Welcome back, Simp!

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Thus porn has developped its own ghetto-language, where whore does not equal the mainstream notion og whore, and slut not the mainstream notion of slut. And the word gagging is more common than the word kissing - even though both acts are quite rare. Its just everything upside-down.

Edited by - Mienhagen on 6/4/2005 3:16:00 AM

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Simply because they cater to the segment of the audience which has never developed a normal attitude to women.

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According to Adult DVD Empire, on their list of the top 100 best sellers, you have to get to 29 before a derogatory title appears.

I blame neuropsychology. The diencephalic parts of our brain (limbic, in particular) that gives us our sexual impulses is more likely to respond to things more graphic an crude. In short: Stimuli that is simple and unambiguous.

Consequentially "Cum dumpsters" and "Girls who suck cock and take it in the ass" probably has more appeal to sexual impulse than "Satyr" (#35).

However, the best seller list defies this. (#1:Flashpoint)

That's just my theory anyway.

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Jenna in any state of undress is always a joy to behold!

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I imagine if you live in the Bible Belt, a title with a more "honest" name like "I like it Black and Deep in my Ass" would likely get you prosecuted if you sold it. Perhaps even if you bought it. (I'm no expert in these matters.)

Hence, they may not carry a title that could be a massive seller. Innocuous-titled vids may get a boost from this.

I wish we could find a "Billboard's Top 100" list for porn titles, and settle this once and for all. Can you recommend one?

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But from a marketing standpoint, a consumer who is looking for a hardcore movie with certain acts or fetishes, needs to know what's inside. I guess you can have something called "Beautiful and intelligent women", but also have the front of the box show a pussy wrecked and dripping with cum. That would probably work. But only if the text was small and the picture was big.

I think most my titles aren't too offensive, except maybe Swallow Sluts. I try to K.I.S.S. (keep it simple, stupid!)

Creampie Cuties (100% internal)
For Your Eyes Only (tease)
Creamed Cuties (oral)
Asian Creampies (internal asians!)
Trixie Swallows (blonde swallowing goddess)
Swallow Sluts (oral/swallowing)
Hennessie (cute 19 yr old creampie lover)

I think sometimes the extreme crazy porno titles are done in fun, and sometimes not by some of the producers who truly dislike women. But there are much more men in the business who love women than vice versa. Oh and welcome back simp.

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But I also agree with the notion that the word is being taken back by the women in the porn community. I can easily picture a lot of these girls being called sluts in their home towns or high schools (at least in the US), treated like the local tramp, a pariah, etc. In porn, I see women looking into the cameras and gleefully announcing "I am a SLUT! I LOVE fucking!" and owning it like a badge of honor. They live in this parallel universe of the porn world where they are treated like queens for being sluttier than everybody else. It may not apply to all male talent out there, but I hear them sometimes refer to girl as sluts with an edge of respect and awe in their tone (again, sometimes). As a woman, I don't mind hearing it, although like with everything else it always depends on the situation and context.

Everyone should have the opportunity to have a career doing what they love the most. Here in porn both men (yes, men are sluts too) and women can be both as slutty as they have always wanted to be and make tons more dinero in one week doing it than probably half the people back home that mocked them do in several months.

I admit I'm pretty naive when it comes to the world of porn. There's a lot out there I haven't seen, because most of it bores me. I have a lot of male friends who buy porn and I never got the impression from them that the word "slut" or "whore" made them think any less of the women in the movie.

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* There is a magazine called "Bitch" that caters to - and is published by - women who are feminists.

* There is a magazine called "Heeb" that caters to - and is published by - Generation-X Jews.

* Gay academics often refer to college courses devoted to non-heterosexual themes as "queer studies"

* ...and then there is the frequent use of the N-word by young African-Americans.

Bringing this back to porn:

Some of the titles mentioned are made by women who don't see those words as derogatory to them when used "among the tribe". It's not just men who rent/purchase this material.

In the 20th-century, porn producers did quite well for themselves without such film titles. Does that mean that there was no significant woman-bashing male audience? Or is it that this new century has spawned, out of nowhere, misogynists who never would have bothered with 20th-century porn because the titles were too respectful?

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And as far as being deogratory to us females??? :P NAhhhh it's all in fun loving and good nature...if it wasn't I for one certainly wouldn't do it.

Peace,
Crissy
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While some women consume porn -- though even fewer of that number are, I'm certain, in the actual economic equation, in other words they watch what their male sig other watches -- the number of women renting/buying/watching Red Light District et al has got to be negligible (except for the Paris Hilton vid -- I'm sure that has an incredibly high female-viewing spike).

