who popularized anal porn (page 2)

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elgringoviejo58 Senior Member 1460 Posts 1/07	Posted - Feb 27 2011 : 6:18PM My reading of sublimeaxer's initial post indicates that he is clearly referring to porn, not popular culture. [Link]
ALGreen99 Member The state of your room is the state of your mind. 72 Posts 5/11	Posted - Jun 5 2011 : 3:44PM Vanessa Del Rio did. [Link]
NeonToastForaWhiteGhost Deactivated User 32 Posts 6/11	Posted - Jun 5 2011 : 4:15PM I always thought it was due to the proliferation of gay performers crossing over into heterosexual porn,especially all the modern circus anal stuff. My theory is a lot of this rage anal may have to do with homosexuals who would just rather not be doing women at all deciding to annihilate them. My stance may not be popular but it's a fact many performers who are male are either bisexual or flat out 'straight for pay.' Oddly enough a poster can harangue a starlet at will about doing anal but the same leeway is never given when someone asks her about being an 'equal-opportunity' clean test let's get it on performer. [Link]
Anus Member 69 Posts 5/11	Posted - Jun 5 2011 : 8:33PM ^ Misogyny, sexual sadism, sexual masochism, creeping extremism from becoming desensitized... Who knows? The anus makes an easy target. Few seem to understand or care what it's supposed to look like, and people are usually willing to ignore damage to it. [Link]

bigfoot Senior Member 1295 Posts 7/06	Posted - Jun 5 2011 : 11:54PM Anyone remember Marilyn Chambers? How about her blockbuster 1980 movie "Insatiable" where the tiny Ms Chambers took John Holmes in the ass? Seka was the most consistent, desirable ingenue in the 1970's who didn't mind anal and DP and for that, I thank her. As to who started the modern trend, I gotta give props to Sylvia Saint who seemingly performed anal in every scene for three years or so until the 2000's began. She was sooo beautiful and attracted many Americans to spend their $$$$ for some good anal themed sex when the hotties at the time (Jenna Jameson and the contract girls) wouldn't let a dick anywhere near her ass. Many women, including Rocco's girls and women like Angel Dark took the baton and introduced Americans into HEAVY ANAL THEMED SEX which was mostly lacking as a genre. Sure, there were some series (i.e. Caught from behind), but they did not spark an industry the way that Rocco did or the way Euro porn influenced porn in those years. Little by little, American companies (Evil Angel, Elegant Angel, Jules Jordan, etc.,) and American pornstars were embracing Anal. Suddenly, it became cool to take it up the ass. just ask Jenna Haze how much her career ramped up after she stopped doing girl-girl and hopped aboard the gonzo express. How about when Kylie Ireland was no longer a contract star. She led the way for other contract stars to do anal. How about when Belladonna came on the scene and became the pornstars pornstar and director. Her porn is insane, anally themed and awesome. [Link]
horndogger Deactivated User 229 Posts 8/04	Posted - Jun 6 2011 : 1:11AM European porn was a big contributor. Private video productions and magazines driven by Pierre Woodman. There was also legendary anal shooters in Europe such as Christoph Clark and J Y Lecastel with his Assman series through Anabolic. In North America there have been lots as previously mentioned. We must not forget the likes of Rosebud Video which produced so many anal titles. There were some honorable mentions as well like Cream Entertainment under John T. Bone and Extreme Assoiciates. Horndogger [Link]
