Posts 1/08	Posted - Mar 15 2014 : 4:38PM Ava Devine [Link]
Blackie Member 935 Posts 3/14	Posted - Mar 15 2014 : 4:51PM Proxy Paige and the Hedgehog. [Link]
TairyHesticles Member 809 Posts 6/13	Posted - Mar 15 2014 : 6:17PM tori lane annette schwarz katja kassin missy monroe john strong [Link]
GroberSpass Member 330 Posts 3/07	Posted - Mar 16 2014 : 3:52PM They must be on this list Nina Hartley Jada Fire Monique Katja Kassin [Link]
ninja1 Senior Member 2939 Posts 1/08	Posted - Mar 16 2014 : 4:10PM Vanessa Del Rio Sandra Romain Edited by - ninja1 on 3/16/2014 4:22:44 PM [Link]
Kink Williams All-Star Member Yeah Jeets! 809 Posts 8/13	Posted - Mar 16 2014 : 4:28PM Multiple reasons for the lack of response, I suppose. The question ,although a good one, has probably been posed - in some shape or form - many times previously on the forum. There might also be a bit of a lull on the forums right now. I haven't been lurking much lately myself. This is obviously very subjective and i always try to answer these types of polls giving respect to the overall resume of the performer. There might be a few performers who were really good, but don't have the body of work - although that may not be the intent of the poll. yu seem to have the guys pretty much pegged, although I would throw Julian into the mix. Back in the 90's, Alex Sanders fucked as good as anyone. Today's men, like Mark Ashley and Mick Blue, fuck better. But he was among the best back about 15-18 years ago. As far as women are concerened, the answers are going to be all over the place. It would be fun to have the moderators do an AdultDVDTalk best all time (top 100 list) with all of us voting. Maybe each member does a Top 25. Give 25 points for a #1 ranking, 24 points for a #2, etc. Add up all the points and see who comes out on top. Anyhow, when it comes to performers: Jenny Hendrix Sunny Lane Jesse St James Shawna Lenee Bree Olsen Brittany Skye Leeanna Heart Lain Oi Tianna Lynn Tori Welles Eva Angelina Penny Flame Dani Jensen Kaiya Lynn Alexa Rae Tanner Mayes Leah Luv Remy Lacroix Shyla Styles Lily Thai A few other guys: John Leslie, John Holmes, Byron Long [Link]
JB_X Deactivated User addled 1500 Posts 10/12	Posted - Mar 16 2014 : 5:18PM hawkeye jones wrote: Simply put, which porn stars, gals and guys, fk the best? These individuals bring an abundance of passion, skill, energy, and endurance** to their scenes. Click to expand Phoenix Marie Belladonna Charley Chase Bobbi Starr Anikka Albrite Veronica Avluv Holly Michaels [Link]
matchmaker Senior Member 24914 Posts 4/05	Posted - Mar 17 2014 : 6:50AM Jewel DeNyle Ashlyn Gere Keri Windsor Ginger Lynn Veronica Avluv Dia Zerva Tory Lane Kelly Leigh Sandra Romain Jessie Andrews Celeste Star Sinn Sage Avy Scott Zoey Holloway Asa Akira Kristina Rose [Link]
jakejd4949 Senior Member 2938 Posts 8/06	Posted - Mar 17 2014 : 8:04AM How about the "golden" era , 70' to the early 80's . Not a lot of fame or money for the performers , there were a number of women who just burned up the screen . Marilyn Chambers , maybe the first superstar who really enjoyed displaying her voracious sexuality on screen , watch Behind the Green Door . The Devil in Miss Jones star Georgina Spelvin . Little Oral Annie and C J Laing were as great oral experts as you will ever see . And with the beginning of the vhs era , the was Ginger Lynn , still the image of the cute California blond fuck bunny , she was really wild when she could have just gotten paid for her looks . [Link]

Imperator Member 117 Posts 4/11	Posted - Mar 17 2014 : 8:11AM jackwagner wrote: The reason why you get so many reads vs posts is because the mods have driven away every interesting poster with their iron fist of fury moderating. So it's mostly just the general public/non-members who are doing the viewing. Click to expand Or perhaps it's just tiresome to just keep churning out lists, which is what 90% of new threads seem to be about of late. I mean, it may be an interesting QUESTION, but a very boring answer if it's just a list of 10-20 names, different for each one. Imp. [Link]