Simp, meet Sheldon. You two should have coffee. He will help you rationalize your pain away.

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Perhaps this will in turn prompt a greater consumption of mainstream pornography among priests, & relieve the pressure that is a great deal of the cause of their ... indiscretions.

As well, even though still technically virgins, the Host-swallowing porn actresses WILL have various sins to confess ("Father, I did a pissmops today & took the savior's name in vain when Khan urinated in my mouth," "Father, I told a lie when I said to Vince Voyeur that perenieum wart was just a shaving scar," "Father, I was the one who stole GIa's glass and subbed it with baby powder and just a little Drano, I swear!"),

& with this new policy, the shepherds will be better trained to guide these sheep: "Just three Hail Marys, my child, you're only human. That mind-fucking Semite has one nasty site. Are you going to be on the next DVD collection, by the way?"

I deserve to be on the next Vatican council.

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+1 DAC

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And your idea is wasted in the Vatican...may I recommend Congress? This is a hell of a lot better than "abstinence-only" sex-ed, particularly for us hetero sodomites.

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Besides, they don't really give me any erection but they do tell me the level of smut that I am renting/buying.

Edited by - green-toke on 6/5/2005 6:39:45 AM

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I always wonder why a lot of so called porn fans dont seem to genuinely like the smut they watch, but feel a need to feel bad about it somewhere deep in their heart. And somehow want to save their soul by constantly attacking the very thing they support with their money.

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However, note that this guy has started this thread but has not responded to anything posted in it.

My vote is:

+1 troll

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Boys, watch your CUM GUZZLING FILTHY GAGGING DDP-TAKING WHORES on DVD.
I don't mind.
But stop calling members of ADT trolls only because they have a "less refined porn taste" than you.

Don't you see you're in fact acting just like the extreme right-wing.

Edited by - juha on 6/5/2005 6:53:21 AM

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Edited by - Loraine on 6/6/2005 2:29:50 AM

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Important 1: Ladies are willing to do it. So no need to feel guilty watching, Matthew! Why not feel good watching something other people want to do? Its all about better than watching lets say a car accident which involves something that all participants wanted to happen.

Important 2: It sells units. Sale figures proove that there is customer demand. As long as porn actors are willig to stage what sells, fine.

Important 3: Consumer pleasure. Porn is just an entertainment industry. Please try to remember that!

And last but not least: Especially for those of us aquainted with German porn productions or licences: German box covers - title and description - tent to be the most deregatory since 10 years. I dont see any developpement to the worse with them. They always were quite tasteless. Examples: Ehehure, Fickschlampe etc. Read boxcovers descritions of lets say Testosteron and you meet a new level of porn cliche derogation...

Edited by - Mienhagen on 6/6/2005 2:39:48 AM

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Now, to the subject at hand. As Mienhagen has stated, "Ladies are willing to do it." So don't feel bad about whacking off to it, it is just natural really. You are just not de-sensitized to it yet but give it time and you will be. But don't force it, a little bit at a time and soon enough you will be blowing ginormous loads to this type of porn. You will crave it and won't be able to get enough of it. Remember, most of the girls in these films can't get enough of this nasty sex either.

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Yeah Matthew get with it, toughen up -- you too should aspire to buy and enjoy tasteless cliche porn...

It's a tough bargain to make I think -- I want to enjoy all the nasty filthy sex that's on the DVD but I have to put up with the shitty boxcover? That's got to be in contravention of some basic human right or international convention doesn't it?

"And it'll make your dick harder if I tell you on the box just how nasty these gals are, because you dear fool have got no concept -- none at all-- I have to spell it out, they're nasty whores, got it? No? Hold on, nasty, nasty whores. Let me repeat that for you in gaudy colours."

Oh you're making me sad. Degradation of sex is one thing -- degradation of language is unforgivable.

Maybe Matthew you should have posted your concerns to the per peeve thread -- that's the legitimate place to make complaints not out here in the open air.

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If so, I think there are still a lot of titles and boxcover descriptions out there he can rent/buy without feeling bad.

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Now matthew, for this type of 'derogatory to women' fantasy to become erotic, just remember back to highschool or college and all of those girls who would not give you the time of day. Remember how angry that it made you and how you wished that you could have fucked each and everyone of them in the ass. Use your Anger, because your anger will make you stronger and more powerful then ever. More capable of larger cum blasts. Use the darkside of the porn.

Edited by - green-toke on 6/6/2005 5:10:12 AM

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