Imperator Member 117 Posts 4/11	Posted - Jun 6 2011 : 2:34PM ^^^^^ I will agree with the above. Anal was "specialty" in 70s and 80s American porn. There were some specialised series like Caught From Behind, some specialised performers who were always called upon to do a scene in an otherwise vanilla movie (e.g Connie Peterson, Buffy Davis, Rectal Ryan :)) and the odd superstar here and there that did it intermittently (Veronica Hart, Seka, Marilyn Chambers, Ginger Lynn) De Renzy/Borsky's "Anal [Noun]" movies for Rosebud in the turn of the 90s weren't different from that tradition. They were also not very good IMO. Meanwhile in Europe anal was becoming a feature of mainstream scenes after the move to video. Up to that point French porn was similar to US: there was also a "Golden Age" period between 1976-84, with the odd superstar like Marilyn Jess doing a few anal scenes here and there (the biggest star of all, Brigitte Lahaie, has only 2 disputed anal scenes in her credit; I think one is certainly stunt-arsed, the second looks borderline genuine). But around the turn of the decade things changed; Marc Dorcel/Michel Ricaud videos had a much higher anal content, for their A-list girls as well (Carole Tredille, Sandrine Van Herpe), and over in Italy and Germany Moanna Pozzi, Sarah Young and Teresa Orlowski were doing anal in EVERY SCENE. Then the Curtain fell, and all the incredible ex-commie beauties came to porn. But before they came to the US, they first went to France, Germany and Italy where anal was a requirement for every scene. And the anal revolution was a fact. In my opinion this 1991-1999 period was the Golden Age of anal; beautiful girls doing it in every scene, but without revolting stuff like A2M, gaping or ejaculating inside the ass so that the sperm can be shitted out for the camera (who the hell finds this sexy?). All this crap is Made in the USA. Unfortunately, among its many merits the US also has a big problem in its make up: it's the country of excess. So, when our Euro lovelies brought their beautiful bums over to the New World they had to add all the aforementioned shock material to keep people interested. I would call Rob Black the American anal porn pioneer - he started all the spitting, gaping and A2M bullshit. It obviously sold well, because everybody copied him. At that point I switched off, quit writing reviews and turned to lez for my personal porn fix. But that's a story for another day. Imperator [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Jun 6 2011 : 3:10PM I'm gonna take a wild stab in the dark and guess that the first man in history who noticed a woman has an asshole as well as a pussy probably had the most natural reaction that is humanly possible for a man to have to such an observation. Men being what they are, his next thought was almost undoubtedly how he could get his dick up her ass, how soon he could get it up in there and for how long he could keep it there. This bare fact, unfortunately, has been followed by many thousands (perhaps millions?) of years of some men trying to deny what they are. Anal porn was as inevitable as soap operas and Lifetime TV. Edited by - randomprecision on 6/6/2011 3:13:13 PM [Link]
Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02	Posted - Jun 6 2011 : 4:08PM If nothing else, the domestication of dogs may have led to experimenting with anal sex, because inserting tab A into the wrong slot isn't uncommon when dogs go at it. [Link]
Zen Master 2007 Member 356 Posts 3/07	Posted - Jun 7 2011 : 7:39PM Rosebud Video titles were the first in the United States to regularly feature anal gaping. - Zen [Link]
torris Senior Member Deep within Mila's anus 1827 Posts 1/00	Posted - Jun 7 2011 : 8:39PM BlackSix wrote: Anal was always a selling point, but it didn't come to dominate porn until the mid-to-late 80s. ========= Do you really think so? I started collecting porn in the mid 80s and I remember as a callow 20 year old Montana hick thinking, "anal is something non-fags do? Cool." I remember that anal was sort of slid into the movie/sex scenes not called out so heavily as today. And as good anal scenes became more apparent in the video era (I.e. Reagan's second term), it could support lines like Caught From Behind. I think my two earliest anal scenes (still two of my favorite) was Gina Valentino (cute brunette) in Tracy in Heaven and black sylph Sahara in Girls of the A Team; gotta love Western Visuals So, I'm not denying that anal wasn't prevalent in the early 80s, I just take some issue with it being promoted as a major selling point back then [Link]
