I'm curious what guys are considered the leading young white male performers to pair with the cute, young, white girls (age 18-21). There are certainly plenty of talented black stars and older white stars, but I think there's something to be said for girls getting fucked by guys that they might plausibly jump in the sack with in real life. Not much older than them (20-24), at least somewhat good looking and looking like they come from the same culture, at least somewhat charming so they have more chemistry. This allows for easier suspension of disbelief and more vicarious watching.
Who is top and who is not is a matter of what you want to see. If it's new good-looking men you want to see. Then some new guys in the business would make the top list. But if it's a really good fuck for the young lady you want to see. Then experienced old hands would make the top list, such as Steve Holmes, Manuel Ferrara, and John Strong. Nobody can anal, gape, and DP a young attractive lady so well as these experienced guys can.
Edited by - Dan on 5/19/2008 3:29:17 PM
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Posted - May 19 2008 : 4:07PM
I would say that porn is ready for an influx of good young male performers. No disrespect to the old guard who have done a great job for a number of years but there is something a little strange about still seeing David Perry, Steve Holmes et al as male porn front-runners in 2008. It strikes me that there is either a lack of talent coming through or current directors are favouring the "safe" option.
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Posted - May 19 2008 : 4:28PM
It's often a better option than wanting to strangle a lame-ass punk kid who doesn't know how to fuck. ...Oh yea -- :)
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Posted - May 19 2008 : 4:48PM
Just curious: Why is it that there are so many younger(ages 18-21) male in gay porn but next to none in straight porn?? Always wanted to know the answer to that question...
The focus is on the ladies and not on the guys in straight porn. That's why there are so many new young ladies coming into porn. But not so many young guys.
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Posted - May 19 2008 : 7:19PM
For sure....but then how did these older pros hone their trade in the first place? They didn't come off the peg. Presumably that's just par for the course, no? You reap the rewards of your earlier investment when they eventually reach the top levels. These old(er) guys aint gonna go on for ever. The directors will have to bite the bullet at some point. Edited by - TheVulture on 5/19/2008 7:23:22 PM
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Posted - May 19 2008 : 7:21PM
But you need the guys to service the girls. For sure, you don't need as many and the industry can survive on the same small(ish) rolling stock but I still say bring on at least a few more younger guys.
Mr.Pete fucks girls how I want to see them fucked. I've never been disapointed by a scene when he's the male half of the show, at 28 years old I'd class him as young talent.
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Posted - May 19 2008 : 10:25PM
Anthony Rosano does well in his scenes and the girls seem to like him. I noticed him after his scenes with Annette Schwarz and Georgia Peach in MA 1 & 2.
Yeah, it's understandable that gay porn is buying up all the young male talent they can find, because that's what they go for... and now that I think about it, the irony is, the young guys in gay porn can start out on the receiving end and build up their experience until they are ready to drive the action. In straight porn, if you put a 19 year old guy in a scene and he has trouble (like not staying hard, cumming early, or ruining the action), there's typically no way the girl can salvage the scene... unless it's just that the guy can't make the sex look good in front of a camera, in which case you could resort to lots of cowgirl. I think April Flowers could make just about any guy look good as long as he's got a decent size cock, but she was the exception. But, I agree, apparently most directors favor using experienced pros, and it seems to be difficult for a new guy to break into the business... let alone make it a real career, but those that do can have pretty long careers because of the lack of quality competition. But, obviously, most guys are straight and don't want to do gay porn unless they're in real financial distress, so still, I would think there would be more young guys in at least some niches of straight porn. One thing I REALLY like about the full-amateur (homemade) stuff is that the guys and girls obviously look like they're on par, physically -- the girl isn't getting fucked by a guy old enough to be her father, or by an ugly, out of shape guy who just has a big cock. The really hot chicks with killer bodies are getting banged by guys close to their age who are also extremely fit and handsome, and it really makes for a better scene, when you're nodding your head that those two would end up in the same bed. I don't have anything against the over-25 guys in porn, it's just that I wish there were a few producers that tried to carve out a niche where they focused only on cute young girls and paired them up with guys they would find attractive in real life... and then filmed them having epic sex.