jakejd4949 Senior Member 2938 Posts 8/06	Posted - Mar 17 2014 : 8:38AM From the beginnings of the internet era to today , I have always loved Chloe and Tricia Devereaux , I am not really into gangbangs but Gangbang Girl 17 with both , absolutely one of the most intense gb scenes you will see . Aurora Snow and Gauge from the beginning of the 00's ,and I would second Jenna Haze of course . [Link]
hawkeye jones Senior Member 3999 Posts 5/10	Posted - Mar 17 2014 : 10:47AM Now we're getting somewhere! Haven't watched as much porn as some of you guys (although I've definitely seen my share). So I'm especially interested in the performers I've never seen (there are many) that recur in some of the listings. From my personal viewing experience, I concur with the earlier mentions of Vanessa Del Rio, Ashlyn Gere, and Monique... major faux pas on my part for forgetting about these ladies who virtually tore up the screen with their performances. Here are the "repeats" thus far that have appeared in some of the listings above which may in fact represent the upper echelon of the more sexually-charged performers of all time!: - Vanessa Del Rio - Jenna Haze - Katja Kassin - Ashlyn Gere - Ginger Lynn - Sandra Romain - Monique (although I often found her frightening , no one was more intense) Probably need to go back and review a clip of Marilyn Chambers... she may very well deserve to be on this list as well. Edited by - hawkeye jones on 3/17/2014 10:53:05 AM [Link]
aclayfan All-Star Member 5060 Posts 8/11	Posted - Mar 17 2014 : 11:18AM Pretty one who let loose: Nikki Dial Mostly lesbian: Tianna English girl Kelly who shot with Rocco was insane. [Link]
Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02	Posted - Mar 17 2014 : 2:15PM ^ Kelly Stafford [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Mar 17 2014 : 3:02PM hawkeye jones wrote: The Guys: Rocco Siffredi Lexington Steele Manuel Ferrera Peter North Mark Ashley Nacho Vidal Erik Everhard Mick Blue Prince Yahshua Michael Stefano Click to expand Goodness, these are recent! Many notables are missing. Best of the best: John Leslie Jamie Gillis Eric Edwards Jeff Stryker Wade Nichols [Link]
rtj2v0a Self-removed Sports is to war as pornography is to sex. ― Jonathan Haidt 222 Posts 10/13	Posted - Mar 17 2014 : 4:45PM hawkeye jones wrote: Edited by - hawkeye jones on Mar 13 2014 Click to expand Are you looking for "the best" or are you looking for everyone's "favorites?" I ask because I believe if you're looking for the objective "best" you won't get it. And isn't just a variation of "who's you favorite star all-time?" [Link]
phyron Member 39 Posts 1/09	Posted - Mar 17 2014 : 7:27PM the best performers for me: Jenna Haze Amy Ried Nikita Denise Angel Dark London Keys Hennesy Black Angelika Madison Parker Missy Stone Kristina Rose Lucy Aka Marya (russian) Sasha rose Cipriana amirah adara Jamie Paige Roxy Jezel Brianna Banks they did all and they did excel Minimum Requirement: anal scenes [Link]
Dragon Sign Deactivated User 3381 Posts 12/13	Posted - Mar 17 2014 : 8:03PM Well you have the olympics and the worldchampionships and all these shit about every second summer, that's about the time of a generation of porngirls, so let's say the event in San Fernando Valley went by in 2005, 2007, 2009, 2011 and 20013. Gold 2005: Chris Charming & Courtney Simpson, Gold 2007: Erik Everhard & McKenzee Miles, Gold 2009: Mark Ashley & Nikky Thorne, Gold 2011: Chris Strokes & Allie Jordan, Gold 2013: Bill Bailey & Kennedy Leigh [Link]
tux2 Member 220 Posts 8/06	Posted - Mar 18 2014 : 4:10PM I'm not sure what "best performer" means, but here's my translation, "a star who's more enticing in action than he/she would be in a still". I have no idea how anything feels, so for me it's whether the way they move, make contact with the camera, their partner(s), vocalize, pose, what they do, etc. adds "value" to a scene beyond how physically attractive he/she may be while standing still. Old school 1. Leslie Bovee, she was very attractive, but was never the best looking actress even in her own time. She did, however, just appear to be totally into whatever she was doing and I think she remains one of the best sex actresses ever. A much warmer presence on screen than Annette Haven or Amber Hunt. 2. Colleen Brennan. Her name doesn't come up much except among red head lovers. She had this thing of being very connected to her partner in a scene and appeared to get very turned on herself. 