torris Senior Member Deep within Mila's anus 1827 Posts 1/00	Posted - Jun 7 2011 : 8:55PM BumBum wrote: I agree with Rosco. The Loose Ends series was so much better than Caught From Behind it was amazing. A few years later, if my chronology is correct, came Buttman. And from there on, it's popularity has exploded. Click to expand Strange. I was never a fan of any of Bruce Seven's stuff. Definitely loved all the early Rosebud anals too, but have next to nothing from Seven in my collection [Link]
Imperator Member 117 Posts 4/11	Posted - Jun 8 2011 : 10:03AM torris wrote: BumBum wrote: I agree with Rosco. The Loose Ends series was so much better than Caught From Behind it was amazing. A few years later, if my chronology is correct, came Buttman. And from there on, it's popularity has exploded. Click to expand Strange. I was never a fan of any of Bruce Seven's stuff. Definitely loved all the early Rosebud anals too, but have next to nothing from Seven in my collection Click to expand The first couple of Loose Ends were rather good, as was #6 which was the best of the lot (Megan Leigh DP, and Rectal Ryan and pre-boobjob Bionca in great form). But Bruce 7 was already beginning to overdo it with the oil and rubber-glove lez stuff so I never held them in great esteem. De Renzy as Borsky was an bizarre regression for a porn legend as he went absolutely bananas with the extreme closeup and the weird wide-angle shots; too may anal scene were also shot from the comparatively unflattering missionary position - anal without seeing the buns is a bit like a hotdog without ketchup). Stagliano got into the all-anal scene late, if indeed he got in it at all. Most of his stuff until 95-96 either had one or two anal scenes (usually memorable, like Zara in Ultimate Workout) or not at all. I think the original Big Breast Adventure had no anal at all, but it's been years since I saw it and I can't be arsed to look it up in the iafd. Imperator PS BTW, coo-ee, Torris. It's nice to see someone still posting after all these years without hiatus... :) [Link]
bmnot Member I love interactive movies. 114 Posts 3/11	Posted - Jun 8 2011 : 9:53PM In my opinion, the concept of Assworship (Upclose shots of Asses, Facesitting, etc) was in large part popularized by John Allen Stagliano aka Buttman. Atleast his series and magazines were what I first came across which had more authentic production and star talent. [Link]

torris Senior Member Deep within Mila's anus 1827 Posts 1/00	Posted - Jun 9 2011 : 10:30PM Imperator wrote: Then the Curtain fell, and all the incredible ex-commie beauties came to porn. But before they came to the US, they first went to France, Germany and Italy where anal was a requirement for every scene. And the anal revolution was a fact. ============== +1 Private made anal "predictable" and with some really gorgeous runway model types taking it in the ass and much higher ratio of DP's. Even today the truly beautiful girls in porn are coming out of Eastern Europe. Especially Romania. It's like the more remote the Eastern European bim the more depraved. So I would expect Chechen or Georgian (Ex soviet UNion) girls even better Imperator: In my opinion this 1991-1999 period was the Golden Age of anal; beautiful girls doing it in every scene, but without revolting stuff like A2M, gaping or ejaculating inside the ass so that the sperm can be shitted out for the camera (who the hell finds this sexy?). All this crap is Made in the USA. (Torris)...no pun intended. But Imperator: can't you see a2m, asskimo pies and gaping as the logical evolution of anal saturation. And you're wrong my friend about that being a wholly (hole-ly hard de har) US phemonmenon. After all wasn't it Jean Yves Castel who coined "beeem" celebrating Eurogape. And truly you have to include both Rocco and Nacho in the anal rutting/face stomping excess you find revolting. (Imp): I would call Rob Black the American anal porn pioneer - he started all the spitting, gaping and A2M bullshit. It obviously sold well, because everybody copied him. At that point I switched off, quit writing reviews and turned to lez for my personal porn fix. But that's a story for another day. Imperator