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Michael28
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5 Posts
2/04
Posted - Feb 4 2004 : 9:05PM
I was supprised how fast RLD was growing lateley.
Mainly i think it has to do with the licensing of their products at adultlegal. Now I've heard that RLD has stopped their licensing. Was this a smart move or is this really something that was wrong to do? I bet RLD would NEVER has been so big as they are now without all those adultsites online. Anyway, It was fun to download from adultsites their product to see if it was worth to order their DVD, however since they've stopped licensing I'm affraid that their sales will slowly die. So this could be a good chance for other company's to take over the net/business? Like Zero Tolerance for example. Once i saw if a movie was good enough I've always bought the DVD from adultdvdempire. Anyway now no more new RLD so no more RLD DVD's to buy ofcourse. What do you guys think of all this?
I hope Zero Tolerance will come out in the next couple year as the best on the net, from there their sales will rise up that's for sure..
MisterNoGood
Member

195 Posts
2/04
Posted - Feb 4 2004 : 9:58PM
Greetings, To be honest with you, if the box is stamped Red Light District, I will buy it. To me, it has passed the highest quality standards, and I know that I will get an excellent product. From the picture quality, to the extras, to the girls and directors..it is all top notch. As for Zero Tolerance...it is my belief they will never be a leader in the industry, especially if Mike Quasar continues to use that videocam that gives the video a "film" look to it (it has been talked about before on this board). When Zero Tolerance started, they put at the begining of each video alot of promises...and in just a year, they broke almost every one of them....we have seen alot of women with tatoos...a couple of women with bad boob jobs...poor quality video (that "film" look) and even a "fantasy" movie.Pehaps Zero Tolerance should change their name to Zero Credability.
skronker
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Scopophiliac
9780 Posts
9/02
Posted - Feb 4 2004 : 10:12PM
I'm not sure what adultsites have to do with DVD sales. They certainly have almost no influence over my purchases. As far as RLD goes, I look at their own site for info and boxcovers but I make my decisions based on who directs and who is cast. Suggesting that RLD is going to :"slowly die" because they aren't licensing web content for people to download is preposterous. The only way they would "slowly die" is if they started cranking out shitty product, which doesn't seem likely anytime soon since they have some of the best directors in the industry.
Michael28
New Member

5 Posts
2/04
Posted - Feb 4 2004 : 10:14PM
Well I didn't started this topic about the flaws of Zero Tolerance. I was more talking about the business plans and the best strategy for company's for in the future to take the business over from RLD. As for Zero Tolerance they could have some flaws, however If We start about flaws, why don't you mention that most of the RLD movies are cheap Eastern European girls? I bet I could make a few movies in no time like RLD in Eastern Europe, especially Hungary since that's my Native Language. You probably have no clue how cheap it is to get some girls working there. For example, an average income in one month in Hungary is between 60 and 80 thousand Forint ( +- 300 to 350 USD. ) Go there make some contacts and you'll get those girls in front of the camera for about 600 USD, maybe 700, damn maybe even for less then that? They are really Cheap, they are all looking the same and so on.Just go to Budapest, take a cab, ask where you can find some whores and talk to their pimp.I'd rather see some real class girls from Western Europe or the US. However this is still not the issue I'm talking about. I'm talking about the Strategy and what could be the best option for new porn company's or the ones that where they could show us some competition and how?

Michael.

Mike Quasar
Zero Tolerance

Reluctant pornographer
1765 Posts
7/01
Posted - Feb 4 2004 : 10:20PM
First of all, perhaps it was a bit of a lofty goal to express Zero Tolerance for things like tattoos and boob jobs. Unfortunately we soon discovered that just about every single girl in the business has some sort of tribal sign/gang initiation ink on their body somewhere. So what do you do? Shoot two movies a year? No, you try to make the best with what you've got. With few exceptions we've managed to achieve a fairly consistent high quality of talent. As far as Boob Jobs; Yes, we have a series called Double Decker Sandwich which features 12 girls in each volume. It's very difficult to find girls with tremendously large breasts who are not surgically enhanced. All I can tell you is that we try as often as is humanly possible to avoid them.

