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Shylock
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Posted - Jan 27 2009 : 2:12AM
Bobbi, Dana and Adrianna will be there working for Gazzman/Harmony.


SHYLOCK
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von_swine
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Posted - Jan 27 2009 : 2:18AM

Marie Luv wrote:
First thing 1st being the O.G. Spiegler Girl I agree with Bobbi...any new girl needs our approval also or else.
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yo, I have always been down for Marie Luv, but after this quote, she is officially GOLDEN! throwin out black eye icons is EPIC!!! God love you girl, you're always the real deal. lates, Von S.
Mastrick
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Posted - Jan 27 2009 : 8:05AM
Hoping to see Rocco join Max Hardcore one day soon in penitentiary. I'm tired of seeing this punk roughing up and spitting on women.
Bobbi Starr
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Posted - Jan 27 2009 : 10:32AM
Usually, I try not to respond to posts in which myself and another person disagree because I was raised that risking getting in an argument is just not worth it. Living by the Golden Rule and all.
However, I've had good luck on ADT with being able to talk to people were our opinions differ and we can still engage in a health debate.
I wanted to post a response I gave to an email I received yesterday because I feel it's a decent response. I'm not posting this with the hopes of turning everyone into a Rocco Siffredi fan because I am aware that hoping for that is just simply irrational.
Please, realize that this post is not to rock the boat and is not to offend anyone. I'm posting because the nice thing about the ADT forum is it's a safe and common ground were everyone can come and discuss their likes and dislikes and I love that.
Just remember, this is not a response to this post it is a response to an email I received, incase you're wondering why the subjects don't quite match. And to reiterate, I'm not offended. You'll never be able to please or make everyone happy. I realized this when I was a child.
So here I go:
...
Not everyone has the same sexual tastes. That's the great thing about sex and people. Everyone is different.
... I wasn't expecting everyone to have a positive reaction.
Actually, that's one great thing I've learned about Rocco. People either love him or hate him because he's extreme... All in all, opinions won't change him and that gives me the utmost respect for him.
I can have sex that doesn't result in bruises that is AMAZING.
I don't prefer one over the other.
The thing the sexually drives me crazy (in a good way) is the ability to completely let go and I can do that with Rocco.
With him sometimes the result is a bruise or two. But not always. I did another scene with him yesterday and I don't have one mark on my body.
With others I can have this experience and walk away looking as if nothing ever happened.
And I'm not just referring to porn performers. I'm talking about real life as well.
The ability to let go and not think about the camera or even anyone else who might be in the room is an amazing sensation.
It's very sexually powerful.
I hope I eased your worries. I wasn't offended and I didn't think your comment was dickish. I'm happy you posed because it gave me the opportunity to define the situation a little bit more.
Just remember, to each his/her own. However, you'll never really know until you try.
:)
Good to hear from you.
 
tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Jan 27 2009 : 12:57PM
I wasn't going to bother to post this, but after the post 2 up, I changed my mind.
Bobbi, feel free to confirm or deny what happened during the scene...
The night after Bobbi's scene, Rocco called John. One of the things they talked about was Rocco telling John that during the scene, he asked Bobbi if they should stop or go harder. Bobbi said she wanted to go harder.
I wasn't there. But I've met Bobbi several times, and I have an enormous amount of respect for her. I don't feel that she is a weak-minded female who just goes along with something and then ends up later wishing she had spoken her mind because secretly she had been wanting to say no.
Not everyone needs to like or even understand why some females enjoy rough sex. But I don't understand why it's wrong when a woman asks a guy to fuck her as hard as he can, and in the process she happens to get a couple of bruises. To say that Rocco belongs in jail for providing that kind of sexual ecstasy to a female who really loved it (and happily CHOSE to work with him again), would potentially lead another to thing that the female shouldn't be entitled to want that experience in the first place. I'm not ready to believe either of those things.
Derek117
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Posted - Jan 27 2009 : 4:06PM
^^Tricia, I respect your opinions most of the times. This, however, is not one of them. Porn that shows extreme, rough sex in which the woman comes away bruised hurts the industry image in the minds of the non-porn public. The same folks who sit on juries and judge pornographers. Not a good strategy.
What people like/do in their private lives, behind closed doors is their own business.
skronker
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Posted - Jan 27 2009 : 4:59PM
Should wait to see the actual scene to decide, shouldn't you?
I think this will be great to see Rocco directing strong American women instead of a lot of the pretty girl robots that show up in his Euro productions. It's one reason I've lost interest in his movies is it's always the same "new girl casting" scenario. And it's always boring. It's like watching cute little fuzzy bunnies get paved over by a monster truck. Although, maybe "Dirty Dreams 8" will be good ... Cecilia Vega, etc. And, better yet, no washy transfers from PAL!
Edited by - skronker on 1/27/2009 4:59:37 PM
jrv
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Posted - Jan 27 2009 : 8:52PM
Life comes with bumps & bruises and not a few risks. You can cower fearfully under the bedsheets - and die in bed - or you can go out and enjoy yourself and experience what the world has to offer.
How many American football players go home after a game with nary a scratch or bruise? I suspect that more than a few would take that as being a sign they did poorly and would be upset at the fact. It's not that the bruises were ever a goal unto themselves; they were just part of the cost of doing something the player wanted to do.
Risks are an even harder thing to grasp. Roughly 20%-25% of all people who have ever set foot on Mount Everest have died on the mountain; the death rate on other mountains reaches 40%. Yet the number attempting is always increasing and seems limited by logistics and cost, not by danger. None of them go to die: they're there to Climb That Mountain!, and they are so determined to do so they're willing to pay exorbitant costs and take extreme risks. Adventurers differ greatly in the risks they'll accept for any goal; about the only thing they agree on is that the worst possible way to die is in bed, never having even tried to climb that mountain or hike across Antarctica, etc, out of *fear*.
I feel safe in saying Bobbi didn't tell Rocco at the start "I want a bruise here." And a bruise is hardly the worse result possible from performing such a scene. But it appears she wanted to do that scene a certain way that went beyond cuddling the sofa, and that a bruise was a very minor price to pay for what she got - that bruise, and the fact nothing worse came of the shoot, represents Success!
tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Jan 27 2009 : 9:01PM
Derek-
I understand what you're saying, and on some days I'd be inclined to agree with you.
I've gotten a bit pessimistic, which comes and goes in waves. Currently, I'm a bit upset from watching my husband have to report to a probation officer every week. And that's for movies that don't even include consensual bruising (or bruising of any type).
I'm also currently of the opinion that no matter how "toned down" the movies would be, there'd be someone who wants them banned and wants the people making them to go to jail. I don't flaunt Evil Angel's movies in the faces of people who choose not to watch them, but I'm not ready to start censoring consenual material.
From everything I've heard about these scenes so far, I'll have no personal regrets about marketing them.
Shylock
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Posted - Jan 27 2009 : 11:27PM
Derek,
Rocco had Bobbi booked again a few days after that first "rough" scene and when Rocco had to postpone the scene Bobbi was kind of sad about it. However, when Rocco was able to reschedule the scene Bobbi was elated! Furthermore, Bobbi is going to (willingly I might add) shoot for Rocco again in Europe in April. So, I guess doing "rough" scenes with Rocco is no problem for Bobbi.
Regarding the legal system: Should any sort of legal action ensue from a scene between Rocco and Bobbi (or Rocco and any other Spieglergirl), I'm sure Bobbi (or any other Spieglergirl) would be willing to testify on Rocco's behalf wearing her/their "Rocco is my Boy Toy" t-shirt!
ROCCO is my Boy Toy.jpg


SHYLOCK
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skronker
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Posted - Jan 28 2009 : 12:22AM
JRV's answer was well put ... But then, I have pursued a good time right into the ER ... hahahah!
Marie Luv
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Posted - Jan 28 2009 : 12:54AM
Marie Luv
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Posted - Jan 28 2009 : 12:56AM
I can't help it...especially when it comes to girls trying to join our crew. And you know I have the same love for u.
miscreant70
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Posted - Jan 28 2009 : 12:37PM
Are there likely to be any PR opportunities? Interviews, that kind of thing?
 
