IMO vomiting in porn is fucking gross, but it's becoming more mainstream, just like anal did in the past dozen years. Perhaps people have gotten desensitized to things like anal and vomit-inducing facefucking is the next step up. Pornstars like Whitney Westgate, Callie Calypso, Karmen Karma, and many many more are just some of the "mainstream" (i.e. not the pornstars that FacialAbuse has) pornstars who now have puking scenes out. ~ Hottest girl in porn = Miss Palestine ~
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Posted - Mar 19 2015 : 1:00AM
I don't know that I agree that it's becoming more mainstream. It's still much more likely to be edited out or avoided/discouraged than included in most mainstream scenes. I'd like to see more of it, but in the current atmosphere it's unlikely that it will become the new thing. Edited by - misspornUSA on 3/19/2015 1:02:12 AM
Yeah, I don't see any evidence that vomiting is becoming more mainstream. It's still pretty fringe. For the record I think it's gross, but a lot of people think the stuff I'm into is gross. As long as performers are freely consenting and being well compensated, I turn a blind eye to it.
'''Pornstars like Whitney Westgate, Callie Calypso, Karmen Karma, and many many more are just some of the "mainstream" (i.e. not the pornstars that FacialAbuse has) pornstars who now have puking scenes out.''' --------------------------------- What was Whitney Westgate's scene in, please?
Friends - I think there IS something to this, and think that this kind of stuff is more prevalent than it used to be. I find the vomiting, and the spitting, and the rivers of drool and saliva in today's porn very off-putting, and certainly not sexy or erotic. I'm old, but I've noticed that younger folks who have grown up with shows like "Jackass", "Ridiculousness", "Tosh 2.0", "Beavis &Butthead", "South Park", etc..., and all the various "reality tv" and video clip shows that feature or emphasize disgusting stuff, are more inclined to find vomiting funny and entertaining, and have less of a problem with it than I do. It seems that way in general life, and I guess porn is no different. BSD
It isn't *mainstream*, but it's becoming less uncommon. At the I think the only major company who do it regularly is Evil Angel. When Wicked do it then it'll be mainstream. I think the reason why it's growing in popularity is that it's a great way to show male domination of the women. Personally I'm a huge fan. I'd love to see Wicked contract stars like Jessica Drake be throat fucked until her make up was a mess and her tits glistened with pints of drool.
I think you are way, WAY wrong here. I dont know how old are you, but im 32 yers old, and yes i might be the Mtv generation, but i enjoy more mature TV shows like house of cards or game of thrones, and found the shows you mentioned hideous to say the least. However, i do enjoy the spitting and the rivers of drool and saliva as you describe them, extremely erotic and sexy. This is becoming a nieche for a few directors, but if you dont like that sorta stuff, then avoid those directors. Easy as that. If you dont like violent movies for example, you wouldnt go see a Tarantino film. But if you do, and you get offended by violence, is your fault. Nobody else. Just dont put us in the same bag than people who are able to enjoy stuff like Jackass Edited by - MetalC on 3/19/2015 1:20:56 PM
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Posted - Mar 19 2015 : 2:56PM
Ordinarily I find vomitting disgusting, even when its faked in movies. Porn for me is the only exception, and it has to be other women who are vomitting. Watching men puke is something else entirely. Recently I watched Lucifer Valentine's semi-pornographic Vomit Gore Trilogy. The content in that series is popularly considered extreme, but the only thing that was too much for me in all three films was the sight of a guy named Hank Skinny vomitting. At any rate, you won't catch me watching any vomit themed videos on You Tube though, like MetalC, I'm in my thirties.
This is messed up. I think the biggest reason this should be cut out of scenes is because the viewers cannot prepare for this and atleast skip it, if a girl pukes all of a sudden you're gonna see it and get grossed out if you're not into it. They really have to stop this, and I'm looking mostly at you Mike Adriano.