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Posted - May 20 2008 : 2:44AM
Mark Ashley has made truckloads of sex films. He also has one of the most enormous weiners I've ever seen on any white performer.
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Posted - May 20 2008 : 1:53PM
It's a tough call for me. I prefer seeing a cute guy who can fuck really well. Now, if it's choice between a guy who's slightly more average looking but can fuck really awesome, and a really hot guy who can't fuck very well, I'd rather watch the guy who can fuck. Quite a few of the guys from Europe got their start by doing live sex shows. Those aren't really common at all here in the US, so it's harder for a guy to get his start here. Here, the way in is by working for the amateur companies, it seems. I agree about not wanting to see the out of shape guys. But I don't mind the guys who are older, but that's my personal preference. I've always liked older guys.
David Perry will be my partner tomorrow in part 2 of [ invalid url ]. We are going to share 15 beautiful young girls. Some of them you have never seen. I would never book an unexperienced guy for such a scene.
I remember in an Ashley Blue scene from a while back (I'm pretty sure it was Down The Hatch #9 but I'm not 100%) Trent Tesoro said something like the best way for a new young male performer to break into the business is to first find a hot young chick and then basically ride her coattails into the industry.
I know when I was 18-25 I wouldn't have been able to do porn. Unless two mintue scenes became really popular.
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Posted - May 22 2008 : 1:11AM
It's funny how this topic comes up every few months. I agree that we could use more young guys, both black and white, in porn. But, they have to be able to perform, which makes it tough. Apparently, it's pretty tough to find decent looking young guys with big cocks that can keep themselves aroused on set. But, it seems like the industry could do a little better at breaking in new guys.
She flaked. When she finally called that she will be late, we were already 50 kilometers outside of Budapest. But even with "only" 14 girls we all had a great time. And guess who gave the honor to capture this party on video? The great Christoph Clark himself. Edited by - heynow on 5/29/2008 10:24:39 AM
Looks like you had a great time, Steve! On the subject of new young males, in the UK we have had a few auditions for male talent. On one of those, of the 10 guys only one managed to perform, and he was an older guy. All the young ones failed. Jacco
I believe you. Yeah, I love the first picture. That's pretty much how I imagine paradise. hehe. I see Zafira there. Did she do anal? Who's the chick with the shaved head?
Yes, my dear Melissa. I picked a location where we were prepared for all weather options but we were lucky and shot the vast majority outdoors.Come to Europe my friend. I'm planning the next one for July!Thanks Tricia, I gonna call her tomorrow, anyway. Best regards to all The old man, Steve Holmes
I can understand how a producer or director would agree, particularly for a huge scene like that where I'm sure the production cost is pretty high. That said, I still like rooting for the underdog -- some college-aged guy who gets his shot to show what he can do with a hot college-aged chick in front of a camera -- or even better, in front of a crowd of his college-aged peers. That's why I like the College Invasion series. Sure, many of the guys crash and burn, but a few of them kick ass... I remember a couple guys they pulled off a public beach... for the first guy, one of the starlets gave him a handjob, but he was good enough with his fingers to make the girl cum first, and had her on the verge of cumming again when he finally shot his load -- she was damn impressed. The other guy got a blowjob, but he also talked her into rimming his ass, along with making her cum first (and she was extremely embarrassed by it) with his relentless pussy eating, and he even face-fucked the living daylights out of her before she finally got him to cum -- all over her face. The crew was in complete awe of how he went up against a professional cocksucker and completely schooled her -- "you tore her up, dude!" Shane's World should have hired both guys right then and there.
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Posted - May 23 2008 : 2:21PM
After having my way with 14 wayward Eurosluts, I can't imagine how I would be able to go into work the next day or week and do a middling standard single scene. Surely overstimulation occurs.
I couldn't disagree more with Mr. Pete. He ruins scenes off top for me. Greg Centauro, Frank Major and Mark Wood are probably my favorite white male performers. Rarely do American ones pass muster though. Favorites become even more quaint in that regard because American and Americanized white male talent can have that quiet off-putting effect of the verbose black male talent. As far as efficiency is concerned, generally speaking, Euro males are the best in the business.