Click to expand Black's stuff just left me cold and unaroused. Like Insane Clown Posse porn or something. I think the blame you should lay this on is Vince Voyeur esp. at Red Light District. Plus Jon Dough at Diabolic/Anabolic. Something like Cumfart Cocktails? That is like mother's milk to those of us in the grip (ha hah) of Porn Drift. I really think though that Jules Jordan and Tom Byron should be credited for sensualizing the gape. It's not just about prolapse blowout. I can't remember what movie I saw Jenna Haze ask in hope if she was gaping, those are the things in porn that keep the jaded porn drift devotee in the game. [Link]
torris Senior Member Deep within Mila's anus 1827 Posts 1/00	Posted - Jun 9 2011 : 10:35PM Imperator wrote: [ PS BTW, coo-ee, Torris. It's nice to see someone still posting after all these years without hiatus... :) Click to expand Always good to relink with a refugee from rec.arts.movies.erotica. I had to go on the lam for a while after Brandy Alexandre declared Jihad against me but glad to see ADT pickinp up the slack. [Link]
BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07	Posted - Jun 9 2011 : 10:40PM torris wrote: Do you really think so? I started collecting porn in the mid 80s and I remember as a callow 20 year old Montana hick thinking, "anal is something non-fags do? Cool." So, I'm not denying that anal wasn't prevalent in the early 80s, I just take some issue with it being promoted as a major selling point back then Click to expand Anal was way more common in europorn in the 70s and 80s and from what I've seen was featured prominently in a lot of loops. It wasn't common in most features though, as you say. [Link]
torris Senior Member Deep within Mila's anus 1827 Posts 1/00	Posted - Jun 9 2011 : 10:43PM Favorite 80s anal sluts 1. Vanessa Del Rio 2. Sahara 3. Siobahn Hunter 4. Elle Rio 5. Keli Richards Favorite 80s anal (few scenes) 1. Bridgette Monet - Stiff Competition; coule be stunt butt 2. Kari Foxx 3. Nicole Noir (Nicole Black) - Naughty Network, in the original she takes a coke bottle in the ass as well 4. Laurie Smith 5. Tamara Longley [Link]
torris Senior Member Deep within Mila's anus 1827 Posts 1/00	Posted - Jun 9 2011 : 10:45PM Top 5 80s anal escapees 1. Angel 2. Christy Canyon 3. Krista Lane 4. Racuel Darrian 5. Heather Hunter [Link]
Imperator Member 117 Posts 4/11	Posted - Jun 10 2011 : 5:28AM Re: "Made in the USA" accusations. You're right, Torris, in pointing a dirty finger to J-Y LeCastel, Rocco and Nacho Vidal. You could have added Cristof Clark and Pierre Woodman as well. Sure, Europeans can be as, or even more, sociopathic as Americans :). But this work of theirs was shot for and distributed by purely American studios (EA most notably), or multi-national entities like Private which is European in origin and staffing but is global in selling scope. In any event, supply can only tell us half the story. Demand patterns hint at "anal creep" being driven more by the ol' US of A. As Ι said, Europeans can be filthy enough. Germany pretty much wrote the book on watersports after all. But pushing the anal envelope really seems something that you lot over the pond drove harder at. I find it notable for instance that LeCastel could be a charming performer in his Dorcel days (he can still be charming actually, in between "matador" RAC actress-lifts) and then go bananas for Private. Rocco may have analled pretty much every actress in his Italian days, but he only started dunking heads in toilets only after he started his EA affiliation. Imperator [Link]
Asmodeus Lord of Lust az-mo-day-us 6338 Posts 10/01	Posted - Jun 10 2011 : 6:05AM Raquel Darrian was my fave 80s porn babe and it's a damn shame she never did take a hard cock up her ass, at least on film - let alone any interracial anal. I was so enthralled with her, I'd have taken a second mortgage just to see her sweet ass impaled on Ray Victory's boner. [Link]