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Posted - Mar 19 2015 : 3:21PM
^Watching trailers, reading descriptions, and reading reviews/viewer comments seems like a more reasonable solution. If something you dislike is common in a director's videos/scenes, then avoid videos/scenes from that director.
Man if ur not into puke, why are you watching Mike Adriano movies? ok, lets follow your logic. You dont like puke. we cut that. somebody else dont like anal, we cut that. oh guess what? that guy overthere is not into oral... lets cut it! see my point? Besides, i think we should start stablishing difference. one thing is saliva, spit, gagging, puking saliva... and another whole different thing is vomit...i mean like when peope throw up when they are drunk. somehow, they wanna put that in the same bag...is totally different. ive seen some jap puke movies and they make Mike Adriano look like barney the dinosaur. also: guy puking, big no girl sick puking, again no girl throat raped AKA facefucking, facialabuse... disgusting, so def no whats ok in my list? girls spitting, drooling, saliva games, either on each other or cock... big YES! and yes, some puke g/g scene could be hot... as long as both are enjoying it there r many fetishes, and why some r ok while other arent? as long as all parts involved r of legal age, and concent, shouldnt be an issue
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Posted - Mar 19 2015 : 4:00PM
How does that in any way answer the OP's question: "Why are vomiting scenes becoming more mainstream?" I think that this may be the thread you are looking for.
@ MetalC, you completely missed my point. Oral, anal etc. are all thing that the viewer can be prepared for and skip by fast forwarding. Puking happens abruptly and is like one or two seconds. The viewer is caught off guard, has no way to unsee what he/she just saw and is likely grossed out and turned off by the rest of the scene. A good percentage of porn that I watch has things in it that I don't like but it doesn't matter because I can fast forward that part. Some of you are acting like I'm being selfish with this. How is that? This is completely logical reasoning here.
@2bollocks my fellow porn friend, problem with censorship is that you know where it starts, but you dont know where it would end. In the words of Voltaire: I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it
Really? I'm in my 20s and I think Tosh.0 is pretty tasteless and I even like Tosh as a comic. Maybe I'm just offended at how cheap the humor is. Either way, I don't think people being into puke is a new thing. IIRC the Slap Happy series and Extreme Associates put out lots of this stuff in the 90s and guys in those scenes seem pretty into it. Then there's Max of course. It's probably just that there's more access now so more people see THAT they're into it than before. Back then you had to know someone or go to a store to get the good shit.. For the record, IMO there is a right and a wrong way to do puke, as anyone with a nose who's had it happen can tell you. It's hot when it's just milk or cream, red bull, etc; Rice and beans? not so much..I'm not for imposing creative decisions on directors, but you do have a point. It'd probably be better if directors could label their scenes, but the threat of Obscenity keeps them from doing this so there's no straight talk in descriptions. They feel they can only show it if they sneak it in. Why don't you just watch directors who share your tastes?
^ Finding a director who shares your tastes is the best thing to do. Right now my go-to's are Mason, William H., Jules Jordan, Chris Streams, and Manuel Ferrara. No puking in any of their movies so I don't have to worry about happening on any thing that would take me out of the scene.
Yesterday's taboo is tomorrow's mainstream. Look at anal - it's so ubiquitous and expected now it's positively dull. I joined facial abuse a while back to see what the fuss was about and have rarely been as bored by anything in my quarter of a century of porn viewing. People are being desensitized to all manner of horrible shit, thanks to the Internet.
I am already into other directors. But Adriano has a lot of girls do first anals with him so it's tempting. Plus he's influential in the industry so if he keeps doing this, who's to say other directors won't follow suit and put this 'catch you off guard with puking' stuff into scenes? This thread is already implying that more people are starting to do it. Also the evolution of anal is not comparable to this. Puking will never become mainstream no matter how much they would try to push it, just like ATM-skidmarks. Some things just won't ever fit.