3. Elle Rio very wild, lots of motion and energy in her scenes. Probably the shared last name with Vanessa Del Rio was on purpose. some others, Jessie St. James, Gina Valentino, Kay Parker, Careena Collins Newer school: 1. Hillary Scott...seemed to do anything and everything with tremendous enthusiasm. 2) Sunny Lane almost always seems to be into what she's doing, lots of personality in her scenes, and always seemed to be having fun. 3) Vicky Vette, something about the way she makes contact with the camera. [Link]

jm6d Member 417 Posts 2/11	Posted - Mar 18 2014 : 9:34PM Well, what is porn? What is sexual? What is performance? My answer is the women who so to say goes through the screen and almost always get me very interested through their amasing performances. Another requirement is that they've done several scenes and that they've got a clear (stage) name to be identified through. For me these are some names: US mainstream: Amber Rayne Melissa Lauren Phoenix Marie Cecilia Vega Sandra Romain Kit Kat: Angelique Bea Angie Pipi RGE/Lupus Michaela Trmotova Renata Sukova Katerina Tetova British CP Leia-Ann Woods Jadie Reece Dublin O'Brien [Link]
killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18634 Posts 4/08	Posted - Mar 19 2014 : 10:29PM ^ Please tell me that "British CP" doesn't stand for "Child Porn"... [Link]
ninja1 Senior Member 2939 Posts 1/08	Posted - Mar 19 2014 : 10:40PM ^Corporal Punishment (spanking, etc.) [Link]
jim2 Member 232 Posts 7/06	Posted - Mar 19 2014 : 11:16PM Surprised nobody mentioned Christy Canyon. Her tits were certainly among the greatest ever. [Link]
killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18634 Posts 4/08	Posted - Mar 19 2014 : 11:35PM ninja1 wrote: ^Corporal Punishment (spanking, etc.) Click to expand Phew. [/wipesbrow] Thanks. [Link]
alphadachs Member 475 Posts 3/10	Posted - Mar 20 2014 : 1:32AM Some great choices in here, but I can't believe (unless I missed it) that no one has mentioned Jeanna Fine. [Link]
jakejd4949 Senior Member 2938 Posts 8/06	Posted - Mar 23 2014 : 9:00AM tux2 wrote: I'm not sure what "best performer" means, but here's my translation, "a star who's more enticing in action than he/she would be in a still". I have no idea how anything feels, so for me it's whether the way they move, make contact with the camera, their partner(s), vocalize, pose, what they do, etc. adds "value" to a scene beyond how physically attractive he/she may be while standing still. Old school 1. Leslie Bovee, she was very attractive, but was never the best looking actress even in her own time. She did, however, just appear to be totally into whatever she was doing and I think she remains one of the best sex actresses ever. A much warmer presence on screen than Annette Haven or Amber Hunt. 2. Colleen Brennan. Her name doesn't come up much except among red head lovers. She had this thing of being very connected to her partner in a scene and appeared to get very turned on herself. 3. Elle Rio very wild, lots of motion and energy in her scenes. Probably the shared last name with Vanessa Del Rio was on purpose. some others, Jessie St. James, Gina Valentino, Kay Parker, Careena Collins Newer school: 1. Hillary Scott...seemed to do anything and everything with tremendous enthusiasm. 2) Sunny Lane almost always seems to be into what she's doing, lots of personality in her scenes, and always seemed to be having fun. 3) Vicky Vette, something about the way she makes contact with the camera. Click to expand Great choice on Bovee , she's one of the under rated ladies of the '70's . Was going to mention kay parker as well , a milf who could act , and very sensual (have to mention Honey Wilder as well) . Tish Ambrose , overlooked and great oral specialist . careena Collins was just wild , an extreme performer . [Link]
jakejd4949 Senior Member 2938 Posts 8/06	Posted - Mar 23 2014 : 9:22AM I would also second Roxy Jezel . A beautiful sexy woman , very very smart(university degree ) and very wild and uninhibited . [Link]
Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10	Posted - Mar 23 2014 : 4:00PM With the mention of Kay Parker, you also have to put her in context with the era. She was such a superstar. And, those of us pounding our puds in the darkness of a grand movie palace, clinging to life showing porn, were, as often as not, giving Kay Parker a lot of attention. Perhaps tame by today's standards and the advent of the great MILF market and performers we have today, when Kay lit-up the screen in Taboo it was just electric. Jesie St. James was also a standout from that era. Tori Welles, beginning in the late 80's, was as good as it gets. Ginger Lynn set the screen on fire as the videotape era took off. Of the newer girls mentioned so far, Jenna Haze certainly deserves being on the "short list." Honestly, these polls have been done to death, and I seldom have the energy anymore to comment for the 137th time. However, I wanted to add just a bit of perspective from those of us who actually whacked-off to the greats when they were new and performing, before 5,000 more girls came along and cluttered your mind. BTW, The Beatles were more than another popular band. Really. If you didn't live through that era, it's very difficult to convey just what a sensation, how special they were and what an impact they had on music and the popular culture. Now, get the fuck off my lawn [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Mar 23 2014 : 4:30PM Goldstein wrote: Jesie St. James was also a standout from that era. Click to expand [Link]

Pornorator Member For the love of porn! 93 Posts 12/13	Posted - Mar 23 2014 : 5:17PM Goldstein wrote: Tori Welles, beginning in the late 80's, was as good as it gets. Click to expand My god, Tori Welles... She is the reason why 1989 is burned in my memory as the year I discovered how great porn movies can be. I was in lust with her from the first scene I saw her in. It was either John Stagliano's Mystic Pieces or John Leslie's The Chameleon, both exceptional movies. In both cases, it was Tori's "fuck me" eyes that enraptured me. Because of her and her appearance on the cover, I happened on Andrew Blake's Night Trips. And what a complete mind fuck that was. Incredible. I had no idea that porn could be that amazing. It is still one of my favourite movies, and I don't mean just porn movies. Central to Night Trips is the exploration of Tori's sexual fantasies and the centrepiece is her tryst with Peter North, beautifully shot in blue filters. I can see every frame of it replaying in my mind. The combination of Tori's passion and Peter's legendary cock, culminating in a massive cumshot, is sheer porn perfection. [Link]
PornoSmurf Senior Member 1190 Posts 12/13	Posted - Mar 24 2014 : 10:46AM I don't like answering these threads cause I always forget a few names I should have mentioned. Anyways I'll mention the girls that come to mind. Madison Ivy - her slutty talk, way she sucks a cock with that look on her face and the way she takes a cock make her a remarkable performer. Siri - I watched her old and new work. Since the change to red hair and her losing a lot of weight I think she's probably has the best dirty talk in the business. She just comes across as so intelligent and believable when she says dirty things, she's phenomenal. Charley Chase - now retired but mentioned purely for her cock sucking skills, god damn! Alexis Texas - beautiful all natural body and when she does ffm scenes I love how she shit talks her co-star. She always calls the other girl names like filthy slut and whore etc. and ofcourse, dat fucking ass! Diamond Fox - Gorgeous gorgeous eyes and face, body to die for and a MILF of note! [Link]
Pornorator Member For the love of porn! 93 Posts 12/13	Posted - Mar 25 2014 : 6:30AM PornoSmurf wrote: I don't like answering these threads cause I always forget a few names I should have mentioned... Click to expand I agree. Instead of the male propensity for making endless lists that we all forget instantly, why don't we describe a particular favourite performer and why we think she was so hot. Let others share in our moments of masturbatory bliss. Oh, and how about telling each other where to find that scene of hers that really blew your wad and your mind? [Link]