Our recent trip to Prague was an attempt to shoot girls closer in caliber to our original mission statement and most of them were absolute tens but guess what? some of them had tattoos as well.Upcoming trips will take us back to Prague and to Brazil in search of naturally attractive girls who are free of most of the defects that many of the San Fernando Valley crop seem to possess so often.

As far as "the poor picture quality" of my "film-look video"; if you don't like it, buy something else. We release 4 titles a month. Only two feature "film look". You have options. If you want movies that are exactly like Red Light District, I suggest you buy more Red Light district movies. I personally like the "poor picture quality" of my "film-look video". I'm sorry that you don't. Have a nice day.

Quaze

P.S. When you go to the movie theatre do you get pissed off at the "film look" up on the screen? Would Master and Commander have looked better if it had been shot on a Sony camcorder with all controls set to "Automatic"? Just curious.

Edited by - Mike Quasar on 2/4/2004 10:25:06 PM

 
Michael28
New Member

5 Posts
2/04
Posted - Feb 4 2004 : 10:31PM
Ohw shit before I forget, Zero Tolerance made a movie called Grand Theft Anal. You should watch that movie cause THAT one rules defenatly, fuck i loved that talk in the beginning with Hannah Harper!. I've never paid attention to Zero Tolerance before but a few months I've subscribed to an adult site where they had stuff from RLD, Legend, Zero Tolerance and some others, there I've downloaded Grand Theft Anal and bought the DVD. And since then I keep my eyes on releases from Zero Tolerance. I have absolutley no problem with their quality. And honestly I could have mentioned Devils Film, or Anabolic, but I mentioned Zero Tolerance cause I saw that nice GTA DVD on my desk so that's the reason I took ZT as example.We shouldn't forget that Internet gives peoples anonymity, and we can buy those DVD's online without the know of our wifes :-).


Michael.

Edited by - Michael28 on 2/4/2004 10:44:27 PM

TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03
Posted - Feb 4 2004 : 10:45PM
I don't want to see Master and Commander shot on a handicam, or any other videocamera; whether it's set to 30i, 30p, or 24p with onboard 3:2 pulldown. Hardcore eastern European gonzo shot on video at 30p might be a nice change of pace. With 10,000 titles a year heaven forbid everything get shot at 30i!

-T.C.

skronker
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9780 Posts
9/02
Posted - Feb 4 2004 : 10:50PM
I like the "filmic" look.
Personally speaking. A lot of digital video porn looks sharp and glaring.
Gimme some mood, people!
The only thing that will kill RLD, unless the amazing run of young female nymphos suddenly goes dry, is the resolute sameness of their movies: They need to mix it up a lot more. Seems like Jake and Mike have the right ideas, for sure,

Quaze: I promise to check out some ZT titles soon.

Mike Quasar
Zero Tolerance

Reluctant pornographer
1765 Posts
7/01
Posted - Feb 4 2004 : 10:53PM
Tony my good man, feel free to peruse any of the following ; Ass Cleavge 3, Grand Theft Anal 3, No Holes Barred 2 or Teen X Two. All are hardcore eastern european gonzo shot at 30p :)

Now that I've shamed myself with such obvious plugging, I'll get back to my editing of another "film look" movie.

Quaze

DreamWeaver
Member

288 Posts
10/02
Posted - Feb 4 2004 : 11:06PM
It's very apparent Zero Tolerance has always tried to bring fresh new talent to the screen. When it comes to delivering the goods, ZT is second to no one (right up there with DVSX). I can't tell you how many titles of both studies I've watched and thought to myself ~ wow, is this girl ever hot, how come I've never seen her before? ~ There's nothing worse then seeing the same performers, like Sandra Romain, Angel Long, etc, being recycled over and over again. ...Or perhaps I just watch too much porn?