Puking is not sex nor sexy, even if a penis happens to be involved; it is about domination. Puke porn will not become mainstream, bacause domination-themed porn will not become mainstream. I believe the mainstream of porn will always be about everyone having a pleasurable experience and appearing to have a pleasurable experience. Even if there are some people who get off on the dominant/submissive dynamic, it is only a minority.
^I think it's sexy. at least *some* of the time.. That said you're right about it never catching on. Lowest-common denominator dominates in free markets. Most people think it's bizarre and that probably won't change cause it is. That said, I'm seeing more girls in their 20s at least “get” what it's about, even if they're not into it. I'm glad it's out there for comment, since things get weirder in places when there's NO outlet for weird shit. (I mean weirder in a bad way) I'd hate to be lumped in w/ shady grey areas trying to stay off the record. Today the slop fans; Tomorrow YOU!
Sexyness is subjective to every person, and every human bein have different notion of what sexy or erotic can be depending of a wide range of things, from a cultural element to just simply taste. If we all like the same things, whatever is clothes, food, women or whatever u wanna mention, this would be a very boring world. Who are we to say or determine what other person find sexy or arousing? Is fine that some arent into puke, or drooling, or spit play or whatever. But what really isnt fair play, is that they wanna tell us who find puke sexy that is just plain wrong. Why? says who? society? goverment? censorship? why we have the urge to try to control everything? Put a label to everything. Somebody said something about sub/dom. That might be. But even in those relationships, both sides enjoy their roles. In Mike Adriano movies, i never seen a girl who seems like shes in pain or suffering. Is all a controled enviroment. In fact, i think the girl have more control over the situation than anybody else in the shoot.
^We're not saying that this porn shouldn't be made, they just shouldn't put acts like this in regular gonzo movies where nobody is expecting or can be prepared for it. There are niche websites that offer this where fetishists can get what they want without affecting everybody. You can't force people to like something. If they don't like it they just don't.
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Posted - Mar 21 2015 : 10:34AM
^"You can't force people to like something. If they don't like it they just don't." And they should choose not to watch it rather than demanding that it be removed.
^We have the right to "demand it to be removed"(way to put words into mouths) if we do not have an option to avoid it. I already explained several times that this act is not something that can be avoided by the viewer. Lets also put skidmark-anal into all scenes too and if people don't like it, they should just not watch it? Doesn't work like that.
2bollocks has a point. why put that shit in a regular movie when there are already places for that specifically? and as for not watching it, how does that work if they dont explicitly say its a puke scene? because even i dont just expect puke in a regular gonzo scene.
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Posted - Mar 22 2015 : 2:16PM
I'm totally fine with deepthroating/facefucking/sloppy, saliva-filled BJs, in fact I like them. But when colored stuff and/or chunks start to come up, that is where I draw the line.
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Posted - Mar 22 2015 : 3:54PM
^^^No one's questioning your rights, and I don't understand how I am putting words into your mouth. A demand is "an insistent and peremptory request, made as if by right." Does that not accurately describe what you are doing? Mike Adriano, for example, obviously likes something that you do not, as do many of his fans. He is not producing generic porn à la Brazzers, but rather porn that is in line with his specific interests as a performer and fan. Should he alter his interests to line up with your's while at the same alienating fans who already like what he's doing? Maybe such a move would seem perfectly reasonable to you, but not to me.I have never, ever, encountered unexpected puking in a scene, so maybe it's just a matter of my not being able to relate, but earlier I suggested "Watching trailers, reading descriptions, and reading reviews/viewer comments." Using Adriano as an example again, if a viewer is watching the scene for the sex and is frightened about the possibility of puke they can just skip the bj the same way some viewers skip the tease. Of course, if it's an all oral scene or movie that's not an option, but in such a case they should expect puking anyway if that's what the director is in to.
