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Xioniet
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Posted - May 13 2010 : 3:50PM
I really like my porn but I must say I get pretty fed up of seeing the same sort of porn stars time and time again. As if they've been cloned.
I won't mention names, probably because I don't know their names. They are very forgettable. I really find blonde '18 year old' slender girls very tedious to watch. Yeah, I accept that many guys like this type of porn, but I find it boring.
I hate the blondes coming on, dressed in mini dresses, feathers, etc, white panties and six inch heels. They all look the same and 'act' the same. And they're invariably say 'oh yeah' almost on cue. Zzzzz...
I am speaking from a personal perspective but I really like porn to surprise me. I love seeing big tits, big asses, yeah maybe a girl or two covered in tattoos or piercings. Even shaved heads can be a turn on. But the same type of girl time and time again, sorry but that is mega-boring to me.
Can anybody point me in the direction of a studio that makes a different porn? Where their talent aren't clones. Where I don't have to turn my volume down to block out the scripted 'oh yeahs'.
Jonny Jay All-Star Supporter
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Posted - May 13 2010 : 4:19PM
Totally know where your coming from, however I still maintain the very best will rise to the top and these 'blondes' that you talk of will have a very short career in porn, I suggest you look for the pornstars who have been in the biz for 3 years solid a given for an almost solid performer.
Bluto
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Posted - May 13 2010 : 4:40PM
Rodney Moore still does original stuff. The girls even talk normal most of the time.
No choking or head stomp either.
ADT44
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Posted - May 13 2010 : 5:51PM
...or do what I tend to do; keep it old school (read: stick with pre-2000 titles and dito STARS).
Im not a big fan of white american porn STARS, but this is the latetest starlet, in my book!
Her name is haley cummings:
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Colombian-Canuck
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Posted - May 13 2010 : 6:35PM
Another reason why porn is in serious decline, the industry has serious problems to deal with.
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The Ghost of Cal Jammer
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Posted - May 13 2010 : 7:59PM
That's why I like
Ashley Blue
Deena Daniels
Tanner Mayes
Lindsay Kay
Lorena Sanchez
Nyomi Zen
and on
and on
and on
there are so many hot women in porn that if you don't like one thing you will surely find what you do like or you're not looking hard enough
prfb
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Posted - May 14 2010 : 12:33AM
Not that you need my second on this topic, but you've got it anyway. Cookie-cutter bimbettes are part of the problem; or even more, industry producers and directors are, who think that "fresh meat" is the answer to everything.
It isn't. Attitude is everything and women can have the widest possible differences in appearance and still be hot. Or they can look like a million dollars and be boring as hell. Wicked and Vivid used to be known for this latter kind of golden statue, but even they are seeing the light at last in the new century, I think.
Per comment above, Rodnievision is good for "real" sexy, and I've been caught by all those April Flores features lately. Burning Angel can be fine if you don't mind some punky chic. And I'd like Belladonna and her friends even more if she didn't keep hitting that gonzo schtick about the same way each and every time. Hey Ms. B: how about a feature???
There are probably lots of others out there that I'm just not thinking of right now. But I hear the original poster loud and clear: too much "product" and too little heat.
ClayraBeau
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Posted - May 14 2010 : 1:14AM
It's weird, whenever I've been on porn sets, I always hear about how happy people are that I'm not another 19 year old with small or fake tits, tattoos, etc... But then you look around, and those are the girls who are getting a lot of the work. I don't know how to explain it...
hst666 All-Star Supporter
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Posted - May 14 2010 : 5:40AM
Actually, having lived therough the 90's era of fake tits and carbon copy blondes, I thought there was a lot more variety in today's porn. I will admit that the actresses definitely skew younger than ever before. However, as far as look goes, I find a variety.
Jonny Jay All-Star Supporter
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Posted - May 14 2010 : 6:11AM
RandomPrecision
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Posted - May 14 2010 : 8:07AM
A big +1 for Rodney's stuff. There are a few things here and there that makes Rodney's stuff kind of annoying but the payoff is the fantastic women he shoots.
RandomPrecision
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Posted - May 14 2010 : 8:15AM
quote]Who's fed up of cloned porn stars?[/quote]
Yeah. Good luck. I've been complaining about this for years.
The best place to look is for girls who just got into the business. But you'd better be quick because even the best (Most natural) looking girls start to morph into "The porn star" pretty fast. Or at least, it's rare when they don't. It's gotten almost to the point to where I can't watch. It's just too sad to see a girl go from INCREDIBLE (Nice, natural looking hair and features, not much makeup, normal looking clothes) to "porn chick" (Neon fishnets, various types of implants/strange changes in body shape, over the butt tattoo, lots of "porny" makeup, changes in hair style and color) in a few months.
Loraine
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Posted - May 14 2010 : 8:16AM
Rodney appears to actually like women - that helps.
Cerebral Jedi
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Posted - May 15 2010 : 2:45AM
Attack of The Clones?
axlsfury
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Posted - May 15 2010 : 7:12AM
+2
Lots of very different and beautiful women and hot action!