torris Senior Member Deep within Mila's anus 1827 Posts 1/00	Posted - Jun 10 2011 : 1:15PM Imperator wrote: Re: "Made in the USA" accusations. In any event, supply can only tell us half the story. Demand patterns hint at "anal creep" being driven more by the ol' US of A. As É said, Europeans can be filthy enough. Germany pretty much wrote the book on watersports after all. But pushing the anal envelope really seems something that you lot over the pond drove harder at. I find it notable for instance that LeCastel could be a charming performer in his Dorcel days (he can still be charming actually, in between "matador" RAC actress-lifts) and then go bananas for Private. Rocco may have analled pretty much every actress in his Italian days, but he only started dunking heads in toilets only after he started his EA affiliation. Imperator Click to expand I like that term "anal creep". Could have multiple meanings [Link]
Imperator Member 117 Posts 4/11	Posted - Jun 10 2011 : 6:29PM "Anal Creep" could have easily been a Borsky title in the early 90s :) "Anal Envelope", too Imp. Edited by - Imperator on 6/10/2011 6:30:22 PM [Link]
BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07	Posted - Jun 10 2011 : 10:46PM This forum is full of anal creeps. [Link]

budtugley Senior Member One man's trash can be the next man's treasure. 1187 Posts 1/04	Posted - Jun 11 2011 : 1:17AM Anal became more available about 1984 or so. There was some fare out there but it wasn't anything like it became. I own the first Caught From Behind and there's about 3 minutes of warning that the video contains ANAL SEX and if you find that to be offensive, don't watch anymore because there's ANAL SEX in this video. You read that right. ANAL SEX, if you think it's sick, filthy, and disgusting, don't watch this video, it has ANAL SEX. I'm paraphrasing by the way. Quite comical. The first lady that did anal on at least an occasional basis was Georgina Spelvin. Devil In Miss Jones was the first what might be called mainstream porn that did it AFAIK. I'm sure there was anal on 8MM film, but the quality would be bad by today's standards. Bear in mind that producers and performers were prosecuted for prostitution and pandering back then, and anal sex was illegal in many states. Theaters that dared to show it risked large legal bills to defend their right to show porn of any sort, anal would bring overzealous district attorneys down on them like flies on fresh dog turds. Over in Europe, Private did anal early and often, but it was harder to obtain, US Customs seized porn if they found it. What really happened was the advent of VHS machines that allowed private viewing in the comfort and safety of one's living room or bedroom. They were expensive in the beginning, and porn movies cost like $75 for 75 minutes of action. In 1984 or so, VHS players became more affordable, porn sales went up, prices came down, and you know the rest. [Link]
bmnot Member I love interactive movies. 114 Posts 3/11	Posted - Jun 13 2011 : 2:32AM brazilian girls do anal as good if not better than euro girls. EA, with John Staglino and Nacho, really took force down there in shooting exotic girls, before that most hc scenes were with E. euro girls mostly. [Link]
jbull Member 101 Posts 2/09	Posted - Jul 25 2011 : 3:19PM i still want to see Rambone Actually have anal sex with Buffy Davis,that was faked, in Rambone Does Hollywood,supposidely she took J.C.Holmes too,never been able to find that filmed scene..... [Link]
Endless Loop Senior Member Tomatometer 1129 Posts 8/04	Posted - Jul 27 2011 : 6:17AM This thread has been a trip down memory lane, a recounting of the anal pilgrims who specialized, or dedicated their careers to ass fucking, and became all to familiar to anal fans up to, and through the turn of anal prohibition. Many could have made far greater strides, or more pronouced marks had it not been for the religiously formulaic demands, of their feature driven directors. While Gonzo began reshaping the industry as a whole and anal along with it, from the perspective of this hardcore anal fan, Max Hardcore ushered in a raw form of anal content, which even today stands equal to, if not above the best material available, and therefore imo is most responsible for popularizing anal porn. As for the defining film of recognition (among others in the series), The Adventures of Max Hardcore #3 "Between the Lines" Starring a very young, instrumentally slutty, and meteoric in her own right, "Tiffany Minx". Edited by - Endless Loop on 7/27/2011 12:20:57 PM [Link]
