Seen movies where woman are pratically choking when deepthroating, as if being tortured to please the guy, I do not like it. Some do well taking it all in and do not choke, but is this stuff supposed to be appealing?
I hated it at first too, but seeing it done well, some of the scenes in the Suck It Dry series for example (Adriana DeVille, Bobbi Bliss, Jayna Oso's scenes to name a few), I have warmed to the gagging/forced deepthroat thing a little. What I don't like is how things like this (and this applies to a lot of things in porn) turn into a fad and have to be done to the exclusion of other things. Now damn near every blowjob has to have gagging and there's little if any actual head work. Fellatio (real fellatio) is becoming a lost art. Edited by - MrTibbs on 10/13/2009 10:29:10 PM
They don't have to (I hope) but it's kind of hot. Though I prefer girls that are really talented, who can deepthroat controlled without gagging (so very rare, now I'm sad porn fan).
To each his own, but it actually makes me feel nauseous and about to gag. Accommodating diverse tastes is fine, but it sucks when something you hate becomes mandatory in every single porn release. As a result, I usually just skip over BJ scenes nowadays. And I only buy used DVDs so I don't have to waste money on something I don't support. Along with the shaved-cunts only trend, the gagging craze really turns me away from mainstream American porn.
I find this about as erotic or sexually exciting as watching paint dry. I know porn, as in all entertainment, is about indulging the viewers fantasy but come on, if a woman can deep throat this contrived choking stuff is not at all realistic. I mean if it's supposed to be in the genre' of Dominance and she is being forced maybe it's OK.
I agree. It as if the woman are being raped when they gag during a blowjob when in fact they just do what they are directed to do. It just does not seem as if they enjoy it.I would settle with a half way down the shaft for a woman to suck, along with plenty of tongue work then a cum shot on her face, but their poor eyes! Do they swallow anymore?
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Posted - Oct 14 2009 : 8:10PM
What makes you think they're being directed to gag on cock? Have you heard a director suggest it? There's this rampant misconception that scenes are micromanaged right down to the moans. Some of the women in porn are what I call aggressively submissive. They'll put their arms behind their back and invite their partner to take whatever liberties he likes, then actively jam his joint into their throats themselves. Eagerness to please, enthusiasm, and generally wanting to live life on the edge are more accurate reasons for this act that you likened to rape. There are plenty of polite tip suckers for you to enjoy in porn. Go for it. I'd rather watch Rocco give deep throat lessons or Bobbi Star try to open a hole in the back of her neck with a big dick.
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Posted - Oct 14 2009 : 11:49PM
Lots and lots of fake gagging in porn. Goofy. Anyone heard the Randy West podcast where he says getting deepthroated doesn't usually even feel good because most of the girls scrape your cock with their teeth?
I so agree, this is PORN ffs, not the real hollywood. I bet there are directors who think they're making big movies, but most understand that porn is nothing but porn and best kept that way.
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Posted - Oct 15 2009 : 3:09AM
The women are taught to do these things by directors and then they do it on their own initiative because that's what they think they're supposed to do: for example the silly thing where they reach around and spread their own ass cheeks. This is how women become 'pornofied.' That's why some viewers prefer watching amateurs or the girls early on in their careers, before they learn to fuck in an overdone porn style.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Oct 15 2009 : 4:49AM
Sure, some women would like it, but as WardqueenJanine points out it would largely be those into pretty rough sex, which despite what porn may tell you is not the majority of women (or men for that matter). We don't need to see it in every single blow job scene, it's overdone. I remember first seeing the gagging thing in the early Animal Trainer videos by Rocco, that was real, but in porn 90 percent of the time these days the woman is PRETENDING to gag on the cock, she's not actually gagging the way Rocco was making the women in those early videos.
I love it. I'm not really into stuff like choking and spiting and slapping, and a lot of stuff in S&M does not turn me on, but something about gagging it just never getting boring for me.
It only bothers me in the sense that I think it's way overdone these days. I prefer real sucking and natural gagging that comes from it sometimes, not the faked forced kind where girls are gagging on cocks they normally wouldn't be. Used to be I only expected to see it in something directed by Joey Silvera, since he obviously likes it. Now it's practically in every scene it seems.
I'm OK with the gagging (Though I prefer it to be real and be done by someone who gets into it). Lately, I've been noticing while the girl is sucking (or gagging or whatever she's doing orally), the dude will bend over her head and start messing around with her ass. Now normally, this might be OK as a one time thing but it's become one of those things that seems to happen in every porn flick as though it's required. Every time the dude is standing and the girl is on her knees blowing, the dude goes for the ass. Weird.