Shylock
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Posted - Jan 28 2009 : 3:19PM
miscreant70,
Just contact:
Jason Maskell
Harmony Films Ltd
Sales & Marketing Manager
Office - +44 (0)20 8559 2736
Email - jason@harmonyuk.com
http://www.harmonyuk.com/


SHYLOCK
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Derek117
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Posted - Jan 28 2009 : 9:48PM
I hear you, Tricia. I wish you & John the best of luck during these difficult times. Both of you have contributed much to the industry.
Shylock
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Posted - Feb 21 2009 : 11:56PM
Just received the "Rocco is my Boy Toy" t-shirts for Kristina Rose, Adrianna Nicole, Dana DeArmond and Bobbi Starr (I also got one for Tricia).

Rocco T-Shirt.jpg

What do you all think?



SHYLOCK
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DanaDeArmond
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Posted - Feb 23 2009 : 12:24AM
im getting my shirt tomorrow. stoked!
Harri Patel
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Posted - Feb 23 2009 : 12:48PM
Does it say "nasty . . . nasty . . . nasty" on the back?
tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Feb 23 2009 : 1:18PM
Mark-
Do you or any of the girls have pics from their scenes with Rocco? I forget to get copies of the scene stills from Rocco before he left to go back to Europe, but I'm going to email him today to ask him for stills in advance of the edited movies.
Shylock
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Posted - Feb 23 2009 : 4:13PM
Tricia,
I only have 1 picture taken on the set. I know it ain't much, but I'll e-mail it to you.



SHYLOCK
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tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Feb 23 2009 : 4:58PM
Thanks. :)
It's not ADT-friendly, but Adrianna looks beautiful.
I'll use it at insideevilangel.com and when I get some softcore ones from Rocco, I'll post them here.
ma meeshka
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Posted - Feb 23 2009 : 8:14PM
softcore and rocco in the same sentence. never thought i'd see it.
sleepy_sidewinder
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Posted - Feb 27 2009 : 5:05PM
OK , I wanna say a few things :
-I think that You (Bobbi) shouldn´t have posted these pictures, only because it might cause wrong interpretations.people like me that adores you don´t want to see you with bruises/hurted. we want to see you always pretty , smiling, and with a natural face of enjoying the sex scenes.But if you´re proud of showing them and if you really enjoyded , i think that´s fine.
-i watched a few rocco movies and i can say that i never saw anything that i would consider very degrading. i just see rough sex scenes.He did a scene with jewel de nile in a toilet too(animal trainer 15), so i dont know why so many talking.
-I consider rocco a great actor and a director who cares about the female cast. i saw a movie called rocco more than ever part 2 where various males piss in a woman's mouth.( i would let bobbi pee in my mouth anytime,anywhere,by the way) and in the end of the movie rocco explains that everything was consented(like bobbi scene)rocco always seemed to me a passionate lover and a sweetest man.
-Bobbi ,you are the best pornstar in the world so what you should do is only take care of yourself and do only what you enjoy and want to do in sex scenes.
we love you
We can have some more.(Bobbi and rocco or Bobbi and Me)
Nature is a whore.(Bobbi isn´t a Whore .That´s for sure)
Bruises on the fruit.(Bruises on bobbi´s face)
Tender age in bloom.
Nirvana
Nevermind
In Bloom 1991 Words and music by Kurt Cobain (1967-1994)
A very big kiss to you BOBBI STARR