Edited by - DreamWeaver on 2/4/2004 11:09:59 PM

Mike Quasar
Zero Tolerance

Reluctant pornographer
1765 Posts
7/01
Posted - Feb 4 2004 : 11:39PM
Hurry up! What do I have to do, buy them for you?!! Oh wait... you'd probably take me up on that offer. On second thought please view our many titles at your leisure :)

Quaze

TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03
Posted - Feb 5 2004 : 12:20AM
double post

Edited by - TonyC on 2/5/2004 12:39:07 AM

TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03
Posted - Feb 5 2004 : 12:22AM
Actually borrowed a page from your book and shot 30p last Saturday. Didn't look half bad.

-T.C.

Edited by - TonyC on 2/5/2004 12:37:16 AM

cochise
Member

You gonna pull them pistols or whistle dixie?
238 Posts
12/03
Posted - Feb 5 2004 : 12:32AM
Quaze or anyone else....is there someplace the back covers of ZT releases can be viewed? You have some extremely enticing titles slated for release soon and I'd like to see a little more of what to expect. Thanks in advance.
Mike Quasar
Zero Tolerance

Reluctant pornographer
1765 Posts
7/01
Posted - Feb 5 2004 : 1:09AM
Many of the adult retail sites have the back of the box. AdultDVD.com is one just off the top of my head.

Quaze

 
Michael28
New Member

5 Posts
2/04
Posted - Feb 5 2004 : 1:14AM
check www.jadedvideo.com
they have pretty big covers you can take a look at.I prefer jadedvideo to get a look for covers but order them from adultdvdempire since they deliver faster.


Michael

Too$hort
Member

Oaktown
107 Posts
1/04
Posted - Feb 5 2004 : 1:17AM
www.adultdvdempire.com has alot of images -- you have to register though.
Walter Burns
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7564 Posts
11/02
Posted - Feb 5 2004 : 5:14AM
Something went wrong here, no?
Looking how this thread has developed, I would change the header into: "Who will take over this thread?"

There is a poll about the most derailed thread. Could this be a contender? We have gone from the influence of adultsites on RLD sales figures, to bashing of Zero Tolerance, to how cheap and bad performers 'Eurowhores' are, to a discussion of aestetic qualities of 30p digital video, to which adult retail ite has the best box cover scans?
I am starting to wonder what is waiting around the corner. A Walter Burns bashing?




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"I'm gonna need a bigger house for my porn collection."
(And your quote collection.)

TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03
Posted - Feb 5 2004 : 7:43AM
Walter, shut the fuck up.

-T.C.

Walter Burns
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IAFD, supporters of beastiality. Just say no.
7564 Posts
11/02
Posted - Feb 5 2004 : 7:58AM
I was right!! As usual.

btw, I just scored another TonyC quote.




skronker said:
"All the girls I know prefer the intensity of 'Fashionistas'-style sexing -- I mean, to watch in a video! My name is not Rocco!"

Mike Quasar
Zero Tolerance

Reluctant pornographer
1765 Posts
7/01
Posted - Feb 5 2004 : 10:02AM
You're right Walter. To put this thread back on track and to answer the question as to who will take over the business; judging by recent aquisistions I'd have to say that Hustler will one day own pornography.

Quaze

skronker
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9780 Posts
9/02
Posted - Feb 5 2004 : 11:15AM
They don't already?
jewel denyle
Platinum X Pictures

769 Posts
4/03
Posted - Feb 5 2004 : 4:26PM
Well personaly I hope PXP in a year from now is on top of the porn world. We have ironed out our flaws and try to give the viewers a wide range of product and directors to choose from not just the same thing over and over. I think with a team made up of myself,Brandon Iron,Mason,Steve Holmes,Julian,Sean Michaels and Michael Stefano we will have the most exciting porn on the market. You can see and feel the diffrence between each of us as directors which makes it all unique but we keep our sex top notch and hardcore they way it should be. And I don't think a company made up of this calibur of talent is going to happen for a long time down the road. Not to sound cocky but we really have a great team that others cannot compete with and our numbers I know for a fact we are putting out what others could only wish for a new company.
Walter Burns
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IAFD, supporters of beastiality. Just say no.
7564 Posts
11/02
Posted - Feb 6 2004 : 3:04AM
Seriously? Nobody will. Can anybody tell me who 'has the business' now? Both the market and the industry are too fragmentated to claim any such thing. And I, for one, am glad for that.




