I always hear how "80%" of the male talent is gay/bi, and for some reason I find that hard to believe. So I'm curious as to who these guys are? Not trying to start rumors...so what guys are confirmed to be gay or bi? And yes, if they've done ANY gay or tranny porn they're considered gay.. Topic Moved by - Flash on Jun 6 2010
Um, that's kind of a ridiculous idea. Last year I spent about 10 months in the valley, hoping to "break in" as male talent. It is tuff tuff tuff to even get your foot in the door as a dude. But gay porn producers/directors are always looking for new talent. And the scene rates for a doing gay porn are quite a bit higher than what dudes in straight porn are making. So why would a gay dude try to make less money for having sex with girls when he's really not even attracted to them? The exact opposite of your statement is probably true, with a lot of straight dudes doing gay porn just for the money. Have you never heard of "gay for pay"?
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Posted - Jun 6 2010 : 1:14PM
Judging by the prevalence of dudes who have to jerk themselves off to achieve the pop, it would appear that most can't get off to women.... I guess that's pretty gay. (Not that there's anything wrong with being gay... It's just not something I wanna watch)
I think the 80% you are referring to is the questionable bisexual activities that are required of male talent to work in porn... Double vag, double anal, double BJs, and DPs in general do require a male performer to remain erect while his genitals are rubbing against another's male performer's genitals. Some male performers find it difficult to perform in those types of scenes while others do not.
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Posted - Jun 6 2010 : 5:12PM
Brian Pumper and Byron Long, I know, have done gay porn before. I read once in an interview where Steve Holmes said that he was bi and used to suck dick when he was younger but got bored with it. I suspect that Nacho Vidal and Manuel Ferrara are also bi, by some of the things I have heard.
Peter North was the most famous male star to have done gay porn. I'm still in shock about this one. Byron Long fucked a black guy in a gay porn movie. Jake Steed did a jerk off scene in gay shower scene, and he let some white guy suck his dick in a bi movie. Tom Byron did a tranny for Color Climax shoot and I think he sucked the tranny's dick. You can find the pics online. Mr Biggz uses the name "Bam" and did a lot of gay porn. But I think he's a top only. Castro Supreme has done lot of gay porn using the name Supreme. He has fucked and been fucked by guys. TT Boy's brother Talon has done gay porn. Christian XXX has done gay movies. Joey Silvera uses him a lot. Kurt Lockwood used to be straight but got turned out by trannies and now he's doing bi movies getting fucked by guys. Jeez. I suspect Nacho Vidal had probably done some trannies he shot off camera. John Stagliano sucked a trannies dick onetime on camera while Joey shot it. I suspect Joey has done some trannies off camera also.
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Posted - Jun 6 2010 : 7:07PM
No more ridiculous than straight girls in porn doing other girls. It's all about the $$$. Just watch enough porn and it's easy to spot the gay/bi guys. This isn't very scientific by any means, but just look for the guys that have pierced navels, liscense plate tats, are devoid of all body hair, etc. No names to offer as the only guys I pay attention to are the annoying ones so I can avoid them. In your attempt to become male talent, did you do any gay porn? Edited by - rosco fuji on 6/6/2010 7:12:13 PM
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Posted - Jun 6 2010 : 8:36PM
I'll take it one further and say that judging by the increasing total lack of intimacy of any kind in movies - kissing, sucking, pussy eating -- bordering on contempt for the girls, the rough treatment and the guys who only seem to enjoy themselves when they are high-giving their buddies (you see this lunkheaded behavior in a lot of the Florida-based Web pages, it seems), some of these guys should be working for Sean Cody instead.
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In all the time I've been a member of this forum, this is my first ever post in the Gay section of the forum. But since this thread originated in the Porn Pool, I'll just go ahead and put in my two cents on the subject.In addition to the reasons you already gave, there's also the high risk of guys sabotaging their chances of returning to straight porn if it ever gets out that they did gay porn. Fans and industry insiders alike tend to look down on guys who have done gay porn. So there's the risk of the guy damaging his reputation in the straight porn world. Of course, we know about the exceptions, such as some of those mentioned by zambi. But there are usually reasons for the exceptions, such as (1) veteran guys who did gay porn so long ago that the younger generation of porn viewers isn't even aware of it, or (2) guys who were better able to keep their gay porn work a secret. Even those who return to straight porn are usually unable to get as much work as guys who have never done gay porn. With all this in play, this is another reason why most straight guys would rather forgo the higher pay of gay porn. By the way, did you get any work when you were in the Valley?This most likely has more to do with the type of sex that goes on in porn than it does with the sexuality of the male performers. If the performers were allowed to have sex the way they normally would if they weren't performing for the camera, then there would probably be no need for the guys to finish themselves off. But because of the constant position changes into silly and seemingly uncomfortable positions, a guy standing over them with a camera along with whoever else is on set, and the requirement for the guy to ejaculate at exactly the 25-minute mark, all this contributes to the guy not being able to get off the way he normally would if he weren't required to perform for the camera.I can't see Manuel being into guys. I don't believe that. Dude gets too much premium pussy for that to be true. Plus, the guy is one of my heroes. So I refuse to believe it in the absence of proof.We know there's the double standard that says it's sexy for girls to fuck other girls, but gay for guys to fuck other guys. Double standard or not, I have to agree with it. Girls in porn can do other girls because it's considered hot to watch, and that's what the male viewers want to see. Nobody wants to see guys doing other guys. As for spotting the guys who are gay, some that stuff you mentioned has become standard in the industry, particularly the one about being devoid of all body hair. I never understood that one. Who was it that made it a rule for all male performers to shave their body hair? It just doesn't look right. In real life, it's very uncommon to see an adult man without a stitch of body hair on him. But in porn, the hairless thing is obviously what all men are supposed to look like, which is just weird. There's also something very backwards when we start seeing the women have more pubic hair than the men do. Going back to Manuel, he's actually one of the only men in porn I can think of who has never gone hairless, and still doesn't shave his body hair. There aren't too many others I can think of who do the same. Edited by - realtip on 6/7/2010 12:19:27 AM
What does that have to do with anything?? Maybe IM gay! Maybe IM bi! Maybe IM a lesbian!! [Edited - Flash] This is a "forum", correct? Is there a rule about what questions you can ask or what topics you can discuss that I don't know about? MOD: This is not the way to behave on an adult forum. Read the forum etiquette before posting again. Especially the below quoted portion. I've bolded the most relevant portion.Edited by - flash on 6/8/2010 2:26:14 AM
^^^Lighten up, that's just Joey, and he was clearly making fun of homophobes with his snarky comment. Plus, that response was made before the thread was moved to Gay DVD Talk from the Polls section. Edited by - algaliarept on 6/7/2010 9:32:21 PM
That's not all that shocking after all I believe it was in Kelly's Way To Love he was getting sucked off by a Transsexual not that is necessarily a bad thing I happen to like TS Porn however an actor that considers himself straight will not perform with a TS.That being said Zenza Raggi,did perform in a three way with Isabel Ice and a TS in Rocco Siffredi's More Trans Obsession.Also French Porn Stud turned director Christoph Clark,had a sexual encounter with a Transsexual early in his career.