The best blowjob I ever saw was in the orgy/boat scene in Caligula (yes it's a porn movie)...the girl looked like she was making love it and she was enjoy it before he came right in her mouth. You don't see that anymore. Usually, they gag her with it, and then spend the next five minutes stroking it for her. Edited by - gman992 on 10/16/2009 2:54:12 AM
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Posted - Oct 16 2009 : 7:31AM
1. can't agree that it's in every BJ scene, maybe the DVD market is different regarding this, but if I look at the web scenes I've seen in the past year, it's really only where I'd expect it to be. 2. if you don't care for the act itself, what difference does it make if it's real (Rocco) or not? What I see are more female performers who are comfortable with doing gagging scenes and doing something with this theme. Developing an individual take on it. That's where it gets interesting imo. Of course, if you don't like something, and a performer you like on a pin-up level does it a lot in her scenes because it works for her, you're disappointed, that's understandable. You like her, and you want to see her get fucked like you want, not like those other creeps want it.
It's actually the male performers most of the time that usually make the girls do the gaggy shit. They'll hold their heads down and throat fuck them until they choke. I personally hate the gagging shit but did it because I though for a while that it's what I was supposed to do. I give a hell of a BJ and love to worship the cock. I can fake the gagging if it's asked for because I usually end up with throat infections if I try to really do it. If it's a blow job only scene then the spit and and gagging are to be expected. I always thought guys would want to watch a really good blow job gagging or not but what do I know? I suppose some get off on the theatrics.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Oct 17 2009 : 3:56AM
Maybe it is more prevalent in DVD porn because it seems like a lot of BJs now involve the girl saying 'do you want me to gag on your cock?' and me thinking 'no not again'!It fits in a rough sex scene, like the ones Rocco was doing, and then I don't mind it but I don't think it fits into a more-or-less vanilla sex scene. It's like when choking was getting overdone a few years ago, I don't understand why this shit goes in cycles.I agree but the problem with so much porn is that it is just rote formula, not about letting the performers really do what they like.
I kinda like it sometimes. a few years ago I bought a throat gaggers dvd, mainly because it was one of the few in this small porn shop that looked like it had some good swallowing and facial stuff. Wehn I wathced it, it was the first time I had ever seen anything like that as far as the gagging goes. And it actually turned me on. But now that I've been really into porn for a while, its getting OLD. I agree with the people who said its ok, but its WAY over done.
I generally agree. But I think almost anything can work if it's done right. That is it could work for people who aren't actually just plain turned off by it whether or not it's done well. I've seen a few scenes where everything else was as vanilla as you might expect it to be in a feature and then they did a choking/gagging/whateveryoucallit blowjob and actually did it well. The atmosphere, the set and all the things that were done very well in these scenes actually enhanced the sex. It also helped that they seemed to have female performers who appeared to enjoy it or at least cared enough about the scene to act the part. What made it even better was that it wasn't even all that rough. It was a tempered performance where they didn't go too far and make it ridiculously messy and rough just for the sake of doing it.I think a lot of people agree with that. Edited by - randomprecision on 4/5/2011 1:36:44 AM
JMO,one more reason to not buy porn anymore,that and the speading of the cheeks and the pinch mose crap is really annoying,not to mention the slapping of the ass during sex.
LMAO! Well, I guess I'm one of the biggest dopes on here. And proud of it. I LOVE gagging when it occurs naturally, as a consequence of a girl taking a cock deeper in her mouth than she's used to. Some girls gag just from a cock hitting the back of their tongues, and even that can be hot as hell. I'm thinking in particular of this girl Jynx (not Jynx Maze) who did a few films back in 2004-2005. She would make this incredibly loud gagging sound whenever a cock went into her mouth even a couple inches, and believe me, it wasn't fake. She's in "Throat Gaggers #5", and Jake Malone and Tony T (I think) really work her over. You may want to wear headphones when you watch this scene, because little Jynx makes some of the loudest gagging sounds you can imagine. Very entertaining.
Others I'm sure enjoy doing it, and clearly many enjoy wayching it, judging by its frequency. Personally, I feel that slapping the woman's ass is so ubiquitous to have lost any appeal it might once have had and is now just damned annoying. Mind you, the list of things that annoy me in porn these days is staggeringly long. I guess the ass slapping is just my irritation du jour. I do make an exception for scenes which specifically about spanking. But, just as part of sex -- I am so bored by this now. And, to get back to the topic, the gagging is another of those annoyances -- it will ALWAYS make me skip a scene at once. No matter who is in it or what will follow, I jettison it. Can't a guy get a sensual blowjob anymore?
So much b/g porn now looks unenjoyable for both the man and the woman. If the gagging trend had started before I received my first blowjob I might have never wanted to get one.
I hate gagging when the guy forces his dick in, but I love it when the girl does it deliberately herself. Even better when tears roll, she pauses to say something along the lines of "This blowjob brings tears to my eyes" and continues sucking without wiping her tears.