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Ramsey
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Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Feb 6 2004 : 3:16AM
John Stagliano already owns the industry....I mean how can you beat the master at his own game?
 
Walter Burns
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IAFD, supporters of beastiality. Just say no.
7564 Posts
11/02
Posted - Feb 6 2004 : 3:20AM
John Stagliano owns his own business, not the industry. And, "how can you beat the master at his own game?" By playing another game.




Sir Noel Plum said:
"I thought about really giving my thoughts in a, for once, serious contribution on this thread."
(What?! No, no. You almost fooled me, SNP.)
Ramsey
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Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Feb 6 2004 : 3:24AM
John Stagliano is the God every other company owner tries to be!
sunchen
Xin Vision

The Spiteful, Delightful Eyeful
433 Posts
10/03
Posted - Feb 6 2004 : 1:24PM
Now that made my day.

DVSX. com - Free pics, free clips, NO pop ups, simply the BEST adult studio website.

BIGmike
B-I-G-m-i-k-e

2335 Posts
3/01
Posted - Feb 6 2004 : 9:07PM
Who will take over the business?

No one... There are too many rivals/competitors that seem to pop up every now and then, (with a lot more now) and that leaves the big fish always worrying about what the little fish are up to, than to worry about the bigger fish are doing, which is who the big fish should have their sights set upon.

- - - B-I-G-m-i-k-e, over & out! - - -

BIGmike
B-I-G-m-i-k-e

2335 Posts
3/01
Posted - Feb 6 2004 : 9:07PM
(my apologies for that above statement, I went to a fishing supply store today )

- - - B-I-G-m-i-k-e, over & out! - - -

DTfan
Member

utah
102 Posts
1/04
Posted - Feb 6 2004 : 9:43PM
I've mentioned this before - but ZT has the best blowjob series ever in "Blow Me Sandwich" - I'm looking forward to volume 4.
p.s. Is the "Too Short" that posts on here the REAL Too Short? Just curious.
HeyNow All-Star Supporter
Oblivious

Gold Star Hey!
5965 Posts
1/03
Posted - Feb 7 2004 : 12:14PM
I think Digital Sin/New Sensations is putting out some great product right now. It used to be that I only thought of them as the ones that put out the Peter North titles (North Pole, Anal Addicts and Deep Throat This) which were really good (in my book.) But they have brought things up a notch with some of their new titles.
Lee O
Forearm Trainer

mmmmmmm........ after-birth
1193 Posts
8/03
Posted - Feb 7 2004 : 12:43PM
But they you wouldn't be beating him at his own game ! It'd be some other game like baseball , basketball , or sportfucking .

Walter , could it be that your aura of invincibility is slipping ? Noooooooooooo !

BTW EA seems to be top dog in the gonzo race , with RLD , ZT , and PX sniffing at it's bum crack . DVSX is licking it's thigh and Digital sin sniffing it's farts . Though they're all closing in ...

Walter Burns
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IAFD, supporters of beastiality. Just say no.
7564 Posts
11/02
Posted - Feb 7 2004 : 1:17PM
Let me answer with a future quote by a very esteemed ADT poster:
Lee O said:
"Gonzo isn't the only game in town."




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jewel denyle
Platinum X Pictures

769 Posts
4/03
Posted - Feb 7 2004 : 3:26PM
I'm just happy to be in the game and holding my own.
 
Walter Burns
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IAFD, supporters of beastiality. Just say no.
7564 Posts
11/02
Posted - Feb 8 2004 : 11:21AM
Me thinks you hold more than just your own.
Likewise, whenever I am watching the game being played, I am 'holding my own' as well.



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