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flexxxible
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Current favs: Skylar Vox, Laney Grey, Aubree Valentine, Angel Youngs, Alyx Star, Blake Blossom
2185 Posts
5/10
Posted - Nov 5 2018 : 6:02AM
For me, a POV scene is an instant turn off, even if they feature my favorite pornstars.
At least keep it for VR, I don't use it anyway. But when it comes to regular scenes, why do they feel the need to make it that way more and more often lately?
I mean, watching porn videos is inherently a convention, I KNOW I'm not the one fucking the girl, don't sell that fantasy to me, because I'm at peace with that. I just want to see a naked body as a whole, a beautiful girl getting fucked by others on all possible angles, as a cinematic experience.
Of course, I know there are different tastes, and people who actually prefer POV, but are they really a majority? Did anyone make a survey or something? Did anyone measure the public's preference and found out that POV is wanted more? Do the statistics say that POV videos are watched more? If that's the case, I would be very disappointed.

I used to like Naughty America scenes, because they filmed them exactly how I wanted. great backgrounds, angles and lighting, all. But lately they use POV more and more. Plus all the other companies, too.
The problem with POV is that it distorts the image. It's nothing like having the girl in front of me. It's distracting and annoying.
T0MBOne
Senior Member

1200 Posts
5/08
Posted - Nov 5 2018 : 9:08AM
And POV is cheap; one less person to hire.
I reviewed a few of the POV gonzo discs and I was okay with the scenes that were "street" scenes, where they are out in public trying to catch something. Once indoors, in a hotel room, the scenes can become monotonous, distorted, many of the things you mentioned.
Titles usually scream that they are POV so you can easily steer clear of them.
Or maybe not?
tb
Edited by - T0MBOne on 11/5/2018 9:10:10 AM
Zingerbrook
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580 Posts
3/17
Posted - Nov 5 2018 : 10:00AM
Aside... Defining porn as "Fantasy. The end." is a pet peeve of mine. I realize the OP didn't say that, and I think fantasy can be an aspect of porn, but fantasy is not "all what porn is." Not quoting anyone in particular there, just quoting what I sometimes see as general sentiment. Also, "Porn is fantasy" partially comes from pro-porn legal arguments. Which we need. But it's becoming a more all-encompassing working definition, which is a bad thing. Done with rant.
OP, I get where you're coming from in disliking POV. Most POV IS crap (and that includes most VR, which is almost entirely crap). But not *all* POV is crap. It depends on the frame. There are good POV blow job scenes for example where the focus is the woman's face. Or think of lesbian fisting scenes, say, which can be POV (or essentially POV) and can be well executed.
I agree POV is cheap, which is one reason. Another reason is just a poor understanding of audience. Companies do make surveys and oftentimes they are designed like crap and come to the wrong conclusions.
Edited my rant for clarity
Edited by - zingerbrook on 11/5/2018 10:04:40 AM
rearadmiral All-Star Supporter
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6519 Posts
12/11
Posted - Nov 5 2018 : 4:30PM
Count me in as someone who isn't a fan of POV though Zingerbrook does make valid points. I'm okay with a bit of it, but my preference is for non-POV.
audiolover42
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61 Posts
1/14
Posted - Nov 5 2018 : 7:34PM
I love POV. Makes me feel like I'm part of the action.
 
spitty
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730 Posts
12/04
Posted - Nov 5 2018 : 7:37PM
I don't care for POV either.......a little bit is ok but it's way too dominant in this industry. Thanks for starting this thread, Flexxxible. I knew that I couldn't be the only one who disliked it.
I especially enjoy either lesbian scenes or "2 girls blowing a guy". I find it annoying when they concentrate on the cameraman instead of each other. Nothing against those who like that....but does it really have to be in almost every bloody video ? Just like the incest theme, it's overkill !!
flexxxible
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Current favs: Skylar Vox, Laney Grey, Aubree Valentine, Angel Youngs, Alyx Star, Blake Blossom
2185 Posts
5/10
Posted - Nov 6 2018 : 2:08AM
I also don't mind a little bit of POV included in the scene, but that should be under 10%. I was referring to full on POV scenes. They should be a niche, just like, for example, the foot fetish action. Don't push it as a main technique.
I can't be fooled that the girl is looking "at me", in my mind all I can think of is that she is looking in a lens of a camera that the guy holds and concentrates on getting a good picture, instead of giving her genuine pleasure.
ownerfckdoll
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29 Posts
10/18
Posted - Nov 6 2018 : 9:08AM
I assume these 100% POV scenes are because you know how (on these very forums) you see a lot of guys complaining "Don't show the guy at all... I don't want to see his ass, his face, his anything. I don't want to see him, I don't want to hear him, nothing". And POV pretty much turns the guy into a cock with 2 legs. It's a method to show the guy as little as possible.
I don't get that mindset, but that's what I figured the 100% POV vids are a response to.
pat362
Senior Member

10083 Posts
3/10
Posted - Nov 6 2018 : 9:32AM
Quick, concise and to the point. The only thing I will add is that while I think cost is the biggest contributor. There may be another reason why some producers shoot POV content. It may be that Some women are more comfortable doing those type of scenes because it's only them and the producer/director/performer in the room as opposed to working on a porn set with at least one extra person handling the camera.
T0MBOne
Senior Member

1200 Posts
5/08
Posted - Nov 6 2018 : 11:09AM
^---Pat is right. Let's say, a starlet only wants Manuel Ferrara on set so he agrees to shoot a POV scene with her. Cheap and easy and the young woman or MILF is happy.
I reviewed a Manuel 2-disc POV set from 2011 called MANUEL'S FUCKING FRENCH VACATION. The opening scene works best---Manuel arrives at Lou Charmelle's apartment, captures wonderful shots of Lou sleeping then action shifts to a wonderful morning blowjob in POV. The duo hit the streets for breakfast then return for a solid POV encounter with Manuel mixing wider POV shots and tighter POV shots. A terrific 55 minute scene. He gets sloppier in the next scene with Liza Del Sierra that's way too long at 85 minutes. Give Manuel credit for trying to mix the wider shots that help keep these scenes from being so claustrophobic. However, that wider shot must also be an interesting shot and sometimes he misses there.
Anyway, that first disc of the two disc set shows what's good and what's bad about POV and I can honestly say that I reviewed few POV discs after that---tb
jakbesthat91
Member

11 Posts
10/18
Posted - Nov 6 2018 : 11:47AM
Agree with OP.
I wanna see the girls body dammit! , long legs, toned body and a beautiful face, can't see that in POV.
Anyway. some people love it, it's cheap to produce and I just avoid it whenever I can.
AngryPirate
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3210 Posts
8/17
Posted - Nov 12 2018 : 4:10PM
Do you have the actual stats for the percentage of POV scenes relative to the total of scenes/titles released in the past 12 months for the sake of argument to back your implied claim of more than 10% or are you only referring to the studios you pay attention to, which would make your argument look less compelling?



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