When a beautiful girl is fucking or sucking on a guy why would he want her to stop so he can jerk off for the last minute before he comes? This is the foul formula for 90% of the DVDs any more. Do you like this? If I wanted to watch a guy jerking off I could video tape myself.
I don't mind this if the camera has it's focus on the girl, and she gives good eye contact, continually looking up at the guy while waiting for the facial.
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sam46 Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 14 2007 : 8:37PM
Baker's Dozen could use fire hydrants instead of girls and the facial fans would still be in heaven!
Considering how many pop shots the average male performer has to do, it's amazing any of them get more than a dribble. I can deal with whatever they need to do to get a good oral or facial cumshot.
I personally don't care much for external facials anyway. It just seems kind of...anticlimactic (if you'll pardon the pun). I prefer that the cum goes IN the mouth every time. But I DO want to see the cumshot. None of that internal stuff.
It just seems to work better when the guy jerks himself off for the finish. As somebody else mentioned, when the girl does it, the cum tends to end up everywhere BUT where it needs to be (I'm sure not by accident in some cases).
Like why does it matter where the cum ends up? I like the shot to be somewhat real. Sure I like to see it but when the guy has to jerk himself off it's like the babe aint any good at what she is doing. There are plenty of good DVDs where the girl gets the guy off and plenty of cum gets on her face, ass, tits or glasses whatever.
I think its false labling to mark a DVD as "blowjob" when it's really a "jerkoff". They should atleast mark them so you know what your getting.
If I paid a woman to suck my dick and I had to jerk off to cum I'd want my money back.
Unless that guy is Peter North or Jamie Gillis. The two worst aims in porn history. If a girl was a dodger, the safest place for her would be right in front of Jamie as if she wanted a facial. And that's not a joke.
I have heard it said that the best qualification for being a porn stud is that you are a good masturbator.
I think the reason for all the jerk to close is simple: they are cumming on demand. Jerk to finish is the only reliable way to achieve this. If the director had more patience they could fuck to climax or something but that means that the director does not have the same level of control over the action.
Additionally, jerk to climax is the only way to film the various cum fetish movies. If you want swallowing or facials or hate internals or so on, you have to put up with jerk to climax.
Avoiding jerk to finish would mean compromising on the part of both the director (in terms of his control over the pacing of the shoot) and the consumer (in terms of his taste in how and where the cumshot is delivered). I don't think it is suprising given this that jerk to climax has thrived.
If you want to avoid all the jerking, the best thing is to look into more am and pro-am stuff. Ed Powers usually doesn't jerk in his Dirty Debs (but he does wear condoms) and Randy West doesn't usually jerk in his Up'n'Cummers. If you like gonzo though, accustom yourself to the frantic wrists.
"Jerk to Pop" is one of the reasons that I've been watching so much "classic" porn recently. I would much rather see a guy pull out and immediately shoot his load than to watch him jerk off for 30 seconds while the girl kneels there looking like a baby bird waiting to be fed.
LOL. *that's* what it reminds me of. I hate it as well. I think there's more passion if they just go at it hard until he just manages to pull out, or if she jerks him off or sucks him off...
would it be safe to assume, that other than for threesomebody's lone, decenting, clearly understandable "nay", the rest of us are actually in unnanimous agreement for once?
That everyone thus far, on this side of the heterosexual male genderline, is sick and tired of seeing overspent talent, choke the chicken while stunning babes look on, empty handed, dry mouthed, and jaws cramping up?
That nearly all the male audience, is annoyed with having to wait, while some guy stands there, yanking on his pecker, until finally shes rewarded with a couple drops of cum and a wet smudge? A smudge more likely the result of sweat, that dripped off his forehead from all the vigorous meat beating?
This can be remedied, they just need to start a new meat wanking genre for threesomebody and the female audience.
When Heather Brooke sucks dick the cum goes in all the right places and the dick owner doesn't have to jerk off. Maybe certain "porn stars" need to watch her training video. Or try a little method acting .
Yes I agree to a certain extent this has become a tiresome formula to finish off a scene. I would like to see more m/f/f scenes where one girl jerks the guy off over the other one.
Gonzo doesn't have to feature jerk to cum ending every scene. This is where the director and the viewer go their separate ways. Too be in porn a guy has to be a good masturbator, thats f**ked up right there.
I don't actually mind the jerk to pop when the movie is cum swallowing oriented. I don't think there is any possible way to have a ton of guys naturally come to orgasm and then fill the same chick's mouth with 10 loads.