 
NewRomancer
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Posted - May 15 2010 : 12:49PM
Being overly samey is to me one of the biggest failings of commercial porn. Just one more way the "industry" could stand to learn a thing or three from real, amateurs
Tiffany Tyler
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Posted - May 15 2010 : 5:44PM
Have you checked out Sweet Sinner? I think you would really like their titles. :)
Gore Gore Girl All-Star Supporter
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Posted - May 15 2010 : 6:06PM
^ Agreed Tiffany!
Colombian-Canuck
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Posted - May 15 2010 : 7:42PM
I am interested to hear Tiffany Tyler's perception of the state of Porn today. If she is happy with the status quo or if she would like to see changes (what kind specifically).
Hope she answers..
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mrputitbackin
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Posted - Jun 22 2010 : 8:27PM
Go Euro if you want totally different looking chicks from your standard American blonde with fake tits like Gina Lynn. Cruel MEdia got the hottest natural looking White chicks, and also so does Rocco. If you are really advnturous and want something real different go Black. Justin Slayer, and Alexander Devoe got probably the best Black porn outright now.
THICK_LOVA54
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Posted - Jun 22 2010 : 8:35PM
There are plenty of good pornstars that arnt blond just look past them if its not your thing
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gladtobeblazed
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Posted - Jun 23 2010 : 1:41AM
This is why I love Burning Angel releases. Even though a lot of the girls sport the same punk look with the tattoos, I still think they are more unique than the cookie cutter pornstars.
Algaliarept
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Posted - Jun 23 2010 : 1:47AM
Personally, I want two clones of Jenna Haze at my house, STAT!
Aplus
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Posted - Jun 23 2010 : 2:18AM
I think a lot of it comes down to certain themes being shot, so the same kind of girls tend to get hired. I see what I believe to be diverse stuff quite often. I just think people have to dig deeper to find it, and look in different places for it. I do think it tends to be a problem more with certain genres.
ekarth
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Posted - Jun 23 2010 : 3:44AM
you're right. almost 70% of the girls in porn look same to me, skinny white barbie doll looking girl who play both as 'barely legal highschool girl' in this movie and 'MILF' in next movie.
 
prfb
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Posted - Jun 25 2010 : 11:46PM
Besides Rodnievision and Burning Angel, I've been watching some good Heartcore productions lately, for "non-porn-starlet" types. These skew a little bit to dyke archetypes, I guess, but they're not all like that. There's a good variety.
Actually, since these appear to be San Francisco films, it hearkens back to decades ago when there was such a split between glossy Los Angeles product and the hippie grit of SF and NYC.
Gimme that grit, any day!
RandomPrecision
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Posted - Jun 26 2010 : 2:04AM
Well, I'd explain it by saying simply that the market is probably (Currently) driven by those who like implants and tattoos because the guys who like natural tits are so disgusted with the business that they've stopped buying from those studios that frequently feature girls with implants and tattoos. This would have the effect of making it appear that the majority of customers demand implants.
I think if the business ever makes a shift back to more natural women, it's going to take a while before the natural lovers come back around. Those customers who do like implants and tattoos will, of course, be enraged and will probably complain loudly but that happens anytime something that has been available forever starts to fade away.
What it is going to take is a conscious decision by those who make the decisions to switch to natural women even if a lot of their loyal established customers don't like it. They're probably going to lose money at first (Maybe even a lot). They're going to have to want to do it to improve the average quality of the product throughout the business and "break the addiction to implants" to put it into familiar political terms. These things are not really natural to business people who are thinking in the short term and mostly concerned with profits. It's going to take people who make porn as much for their own pleasure as for their profit.
Unfortunately, the majority of porn consumers are not going to demand better porn. They're either going to keep buying what's available or they're just going to figure they've spent enough on porn and fade away. Those who are unhappy with the vast majority of porn will piss in the wind for a while and then they'll just give up.
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Posted - Jun 26 2010 : 2:13AM
The biggest failing with Euro porn is the guys. There are some pretty decent European male performers but for the most part they have the same problem with male talent as American porners do. They use the same guys over and over. Some of them are better than others (Some much better) but frankly, on average, they are not much to look at and are very poor performers.
I do agree about the women. Hell a lot of them even manage to at least appear to be turned on. It's clear to see that some of these European women have an entirely different way of thinking about sex that American women do just in the fact that they often seem to be just as turned on as the guys. I don't know what explains that (Never been to Europe) but it's rare in American porn, whatever the cause. I also like that you're more likely to find a Euro porn girl who doesn't insist on screaming all the way through her scenes. I like for women to be more quiet during sex and to only vocalize to the extent to which she normally would. Over-emoting is the worst problem in the general porn business. I find that even when the Euro girls over-emote, they tend to be somewhat more subdued about it than their American counterparts and even though it's obviously fake, it has kind of a sexy, mysterious quality about it.