Just saw this girl , and your not kidding -any scene with her and she's gagging on anything more than two inches - yet she did anal or dp's in half her twenty scenes ! Look for her in Spring Chickens 6 , Un-Natural Sex 11 and Fuck Dolls 1 , she also starts to retch anytime cum gets near her mouth ! I wonder if thats why she had that spike piercing in her lower lip , to keep any cocks from getting to far in due to fear of being impaled !
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LMAO! Well, I guess I'm one of the biggest dopes on here. And proud of it. I LOVE gagging when it occurs naturally, as a consequence of a girl taking a cock deeper in her mouth than she's used to. Some girls gag just from a cock hitting the back of their tongues, and even that can be hot as hell. I'm thinking in particular of this girl Jynx (not Jynx Maze) who did a few films back in 2004-2005. She would make this incredibly loud gagging sound whenever a cock went into her mouth even a couple inches, and believe me, it wasn't fake. She's in "Throat Gaggers #5", and Jake Malone and Tony T (I think) really work her over. You may want to wear headphones when you watch this scene, because little Jynx makes some of the loudest gagging sounds you can imagine. Very entertaining.
Its not in every blowjob (thank goosdness) I think its not very sexy, unless the guy really has a big dick and it looks natural. I also don't like all the quacking.
I love it when girls gag on cocks in porn. Probably not so much in real life because I'd be worried about vomit. But it's hot seeing a girl looking like she's battling a cock. Whether the cock or the girl wins, they're both happy endings for me.
I don't like the forced fake gagging , all the duck quacking ,ect . Watching a pretty girl struggle with cock is hot , just watched newbie Belle Noir in Tweeters , as she's bent over blow the guy , there is the natural flinch , the sucking in of the belly and an involuntary arching of the back , that's sexy to me .
Personally it's turn off , understand when girl try to deep throat but forcing and gaging not sexy to me, but again I guess some people like it otherwise we would not have that many scenes
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Posted - Jun 5 2013 : 3:59PM
Why? Producers know there's a market out there who eat that shit up with a spoon. Mainly guys angry at the fact that they're unattractive and/or lack the social skills to have real life sex. They imagine they're the guy making chicks gag and get off on the fantasy. It's like "Yeah! He showed that bitch who's boss!"
Dude, give me, and everyone else here a break. How could you possibly know what "guys mainly" think? The only guy you know for sure is you. I'll let you draw the inference. I wouldn't think anyone would need to say that people are complex and there are probably more reasons for guys to like that or even hate that than there are hairs on your head. That you can only think of one says more about you than the group you're defaming. Suggest you put down the big, long, cigar and enjoy watching some porn of your choice.
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Posted - Jun 6 2013 : 8:56PM
^ Why so bent? I gave my opinion. Since you don't belong in my "mainly" category I'd be very interested in learning why girls gagging actually does appeal to you.
Why so bent?Maybe I'm alone but you cannot possibly have a valid opinion on what goes on in someone else's head, and the fact that I'm trying so hard to understand why you would even say something so stupid and I just can't is driving me crazy. I dunno, I would have just said that I don't like it and don't understand the people that do. No need to make shit up to insult half people participating in the discussion. That would seem rather basic, but I guess not. OK, I'm done.
Some of them are just faking it because some of you sick fuckers enjoy seeing rough sex scenes with women gagging, tearing up, choking, and sometimes throwin up (e.g. Facial Abuse, Ghetto Gaggers, Gag Factor). But some women I think have problems breathing threw their nose. The women who can do serious deep throating and hold it long time are able to breathe thru their noses (e.g. Belladonna, Bobbi Starr, Jeanna Fine). You can tell they are breathing thru their nose because sometimes guys like Rocco or Nacho Vidal will deep throat them and hold their heads and they sit there for long time no problem, then they will pinch their noses cutting off their air and that's when they pull away.
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Posted - Jun 7 2013 : 10:38AM
If the girl is being forced to choke and gag on the cock by the male performer(s) = not hot If the girl is choking and gagging (i.e. "struggling") because she is pushing herself = hot Used to be performers took great pride in being able to deep throat bigger cocks. But, I guess since today's porn has turned into a frat boy's fantasy of abusing women and degrading circus acts, shove the cock down her throat until she pukes, right?
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Posted - Jun 7 2013 : 4:09PM
First, I'm glad you're done because this topic obviously touched a nerve with you for some unexplained reason. Second, if the title of this thread was "Do you like woman having to gag on blowjobs", a simple response of "I don't like it" is clearly logical. Correct me if I'm wrong but the title of the thread is "Why are woman having to gag on blowjobs"? So why would I (or anyone) respond with simply "I don't like it" as you suggest? Op is soliciting opinions and I offered mine (which you don't like, and that's cool). But how exactly can an opinion be an insult to people participating in this thread? Furthermore, how is stating an opinion "making shit up"? Instead of insulting my opinion and bailing why not offer one of your own?!
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