On the other hand, if the movie is not cum-centric, then yes, I would prefer not to see jerk to pop.
i think its boring, thats why i never watch standard amercan gonzo films. specialist hanjob films such as "handjob hunnies" proove that there is a better alternative to men jerking themselves :)
Generally, it doesn't bother me unless it takes a very long time and you get that baby-bird effect, or the scene is supposed to be a gentle romantic couples sort of affair. I think it spoils the mood for that sort of scene. In many of the older movies (pre-1980 for instance) it was common for the guy to just pull out and spurt on belly/tits, pussy, or back/buttocks. I think that's better for the mood.
If there are two or more guys and they're supposed to deliver approximately simultaneously, there's no other way than wanking, of course. You'd need some incredible mind-control (and skill) to get three guys splooging for one girl at the same time without them wanking. If I have time to look at my watch during this, the editing should have been tighter, but it isn't often that bad.
The sort of multi-guy scene I'd like to see more of would not focus on all the guys cumming at the same time so much. You could still have three (or whatever) guys and go through the whole anal/dp/airtight sort of routine, but once that had been achieved you could instruct each guy to cum without wanking. Not necessarily easy, I know, but I've seen this in Private vignettes.
I don't like the abrupt editing that goes on now days. One moment the guy is doing doggie and then suddenly it's reverse cow girl and in a flash the guy is wanking on her face. I want to see the guy pull out and roll the bitch over. Don't you really prefer the continous camara work without any cuts? How about those movies where you see the exact same strech of video like three or four times. They can turn 5 minutes of footage into a 30 minute feature.
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I've only seen that sort of repeated footage thing in cheap movies - Leisuretime compilations and stuff that I wouldn't want to watch again.
You're right, I prefer continuous camera work. But I understand why it just won't always work. I guess it's more likely with one guy, where the camera can stay on him until he cums. But even then, and even with professionals, you're still dealing with the uncertainties of human physiology and psychology.
I've always assumed this is at least part of why they cut away to the guy's grimacing cum-face. He's pulled out, they're ready for the cumshot, but he isn't quite as there as he thought, so you've got fifty seconds of him jerking off. Much better to have something else to cut away to and have only five seconds of jerking off.
I'd prefer they cut to a pan along the babe's naked sweaty writhing orgasm-racked body, but I guess I'm an artist at heart.
I'm sure the directors in this forum appreciate all the post expressing a deep understanding of the how difficult it is to get the male to come on cue, and I guessing that simultaneous cum shot in the mouth is written into the porn codes, not to be violated on pain of death I am not one who understands, its imho we are being short changed. A guy doing a scene that he knows is going to end in him masturbating to finish is not vested in the fucking or sucking, he's holding back. No matter how vigorously he bangs he's holding back, probably doing his taxes or what ever he does to forget that his dick is in a hot chick. Bang, bang, bang like a metronome. how can there be heat between the actors if the sex is going nowhere. No, guys jerking off works for the director, not the viewers, and isn't it more than a little gay. There are movies that feature this very thing.. I thought they for the homosexual market.
Although I like a variety of endings, I agree that jerk-off endings have more appeal to women who watch porn. There are two elements that appeal to us here;
1. The Turn-on of watching a nice cock. Most women get excited looking at a nice cock and the fact that the message we get is that he is getting turn on by US is in turn a source of excitement to a women by itself. 2. The "Tease" element. The other message here control of denial. The guy jacking off is being denied the final fuck or facial that the woman would otherwise allow him. The female watching sees the other female performers in a much more powerful position and the male more subservient. Like I said, I still enjoy facials, creampies and every other type of ending and jerk-offs are not an exclusive source of enjoyment from porn but I'll bet a lot of other women like them from time to time.
The whole idea of a guy needing to jerk off to cum didn't bother me until I realize that in all the times I've had sex, I've only done it twice, and that's because of poor timing issues of pulling out during missionary. Otherwise, I always let the girl finish me off. I either cum inside her or she jerks me off (which I much prefer because she just knows how :-) ). I can't absolutely stand guys jerking themselves off now. This is why I watch Euro porn and 70's/80's more often. It's silly. I find girls finishing a guy off to be much more appealling, and I'll take that over getting a 100% paste face every time. And besides, facials and girls finishing the guy are not mutually exclusive. There are several scenes were a girl jerks a guy, and the spooge shoots all over their face. Any Charlie blowjob is a great example. I'm just happy porn accommodates everybody's tastes. I enjoy the Head Case and Hand To Mouth series (one huge misfire with Hand To Mouth 5 though). And a new crop of girls always show up who just know great handwork.
If you want it to be real then why are you complaining? Most of the time porn actors take a shit load of Viagra or, even worse, inject their dicks with a solution that keeps them hard. Don't let porn fool you, no one's turned on by what they're doing. It's all an act.
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