I posted this on the adult webmaster board i visit regularly. I was just bored and couldn't think of anything to post so posted this. But now I'm intrigued. If anybody would know who was the first director/studio/website to start the throat fucking/gagging/banging craze it would be somebody here. So who was it? What movie was the first to have what he all now recognize as this genre of blowjob?
Well it's that time of year again, when the Nobel Prize committee starts the nomination process.
So i was wondering who is responsible for the latest fad in pornography, throat fucking. Who was the first to shoot this stuff? Some webmaster? Max Hardcore? Nah - his dick ain't big enough to qualify as throat fucking. JM Productions' Gag Factor?
Somebody please stand up and take credit, I have an 'in' with the Nobel people.
Definitely, Max. There were always a handful of girls who could deepthroat, but it was Max who discovered the commercial value of force feeding his manhood down the throats of lovely teen starlets, to the point of gagging and tearing and ultimately puking.
Brandon Iron brought the whole thing to another level, I heard he fucked the shit out of Ashley Blue's throat in Service Animals 10, anyone see that? Brandon Iron is the master at throat fucking because he's got a big dick and has perfect timing about making sure how far to go down the girls mouth. Throat Fucking is awesome, I just wanna say that girls getting into these Throat Gaggers or Service Animals movies to "Practice your deep throating skills, because IMO that is how you'll get booked more often on the gonzo market."
The first (and only) throat I ever actually fucked belonged to none other than Little Oral Annie. She had NO gag reflex, so you could actually pump your cock in and out of the back of her throat.
The Max/Brandon style technically isn't fucking, just bangin the tip of the penis at the back of the mouth until gagging ensues. Until you can make balls deep , continuous strokes in the throat, you can't really call it "fucking"
So Max is technically not the inventor of throat fucking. L.O. Annie claims that prize.
Max Hardcore set the example a long log time ago when it comes to throat fucking, the same goes for gapes btw. Many people complain about Max Hardcore and his hardcore style yet they can't deny how many people have copied his style!
Hundreds of people have copied Max! 11 years ago, Max was gaping girls and calling it "stove piping"! Max brought all of the glory to throat fucking! After Max did about his 800th scene of throat fucking, Skeeter copied Max for the very first Gag Factor for JM Productions, which is owned by Jeff Stewards blackend heart. Skeeter asked legendary Jim Powers "The most prolific director/producer in the history of porn, can I make Bridgette puke when I fuck her throat? Jim said hell yes! Do it, Jeff will love it. 2 years later, throat gaggers was started at Red Light District by Brandon Irons. Brandon was in the early gag factors directed by Jim Lane! To quote Skeeter Kerkove: Jim Lane/Jim Powers made Jeff Mike a millionaire. Nobody in porn has produced and directed as many movies as Jim Lane/Jim Powers. No male performer in the past 10 years has performed in more sex scenes then Dave Hardman. Yesterday Dave did 2 scenes for me, both scenes had 4 D.P. positions, cowgirl double anal and standing double anal. Then today, Dave did 2 scenes for Skeeter, so in 32 hours Dave Hardman did 4 sex scenes. The only other guys in their 40's who can do that, would be Steve Holmes and Chris Charming. Bridgette Kerkove "Full throttle double anal will make any anal queen cum"
Max was the first to make Throat Fucking a regular thing in his videos, but I think it was really the 'Slap Happy' series that spawned the industry wide explosion of Gag Factor/Throat Gaggers-style face fucking.
Just like Rough Sex 1 & 2, the Slap Happy series seemed like it went a little too far, but then it was followed by a flood of material just as intense:
Dirty Trixx, Tough Love, I Love It Rough, Fashionistas, Slave Dolls, Girlvert, Lady Fellatio, Mason's Sexual Disorder, Assploitations, Back 2 Evil, Ass Slaves, Service Animals, Ass Stretchers, Pull My Hair and Call Me Stupid. Everything from Rocco, Nacho, Mason, Brandon, Skeeter, Jake or Joey. And have you seen what Max has been doing lately? Does it represent the future of porn? I guess that girls puking on other girls faces might be industry standard ten years from now.
It's getting so you just expect all porn to have a little face slapping, hair pulling, spitting and rough deepthroat.
ps. I also think Anastasia Blue played a major role in the throatfucking movement. Before her, the girls who specialized in deepthroating were usually the ones who could control their gag reflex. She made waves by gagging on L.Steele and making herself puke in Anabolic Initiations(#?). And she kept choking and gagging herself to the point of tears in most of her scenes. She really raised the bar for throatfuckees. Ashley Blue has the same spirit. Tracheomasochism?
ok what is the word on Pull My hair and call me stupid, hmm? i'm always looking for more hairpull doggy fucking.. there should be a whole dvd devoted to this sort of sex.