viking1001 Deactivated User 436 Posts 8/05	Posted - Mar 25 2014 : 11:52AM sheena shaw,angelina valentine [Link]
justcauseaguyreadscomics Member 122 Posts 1/14	Posted - Mar 25 2014 : 12:09PM hmmph...left of the list: taylor rain julie rage raquel darrien had to settle accounts and make sure things balanced. now...balanced. ;-> [Link]
Dragon Sign Deactivated User 3381 Posts 12/13	Posted - Mar 25 2014 : 1:17PM Skin Diamond [Link]
BSD Senior Member San Diego, CA 2508 Posts 11/03	Posted - Mar 25 2014 : 1:19PM HAWKEYE JONES - Spoke to this many times in the past, but here's one of my nuggets from six years ago. BSD [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Mar 25 2014 : 4:04PM Chloe [Link]
jbull Member 101 Posts 2/09	Posted - Mar 25 2014 : 4:39PM still,tho many years have passed,Ms.Buffy Davis [Link]
Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10	Posted - Mar 25 2014 : 5:36PM Dragon Sign wrote: Skin Diamond Click to expand Absolutely. From today's crop of current performers, Skin Diamond should be on the list. [Link]
Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10	Posted - Mar 25 2014 : 5:40PM justcauseaguyreadscomics wrote: hmmph...left of the list: taylor rain julie rage raquel darrien had to settle accounts and make sure things balanced. now...balanced. ;-> Click to expand Racquel Darrian, while one of the most jaw-dropping attractive women to ever do porn, was never a particularly good performer. Definitely not "greatest" list material. [Link]
priapus84 Member 36 Posts 3/14	Posted - Mar 25 2014 : 6:15PM I always thought Melissa Lauren, Gen Padova, Monica Sweetheart and Claudia Rossi were champs. [Link]
zambi Senior Member 1451 Posts 3/10	Posted - Mar 25 2014 : 7:33PM Here's my best male performer list of all-time: Greatest Porn Stud Ever! . top 10 all time female performers (no particular order, really should have done a per decade list like I did for male stars above, I'll do that later and amend) . Jeanna Fine . Bobbi Starr . Marilyn Chambers . Vanessa Del Rio . Nina Hartley . Jewel DeNyle . Juliet "Aunt Peg" Anderson . Julia Ann . Ebony Ayes . Belladonna . honorable mention (limited to 10) - Amber Lynn - Ashlyn Gere - Christy Canyon - Debi Diamond - Ona Zee - Michelle Wild - Samantha Fox - Sandra Romain - Sasha Grey - Seka . top 10 directors of all time . Alex DeRenzy/Rex Borsky (classics) . John Stagliano (created gonzo, discovered brazil) . Brad Armstrong (features) . Michael Ninn (eye candy) . Pierre Woodman (euro) . John Leslie . Joey Silvera (kink) . Jim Powers (extreme/weird/funny, Roger Cormon of porn) . T.B (black/IR for WCP) . Anthony Spinelli - honorable mention . Gregory Dark (kink/comedy) . Lee G (black/IR) . Warren Evans (classics) . Nic Andrews (eye candy) . Kovi (euro) . Justin Slayer (black/IR) . Andrew Blake (eye candy) . Robert McCallum (classics) . Henri Pachard (classics) - worst director of all-time . Paul Thomas Edited by - zambi on 3/25/2014 7:35:03 PM [Link]
the unknown pervert Deactivated User I'd like to stay but I've got a plane to catch. 3243 Posts 5/06	Posted - Mar 25 2014 : 8:50PM I'm not using looks as a basis for this. My definition of greatest sexual performers is basically the women who give the impression that they would fuck your eyeballs out whether there is a camera around or not. 1980s Buffy Davis Debi Diamond Elle Rio Careena Collins Brittany Stryker Jennifer Noxt 1990s Ashlyn Gere Stacy Valentine(I am absolutely floored she hasn't been mentioned yet.) Tori Welles Juli Ashton Shayla Leveaux Crystal Wilder Kelly Trump 2000s Shyla Stylez Tori Lane Angel Dark Sharka Blue Liliane Tiger Hillary Scott Dora Venter Inari Vachs Melissa Lauren Mia Rose Rebecca Linares Aurora Snow Sandra Romain 2010s Tarra White Ivana Sugar Cherry Jul Asa Akira Jessie Volt Aleska Diamond [Link]
Jimmy Hooligan Member 452 Posts 7/09	Posted - Mar 26 2014 : 9:22AM First star who came to my mind is Heather Hunter (90's ebony porn star). That lady gave 100% every scene! - Jimmy Hooligan The Official Jimmy Hooligan Website [Link]
a9nostic Senior Member 1056 Posts 8/08	Posted - Mar 26 2014 : 11:27PM I'd have to say Sandra Romain, Ava Devine, and Monica Santhiago. Maneaters, every one. [Link]