Edited by - randomprecision on 6/26/2010 2:20:21 AM
2ferme
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Posted - Jun 26 2010 : 2:47PM
Even though porn is cranked out here in the States, and can be clearly rough (To rough for my tastes in many instances) I think there is still much less in the way of the sex hang ups in Europe, then in America. And yes, I think that can translate even into Adult Viewing Material.
When I was growing up my Father, (Who outside of a few mags I doubt ever watched any Porn outside of a Russ Meyer flick)always said this Country has a Tit Fetish. It has a hard time dealing sexuality, and nudity. Much more religion here in the States I think is one of the big factors.
I prefer many Euro Titles over US Titles because of how they are shot. And I do like much of the rougher Euro films. I am a big fan of DP's, but not going ape shit. I do not care for Rocco with a few exceptions. Double fuck her in some really good positions , cum on her face, and a nice cleanup, and fade away while she is still cleaning up (Sucking Dick).
This shit where your cuming on her face and she has her mouth closed like she's scared is bullshit. Also just playing with it after a cum bath like in those Red Light District Videos is BS also. I don't need you to play with it, and go ah, and show me that it's in your mouth, I know that. Suck it!
And I don't need girls with nice tits to make them bigger. What for?
I can't stand tattoos, and still don't get the fascination with them. They are not attractive, if she is attractive they detract from her overall appearance. This is generational, and although many people of all ages are getting Tattoos, (Because many others are doing it?) I think it's the mainly younger, under 25 crowd that are into this. Hint, like it, or not, it cheapens your appearance.
And enough with the never ending closeups. I like a close up, but not one that last ten minutes. I want to see her, and her body. Her whole body.
Sorry, End Of Rant!
shalalin
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Posted - Jun 26 2010 : 3:36PM
Translation: You believe that people who dislike 'enhanced' women are somehow "better" customers and, dare I say it, "better" people and more worthy of being catered to, don't you.
The middle paragraph I quoted scores extremely high on the "unintentional self-parody" scale. No matter how the business develops, I doubt the people who enjoy fake tits or tattoos will ever be complaining as loudly as the "everything must be natural!" crowd constantly does these days.
Oh, and the market isn't driven "by those who like implants and tattoos" no matter how many times you keep trying to convince yourself of that. It's driven by the vast majority of people who are pretty much indifferent to both and collectively happen to like or dislike porn actresses based on a vast variety of different factors, not just the one or two binary yes/no switches that you insist are the only ones that matter. Everybody who defines their likes and dislikes in narrow terms is going to be part of a minority - why is it that you and your brethren are so completely incapable of accepting that? Every other group of fetishists (bar parts of the IR crowd I guess) seem to understand that they can't expect 50+% of all porn in existence to be geared towards their personal preference.
rc7394
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Posted - Jun 26 2010 : 8:07PM
It's sure better than cloning sheep. If the wide variety of female performers over the last 10 years hasn't surprised you then nothing will. That being said, it's too bad that porn isn't being produced at the rate that it was in 2003-2005 or so.
RandomPrecision
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Posted - Jun 27 2010 : 9:43PM
Well, your post is a fair enough response to mine.
However, the point that I was trying to make is that most people who just can't deal with all the implants and tattoos have probably long since given up on the American porn biz. And therefore, the money that might be made from those customers if they were actually buying porn can't even be counted. The business probably can't even estimate how much it loses because of the prevalence of implants and the fact that many customers probably just don't even bother trying to sort it all out and find something they like. If I wasn't so damn stubborn, I'd have given up on porn 20 years ago (And I'm FAR more stubborn than most people I know, have known or have ever met).
So what I was saying was that the market is being driven by people who either like implants or tolerate them. I didn't figure I had to elaborate to that extent when I made my post. Obviously some people just tolerate such things the way some of us deal with other minor annoyances. The point is that it's more than a minor annoyance for some people. That's just who I am. The furniture in my house has to sit exactly the right way or I'll spend an hour readjusting it until it's "right". I don't try to be that way. It just bugs me until I fix it. It's the same way with my porn. If something about the way it's made or the people in it bugs me, it's useless. I can't force my equipment to work when I'm completely turned off.
Let me put it to you this way. If I walked into a porn shop and picked up 5 random DVDs, I would probably be stuck with AT LEAST five scenes that are utterly useless to me because of implants (Probably closer to ten because it seems most movies average two implant scenes). If I actually spent time looking at the covers, I could probably get that down to 2 implant scenes per five DVDs but it would take me a long time to find five movies I actually wanted to see with all (or mostly) natural women in them. To me, that's just an unacceptable state of the industry and I think people are right to protest it.
And to be perfectly honest, I find it just bizarre that we have to argue over something like this. 20 years ago, I would have thought the trend towards implants would end when enough customers complained (because I couldn't imagine anyone actually liking them). Maybe I was naive and small minded (at least on this subject) and maybe I still am. But frankly, I really don't think the world would be worse for it if this one trend faded mercifully into oblivion.
Edited by - randomprecision on 6/27/2010 10:04:25 PM
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About 80% look the same.
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I have no problem with this, provided they clone the right ones.
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