TT Boy, Tom Byron, John Holmes, Randy Spears, Mark Ashley, Pat Myne, Jay Ashley, Julian, Voodoo are just a few of the white American porn stars that are as good as anyone, anywhere.
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Posted - May 28 2008 : 5:42PM
I concur with that. Whilst not a hard and fast rule, they tend to go about their business with a bit less imposing bravado and generally fuck harder too.
Hmmmm... I guess that just goes to show you can almost any kind of response to a topic... but I'm glad people are at reading this and making an effort... I think the topic was pretty clear that it was... present-tense... and young... I don't think dead or retired guys qualify. No offense, but LOL... Sadly, it seems like there are almost no young dudes to pair up with young hot chicks.
Hiya, Ok strong new guys? hmmmn... I got tons of great buddies in the biz who are also top performers but actually now I think about it, most of them are over 30. I'm not saying thats old, no way but I guess its not the young, white, college type lad we're talking about. Even though girls still seem to fall at the feet of newer guys like Jay R (Trisha calm down!) he is suprisingly 34! I dont know who the best guy is and like someone said I guess its down to personal opinion and what style you want to see. However here are three newer young white guys who havent been mentioned yet. IMHO they are firing on all cylinders and doing a great job - Mike Angelo 27 (FR) - Part of the team at Raul Christian's also a fair bit for Private. Kieran Lee 24 (UK) - Watch out for on Brazzers network. UKAP Male performer 2007. Danny Mountain 23 (UK)- Now US based with his lovely wife Eva Angelina. Check out all my latest news at www.kenistylesblog.com
Sir Holmes, I thoroughly enjoyed that picture too. Chris Clarke must have been enjoying himself, how is he doing these days. On the young talent vs 'old geezers' well since I'm pushing 44 I'm still in favourite of the 'older generation' because they're more gentle to the eye and are mentally stronger. When I go back in time, I simply adored John Leslie, Richard Pacheco and Jamie Gillis for different reasons. The last 2, gifted thespians as a matter of fact! Didn't think much of John Holmes and his 'french baguette' nor the faltering, humonguous tool of Dick Rambone. May look spectacular but the results were below par. ps Mr. Holmes, completely off topic: remember I asked you about Marlinda, well took your advice and bought 00Sex: she's NOT in there. Were you on any kind of medication :-) or did you mix up titles? Edited by - AugustC on 6/10/2008 5:33:57 PM
Everyone knows I love the new young guys! In my series, Pick "Em Young, it's all about me corrupting new guys into porn that are between the ages of 18-22 years old guaranteed. All the guys did an awesome job banging me. We are starting production for Pick 'Em Young 2 and I'm so excited about the new guys I've found... cuming soom:) Always Nasty, Alana
Then it's a good thing I wasn't replying to the topic and instead replying to an individual post. It's usually how threads evolve. Have you been visiting forums long? BTW, I forgot to mention Jules Jordan as one of the top white male talent. He's as good a performer as he is a director IMO. I know it's a matter of preference but I don't like the influx of euro and brazilian stars in the business. For the most part they seem like robotic fuck machines. Manuel Ferrera and Steve Holmes are two exceptions.
I loved the first film Alana and I'm glad you guys are finally shooting another one. I thought all the young guys did a great job in it. I think it proved to me that young guys can perform and perform well on camera. I'd add the Shane's World College Invasion as general proof that it can be done. I'd have to admit that the films by Alana and Shane's World aren't typical porn experiences. Not every female performer has the generally great attitude and personality as Alana or a lot of the girls Shane uses. Nor do the sets tend to be as stripped-down. I'd just think it's a lot easier to fuck in front of 1-2 people, as opposed to fucking in front of 10-15 people, and I think 10-15 tends to be more common. Seems the dynamics are generally different and the pressure not nearly as high. Time is money, and I get the impression a lot of directors and producers lack patience if things start going bad or aren't immediately going well. There doesn't appear to be any room for on-the-job training in porn. Don't get me wrong, I still believe it can be done. Fact is, even the pro's have off nights or bad days sometimes, so it's not like they score a hit everytime. For the most part, I'm tired of the excuses. Then again, it's not my money that could be burned or wasted.