Peter North, Tom Byron, Talon....those gay scenes are almost 20 years in the past but their names still come up. There are quite a few guys in straight porn now who have started in gay porn just a few years ago: Seth Gamble Joey Brass Carlo Carrera Zack Randall just to name a few. Jay Ashley, Seth Dickens and Frank Towers have recently appeared in bi scenes in the "Forced Bi Cuckold" series. And as far as cuckold vids go, there is a trend where the dude (usually black) only has straight sex with girl, but the other guy(the cuckold) will lick up the first guys load. Many of today's black male porn actors have participated in scenes like that...Brian Pumper, Sean Michaels, Shane Diesel, etc etc etc.
Edited by - John West Fan on 6/15/2010 11:22:10 AM
Couple more "straight" performers who have done "gay/bi" scenes ... . Julian let a guy suck his dick in a bi scene with Sharon Kane . Jaime Gillis was one of the first to do gay and TS scenes Some guys like Julian and Jake Steed seem to have done one or two gay/bi scenes really early in their careers probably for money and never did it again. But guys like Peter North were big gay porn stars before crossing over. I still remember the shock of finding out Peter North was bi. He didn't just do gay movies he got fucked by guys. Damn. John Stagliano got HIV from letting brazilian TS bang him bareback. And if I recall he did an interview after the HIV story broke where he admitted having gay sex encounters with Patrick Collins. Jeez. I guess these guys are around so much pussy on a day-to-day basis that they get bored and need something different to turn them on.
Ya know you'd think porn enthusiasts would be more liberal and open minded. But naaaah they're just a bunch of racist, homophobic, crabs in a barrel that gossip like bitches. The day is gonna come when y'all realize bisexuality isn't evil, or taboo, or even rare, and that will be the day porn becomes a lot more exciting.
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Posted - Jul 27 2010 : 4:22AM
I agree with this 100 percent.Uh, except for gay men, bi men, some straight women and even a few lesbians I know.The hairless thing is more modern, George Payne and Jack Wrangler both did a lot of straight and gay porn and both were quite hairy dudes.
Billy Hart, who is beautiful, does straight porn after doing some really hot gay porn. Ryan Driller is straight star who did films as Jeremy Bilding. Danny D did gay porn and he is really good with pussy! Chris Strokes has done gay porn and he's a straight porn super star. What a cock! Danny D is bigger but they are both huge and skilled with pussy. Seth Gamble has done gay porn. So has Seth Dickens, or at least he's posed. And Jack Mason has done gay posing and he's an incredible straight porn star. These are all young and current straight porn stars easily available on film.
There's Johnny Champ , 2010-14 . He's like Christian and Wolf Hudson , done girls , some bbw girls , trans and gay scenes. He very good has a super thick cock he loves to show off , really good in b/g scenes where girls/milfs amazed by his girth .
I'm astonished that people who are so into porn would demonstrate so much ignorance regarding sexuality and sexual orientation. 1. People can be straight, and engage in homosexual sex. 2. People can be gay, and engage in heterosexual sex. 3. Both of the above are especially true when the sex is for the porn business. 4. Physical traits such as shaved bodies, tattoos, and hairstyles do not indicate a person's sexual orientation. 5. The above is especially true when the person is in the porn business. 6. Having sex with a Trans girl isn't "gay." In fact, it falls into the category of HETEROSEXUALITY, since she's a girl (psychologically, emotionally, and physically), even if she does have a penis. 7. Masturbating oneself to the point of ejaculation is not a sign that a man is gay. Certain segments of the porn audience prefer to see the ejaculation take place (on a woman's face, on her breasts, on her ass, etc.), rather than simply watching the man cum inside her pussy where it can't be seen. The presumption that the actor is doing this because he can't "pop" in her is absurd. 8. The lack of intimacy, and quasi-violence, that we see increasingly in porn has NOTHING to do with the actors potentially being gay. That's another absurdity. The mere suggestion that this is anything other than a trend or a fetish borders on insanity. If anyone is going to treat women with violence and derision, it won't be a gay man. I could continue, but I feel like I'm probably wasting my time as it is.
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