 
Bobbi Starr
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Posted - Mar 2 2009 : 1:43AM
Well, lucky for me I am free to do as I enjoy in this industry, which includes letting myself go farther in scenes than I have before with people I trust and posting freely on ADT. I've always been an honest and open performer and I feel that my fan appreciate that.
I don't think those pictures cause the wrong impression because I'm pretty sure the implied impression is: Rocco hit me in the face until it bruised and I did not stop him because I enjoyed it.
If the people have interpreted the picture as otherwise then hopefully that statement will sent all concerned minds to ease.
And lucky for you and my other fans, ADT is a safe place to openly discuss our likes and dislikes.
Keep posting.
I enjoy talking about my scenes and my own likes and dislikes and I'm aware of the fact that not all of us will agree 100% of the time and I'm ok with that.
Richie04
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Posted - Mar 2 2009 : 9:07AM
Shylock
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Posted - Mar 2 2009 : 10:10PM
Dana and Bobbi with their new t-shirts:

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SHYLOCK
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tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Mar 3 2009 : 12:37AM
All I have to say, is thank goodness Dana cut her hair. Before, I used to have to depend on eyecolor to tell the two of them apart. Now I can tell at a glance.
I'll take a pic of me in my tshirt this week. Thank you Mark!!
Oh, and Rocco is very flattered that the girls were so pleased with their scenes.
Crucifixio_Jones
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Posted - Mar 3 2009 : 1:33AM
If you think those two favor each other so much that you have to go to some minute detail like EYE COLOR to tell them apart you're in trouble. Here's to hoping you never have to take the witness stand as an eye witness to any major crime.
Maybe I'm in the minority but I have NEVER confused the two of them. I'm not saying this because I claim to be special or some sort of recognition expert, I just don't think that other than both of them being white and being brunettes, that they look anything alike. I'm surprised anyone does, to be honest. I think the comparisons are a bit overblown, honestly. It's starting to get like the Ashlynn Brooke/Bree Olson look-a-like talk and those are two other girls who I think look nothing alike. Well, at least not enough to ever confuse them.
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sleepy_sidewinder
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Posted - Mar 3 2009 : 9:07AM
Oh, you've got green eyes
Oh, you've got blue eyes
Oh, you've got gray eyes
Oh, you've got green eyes
Oh, you've got blue eyes
Oh, you've got gray eyes
And I've never seen anyone quite like you before
No, I've never met anyone quite like you before
Thoughts from above hit the people down below
People in this world, we have no place to go
Oh, it's the last time
Oh, I've never met anyone quite like you before

New Order
Temptation
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Thank you Bobbi for answering my post
Always take care
I love you.
tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Mar 3 2009 : 1:43PM
I think Ashlynn and Bree look a LOT alike, but I haven't confused them.
I shouldn't have implied that eyecolor is the ONLY difference I see in Dana and Bobbi. But for me, it was the easiest and most consistent way to make sure I had it straight when they were fully clothed. They have a very similar facial structure, and because sometimes Dana would be paler and somtimes darker, I couldn't go by skincolor. Dana's weight also fluctuated which made her face shape slightly different at times. Once I learned the other differences, I didn't have to go by eyecolor, but it was how I learned to tell them apart. And yes, I'll admit to calling Dana "Bobbi" by accident a couple times before then.
I wasn't a Dana fan in the beginning.
What... you think black people should have the monopoly on supposedly all looking the same? That's so racist. lol If white people all had the same hair color, a lot more white people would look like each other.
Shylock
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Posted - Mar 12 2009 : 2:55PM
Kristina - Rocco T-Shirt'.jpg



SHYLOCK
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Edited by - shylock on 3/13/2009 2:21:58 AM
David Starsky
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Posted - Mar 13 2009 : 6:30AM
^Aww...Amazing. Just the cutest picture.
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Harri Patel
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Posted - Aug 20 2009 : 6:06PM
Oh, wow, they used a black toilet. Is that a first for Rocco?
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