Peoples Temple Member People tell lies my friend. Some people like publicity. I don't like publicity. 674 Posts 5/11	Posted - Jul 27 2011 : 1:51PM I think you have to look to 60s European porn directors who were the pioneers of anal porn. It took hold in the USA in the 70s. Even today, the European porn may have more anal sex than vaginal sex. If you look at 70s porn, you will see a lot more anal action in European releases than you will on American releases. [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Jul 27 2011 : 2:58PM I remember many anal scenes in European seventies many of them with John Holmes also I remember a FANTASTIC (French ?) porn actress whose stage name was simply "Esther" which was specialized in anal sex she did at least 20 loops I didn't see them all but I think the most part of them if not them all were anal , all those I saw BTW were anal she was incredible , the pocs at the link above aren't fair with her she was cute as hell and with a really innocent looking she was really gorgeous Also I remember one of my favourite Kari Foxx who did a number of anal scenes not to mention the fantastic Paula Price but both worked in the eightyes [Link]
budtugley Senior Member One man's trash can be the next man's treasure. 1187 Posts 1/04	Posted - Jul 27 2011 : 6:07PM Georgina Spelvin was married to Anthony Spinelli the porn director, really a pioneer in porn and anal-themed porn. His brother was Jack Weston a familiar actor to most of you. Spinelli was brave or foolhardy depending on how you looked at it. I lean towards brave, he knew he would be prosecuted and was. He directed porn movies in the early 1970's and continued until his health took a turn for the worse and he passed away shortly after. [Link]
Katvena Member Rocco & Nacho are the KINGS OF HARDCORE and yes I am a Red Blooded WOMAN 402 Posts 8/12	Posted - Oct 14 2012 : 4:35AM In the 90's it was Rocco Siffredi. [Link]
I P Freely Member 335 Posts 10/11	Posted - Oct 14 2012 : 5:36PM Ginger Lynn was not the first to do anal on film, but I give her credit for popularizing it. Back in the 70's and early 80's a lot of movies had one token anal scene. This was always performed by the least attractive member of the female cast who was usually an unknown with a short-lived porn career. Ginger was the first gorgeous box-cover mega-star who did anal routinely. After that it was guaranteed to catch on -- if Ginger Lynn did anal, other "stars" could hardly refuse to do it. [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Oct 14 2012 : 5:45PM ^ In the very same period of Ginger Lynn Kari Foxx , Buffy Davis and Connie Petersen did anal regularly , none of them was "the last beauty in town" quite the opposite especially Kari one of my favourite ever and already was Nina Hartley back then [Link]

GroberSpass Member 330 Posts 3/07	Posted - Oct 15 2012 : 5:17PM The first anal queens: Buffy Davis Kelli Richards Ello Rio Thr french anal group: Laura Valerie Aude Joy Karins Honorable all time anal ladies Nina Hartley Monique Anal queens of today Jada Fire Katja Kassin Sandra Romain Mika Tan Sophie Dee Kelly Wells Arianna Jollie [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Oct 15 2012 : 5:21PM You forgot Taylor Rain, Aurora Snow and Gauge [Link]
A2mlover Member In her ass, in her mouth, repeat. 326 Posts 12/22	Posted - Jul 14 2023 : 9:36AM BlackSix wrote: mindee wrote: I don't know if she "popularized" it, but I would say that when Georgina Spelvin did her DP on The Devil In Miss Jones, it was probably the most recognized "first" anal. Click to expand That was probably the first anal ever shot in a feature for sure. Click to expand There's an earlier scene in The Devil in Miss Jones where Harry Reems fucks Georgina Spelvin in the ass. Many films from the Golden Age of Porn had an anal scene; it was almost as obligatory as a lesbian scene. Edited by - A2mlover on 7/14/2023 9:38:43 AM [Link]