I wish it did become more mainstream, because I hardly see proper puking (as opposed to gloopy saliva dribbling) anywhere. Sure, call me a pervert, but I miss the good 'ol Max Hardcore days, when he'd have girls puke over each other whilst getting fucked. If people have gone back to producing material like this, please point me in the right direction, as I'm not currently seeing it! :(
I was wondering...if, in the 21st Century, this is the kind of stuff people (men, usually) are drawn to at the outset of their porn-viewing lives or if it's something they gravitate towards as they become jaded with more 'traditional' sexual acts? Me, I'm bored of everything now - I genuinely believe I'm unshockable as far as porn goes - but back when I started watching I don't ever recall thinking "I wish there was porn in which girls throw up (on cocks and each other). That'd be sexy."
^ Some women have an eating disorder, where they binge on food and then force themselves to throw up. It's called Bulimia Nervosa. This is probably where women throwing up in porn comes from. Some female porn-stars probably have this disorder, and they show signs of it in their movies. Women are more likely to have this disorder, when they are concerned about their looks and are doing their best to look good. Which is the case for every female porn-star. It's a mental disorder and not just a physical illness. But it does lead to physical illness eventually, when the woman does it for some time. Seeing this in porn isn't such a good thing. Because women, who do it, are likely to get seriously ill and drop out of making porn.
Mate with all respect, i think you are overanalizing things. We just find things sexy sometimes and thats it. Is just a matter of taste. Just like we have certain preferences towards food or clothes. Some people like vanilla icecream. Others like chocolate one
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Posted - Mar 26 2015 : 3:53PM
^^The truth is that depending on one's gag reflex, level of experience, and tolerance for swallowing vomit, if you're deepthroating and/or being "face fucked" vomiting is not an extraordinary outcome. When this occurs on a porn set, it's usually edited out.
Didn't realise Bulimia/eating disorders even came into it. I thought it was simply a case of the producers going "let's see how nasty and/or (borderline) misogynistic we can be". My question in my last post wasn't really about why it happens. I wanted to know the reasons people are attracted to it. And, by the way, I'm not against it in any way, shape or form. I like to see women being dominated and pushed to their limits - but sites like FA are still boring. I don't think the problem is what they're doing, it's the lack of creativity in the execution. They've purposely set out to make (one of) the nastiest sites on the Internet - why not go hog wild? Where are the FA blowbangs? I'd pull up a chair for that.
Vomit isn't just about bad taste. It also damages the teeth and the esophagus of the person who vomits. Because the stomach acid is so strong. If it happens very rarely, then the body is able to repair the damage. But doing it on purpose is asking for health trouble.
If someone routinely throws up on purpose, their gag reflex becomes weaker. So, Dan's logic is wonky. Ashley Blue's trademark was her amazing lack of gag reflex/putting her hand down her throat. She explains in her autobiography that her bulimia enabled this.
I have an aversion with vomit, so you would think this type of thing would not be up my alley at all. But for some reason, some of the "lighter" aspects of it don't bother me (gagging, upchucking spit). It certainly doesn't prevent me from watching Adriano flicks. Other than that though, you'll never find me watching vomit films. As for the "why" they're becoming mainstream? I mean, I don't even think of it as being all that mainstream. I just look at it as a side effect of more aggressive face-fucking and deep-throating. Meaning, most directors aren't going out of their way to make the girls puke, but if it happens, it happens. Like someone else said, I'm into some things that are out there. With things I'm disgusted by or otherwise not interested in, I just chalk it up to "every fetish has at least one fan" and keep it moving.
First, want to introduce myself to the forums and say hi. I am a long time lurker. I think this is an individual thing. In my personal life, I have found it very exciting for me and my partners to nudge the boundaries of what we've done together and explore new areas. I believe I get out of porn what I put into it. In the case of Adrianos movies, I bring this idea of stretching the limits with a girl to the fantasy and it makes it much hotter. I agree with BSD that the sloppy spit/vomit throatfuck is getting to be a more acceptable practice. No doubt boundaries for a larger population are being nudged, bit by bit. Question is, how far will it go?
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