Here we are its 2008 and studios should be getting ready for Blu-ray with better picture quality. Yet some studios are putting out product that is inferior to their own work in previous years on their dvds. What is the strategy behind that? Get us to notice a bigger difference with Blu-ray or lack of quality control or a cost cutting measure? Bang Bros released Brandi Belle 8 on dvd recently and the quality appears to be like a copy of a copy of a copy of a vhs tape with severe pixelation, poor focus and washed out colors....particularly in the first scene. Yet the older Brandi Belle dvds are of better quality. Certainly if they put out dvd or worse quality on a Blu-ray disk and expect a higher price they better call a bankruptcy attorney. Thoughts? Anyone notice this with any companies?
It's definitely a cost cutting measure. Sales are down. The girls already get less paid than they used to. Now the next step is cutting back on technical equipment and people who know how to use it.
Why do people even want high definition porn (I'm assuming Blu-ray has something to do with HD...)? Doesn't it just highlight shaving rash and pimples?
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Fernandez Deactivated User
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Posted - Dec 27 2008 : 5:46PM
Beats me, Frank. Bizarre that anyone would want reality.
Alright, don't want to offend anyone here. I realize it's a popular opinion to want HD. I guess I just think of porn as porn, and different from reality. Also, since I'm not in love with the performer, haven't met them, haven't smelled them, don't even know them, that I find rashes and the like to detract from the hotness of a scene. I guess if HD also highlights freckles, peach fuzz, and birthmarks that would be a positive.
How does having a clearer more realistic picture only highlight the negatives? Seriously do you guys really feel you've been shielded from the real horror that is pornstars. You know SD pictures can be damn good, whatever the imperfections were we've been staring right at them for a long time and somehow we've been able to tolerate it all.
I am with you guys. I am happy with the footage the way it is. Who wants to see pimples and other blemishes on their porn stars. In my honest opinion, HD is only good for sports.
Some thougts... 1. How would your buying from a studio be affected, that you normally buy from, that downgrades it quality to about vhs level for its dvd releases? 2. Do you have any examples of studios that have released current product that is of lower picture quality than its older releases? 3. I have a theory that people that don't like hd porn are the same people that can't tell the difference between fake and real tits, am I right?
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undone Deactivated User
what's for dinner? 214 Posts 6/07
Posted - Dec 27 2008 : 10:27PM
It's really simple, shoot the girls who look awesome on HD and the others who don't make the cut on SD. Just do a test shoot with the camera and roll back. Let's not just shitcan HD because some girl's imperfections show up, there are those that deserve the format for the pleasure of the viewers. Remember, it's not this or that, but inbetween.
I haven't seen this title but severe pixelation usually implies that someone didn't bother to set the bit rate correctly. Could be an attempt to save money and someone just set the bit rate at one specific number instead of checking the disc to see where it needed to be set higher. Poor focus and washed out colors could very well be due to the camera operator not knowing how to run their equipment and have nothing to do with the DVD authoring.
High Definition seems to have some good points and bad points. The mid and longer range shots turn out a lot better. However, the close-ups can be downright scary. I did a recent review that went into some detail concerning the high-def aspects of porn from the viewer's perspective. I found the best part was the mid-range shots, from about the perspective where you would be standing 6-8 feet away from the performers. It gave me a sense that I was on the set. The long-range shots were less "what the hell is going on?" and more, "wow, Jenna Haze looks awesome from 20 feet away". I also just checked out Bring'em Young 27 in Blue-ray where the clarity took away from the scene due to the younger performer's blemished complexions. It was a rental but the price range on the purchase of that DVD was 30-50 US, which is total insanity if you ask me. Edited by - bartx on 12/28/2008 12:36:33 AM
I'd like to say something about Evil Angel which is probably the last company you would expect to take a step backward in terms of quality. But as much as I love the stuff they put out I think they have always been somewhat technically inferior. They used to shoot in 4:3 up until recently and their picture had this kinda reddish tint that many people complained about. However now that they shoot in HD there is something that is even bothering me more and that is their DVDs not being widescreen. Instead they opted for letterboxed. I guess many people won't even be able to tell the difference but to me this is really a deal breaker. I'm not gonna pay 30 Dollars for a technically inferior product. Their movies look totally crap that way on my big screen. The first movie I have noticed this on was Girltrain and I couln't watch it till the end even though the movie is really great. I don't know if they put out many other movies that way but I hope it is just a temporary confusion. People nowadays have widescreen TVs so give them widescreen movies already. And better yet give them everything on Blu-ray. Evil Angel is probably the best studio out there, always ahead of the competition in terms of content and they have like what 2 Blu-rays out? But if it isn't really profitable yet than I can understand that of course. And as for the HD vs SD discussion I don't know why every time this topic is discussed someone has to come up with this ridiculous "you can see the flaws on girls" argument. I have heard this a thousand times now and I'm pretty sure in 99% of all cases it comes from people who haven't even seen a porn Blu-ray. I myself couldn't care less about slight imperfections on the performer's bodies. And you can see those in SD too as long the camera is close enough. HD basically means more pixels right? So in SD you got enough pixels already to show almost any imperfection as long as the camera is real close. HD only shows it real advantage when the camera is further away from the action.
I have a blu ray player and a regular dvd, the only thing I would say is that blu ray seems more like a transitional change rather than a fundamental change. The problem is that the experience isn't as dramatic as moving from vhs to dvd, hence, the change will be slow. And to be honest, at the moment it probably doesn't turn a profit like a regular dvd.
Prophit I think it is a subjective area relative to the viewers taste. For example, personally, I have never cared for the up-close, gynecological shots. HD makes it even worse for me in that regard. But I like the feeling of being in the the room or on the set, so the mid and long range shots in HD make it that much better. If a viewer doesn't care to see the flaws and HD exacerbates them, than they will not care for certain aspects of HD filming. It isn't "ridicules", it is a matter of taste.
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the unknown pervert Deactivated User
I'd like to stay but I've got a plane to catch. 3243 Posts 5/06
Posted - Dec 28 2008 : 9:26AM
The trend is growing to a point where more people are downloading it off their computer than watch it on Blu-Ray or DVD anyway. Put yourself in a porn company's shoes, why spend the money?