Mulepat, I would like to know how Pull My Hair and Call Me Stupid and Ass Slaves are just because of the wonderful titles. Tough Love by Jim Powers was nonsense compared to Khan Tusion's Rough Sex #1 and #2.
Max Hardcore is the first director/actor I recall throat fucking. I would say throat fucking has more to do with the attitude, (Max's average-sized dick and gigantic sized caveman attitude) than the gag reflex of Little Oral Annie (any horse-sized cock will do).
What I don't understand about the pornographic genius, Max Hardcore, is why does he have women vomit all over the place. Other than a non-enema anal scene, I can't think of something more dick softening than puke all over everywhere, so "I can be skinny too, Mister". Max, you make the best rough-edged porn around, but please no vomit. And my last name isn't Bush.
I dunno I prefer Tough Love for some reason.. I think it is better shot and edited (thoughtits not without its problems). There's not as many closeups...
I'm not a fan of Max, but I love the SLAP HAPPY series for throat fucking. But they seem to be getting hard to find. I have 1 & 2 and want no. 3.
As far as why people like this, I think there's an actual category for this type of thing. I once heard someone use the word "Reflexophile." I think this would pertain more to the person vomiting, so maybe the enjoyment of seeing a throat get fucked should be called "Reflexophilia By Proxy."
Also, you people are forgetting a movie called Skull Fucked. I don't remember who put it out or who directed it, but I think there were only 2 or 3 of them. As for Slap Happy, I believe there were four made, the last being the valentine's day massacre or something like that. About 6 scenes in, there was a girl that couldn't take it, don't remember who she was, but wasn't telling the actor/director who I beliebe was Alec Hydell - a man who bears a striking resemblence to Brandon iron. The scene was stopped and a "normal" BJ scene ensued. The rest of the film was referred to by the director as slap happy lite. There was a trailer for a fifth called something like Penis Punching Bags, but it never came out, and Mr. Hydell was no more.
By the way, I DO see a little resemblence between Brandon Iron and Gary Oldman from JFK.
"As far as why people like this, I think there's an actual category for this type of thing. I once heard someone use the word "Reflexophile"
I don't know do you think it could be the suffocation aspect of it too? or do you think the spit/gagging is the turn on. I am genuinly curious, as a participant I like the breath play part, but I wonder what the watchers like. For the viewer it couldnt be the breath beacuse why would there be so much emphasis on the mess.I feel a poll coming on!
Well, personally, I like the mess - nastiness. And the domination, the idea of control. The messier and rougher it is, the better. But, I don't like actual vomit unless it's mostly liquid. I know that sounds disgusting, but hey...that's me. You know, there's another aspect I never even thought of until just now. When a girl has an orgasm, much of the time her stomach flutters and spasms. I LOVE that. It's my favorite part of any scene that involves her pleasure (i.e. not a BJ scene - I know a girl can get pleasure from giving it, but I mean a more direct approach). So, with that in mind, when someone vomits their stomach clenches, obviously, and I guess that could approximate the same flutter of orgasm. I think I'm reaching, though. Anyone else have any ideas?
Yeah me too, I don't like colored, chunky food vomit --thats just too much for me. but i like liquidy, maybe transparent, drool type vomit, if you know what i mean.
question: is there any movie where the girl gets back at the guy but throat fucking HIM? like with a strap on or something...it would be interesting to see the roles switched and see the guy's reaction (after he does a good number on her throat of course)
Yes, I most definitely know what you mean. Check out "Skull Fucked 1" if you can find it. There's one scene that includes some girl on a bed in doggie position getting skull fucked and she pukes like 6 times right in a row, It's all liquidy like she drank a gallon of water before the scene. Production isn't that great, but that one scene was damn good.
What Skeeter did in the first Gag Factor, shot 4 years ago, he dad me drink a little bit of a milkshake about half an hour before the scene. That and a ton of saliva was in my vomit. Never the less, Max did it 8 years before that! Bridgette Kerkove
I know I watched a few video's in 98 & 99 called Skull Fucked. The goal of each scene was to make the girl puke all over the guys dick by forcing it down her throat and and not letting her up until she had no choice but vomit. Not sure if it was the first but it was the first time I saw it. Skull Fucked
As far as I can tell, they're the same, throat and head fucking. The difference between Deep Throating and Skull/face/throat/head fucking is deep throating is of the girl's volition, while throat fucking is basically jerking off using her mouth instead your own fist.