Hi guys and girls, I've noticed alot lately that guys in porn dont cum unless they jerk off at the end of a scene, why is that? Drugs? When i first started watching porn from the 80's they never did this. IMO it makes the scene better if the guy cum's because the hot girl he is fucking makes him cum, i just cant imagine fucking something as hot as Phoenix Marie in the arse and not being able to get off!
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Posted - Jul 20 2008 : 1:32AM
Drew can we make a FAQ so this question isn't asked every 72 hours...No offense AL... In other matters, where was Phoenix Marie fucked in the ass?
LOL. Ok i'll change it, obviously im new here so sorry if this has been asked before, its a bit hard to search for this stuff. Phoenix Marie has done anal in 2 scenes i've seen, Assparade for Bangbros and Big butts like it big for Brazzers.
I knew it was something for Brazzers but was too lazy to look it up ...lol Yeah on the avatar, no big deal, just when you are at your profile page, read the etiquette info on posting pics (I don't care for them either-but I do understand why they are the way they are [see secondary porn producer definition]) The monitors are probably asleep, but they could deactivate with repeated violations Just FYI. In answer to your question, I imagine it is because (like shown in many BTS clips) the directors pause to set up and block specifically for the cum shot, after which the men may have lost some of the momentum they had. Some movies exist such as the "Drive Thru" series which features sex scenes from start to finish with no cuts. The wanking is at a minimum there. Since its been changed, who is in the new avatar? It looks kind of like Carmella Bing. The last one must have been Flower Tucci, I'd know that ass anywhere...lol. Edited by - algaliarept on 7/20/2008 2:24:46 AM
^^^huh...could've sworn that was Flower, shows what I know... In the upper right hand of this page is "Search" click on that and an advanced menu will appear. You can search for key words and phrases or exact topics. You can even narrow down the forums to search. I'd try that.
Maybe if you did it every day for years you would be able to imagine it.
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Posted - Jul 20 2008 : 10:08AM
Fair enough. You probably would have a hard time finding it. Maybe there should be a sticky for those questions that get asked over and over, like 'Is squirting real?', or 'where does the Easter bunny get all those eggs?'
Oh God. I think he's using "neech" in the wrong context. Rip him a new one, nietzsche!
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Posted - Jul 20 2008 : 1:49PM
Well a good start would be to look up in the right hand corner under member lists[i/] & clickon SEARCH!. If you can't work withe the ADT supplied form scroll down the page and look for Google. By the way you wouldn't really be John McCain would you?
Welcome to ADT. The question has been asked and answered, but don't be let it brother you. I think it only right that we keep this question before the industry to make them aware that there is a large majority that is fed up with all the masturbating. It kills the fantasy that the girls are hot.
I dont dispute that its totally ugly watching a guy jerk off, imho it can sometimes ruin a scene, especially if it goes on too long? The girl starts to look silly too, aaaaaaah.....erm... aaaaaarrrrggh.....ooh yeah cum on my face (tut)...aaaaaah....etc On the other 'hand', pun intended, its sometimes also down to whether the girl has a nice right wrist action etc etc or if she is just aimlessly pulling a pint of guiness? Also as someone mentioned earlier, the 'moment' kinda subsides after they cut, reposition lights, set up the shot, shot a monkey face and then ask you for the real pop... and quickly cos we are all waiting to go home with two minutes of tape! It is so easy to fall into the, well ok then lets just get it out asap. I have found myself there plenty of times too, literally forcing one out quickly cos its the easiest way to determine the exact pop moment. (kinda important if the director wants a simultanous double facial or something like that though) I for one would love the luxury of handing back over to the girl and given a moment to build it up again, nothing is more satisfying to me and me as a viewer than watching a girl jerk off a guy all over her face with a wide open mouth and a huge smile! When it does happen it looks great right!? Sometimes we get it no problem and those times I think it can top a scene off, turning it from good to great! Lets hope that actors and directors... and actresses hear this and make more effort to just let it be... naturally.
I understand when they do the facial, they usually go with the guy jerking to pop. What I don't get is why sometimes they show it for SO long. The overwhelming majority of people watching that kind of scene are straight males, who I would guess aren't sitting there hoping that they show the guy jerking it just a little bit longer. They want the pop.
I know how to search, if you look above in this thread I even mentioned to the newer OP how to do it myself. I was asking, how do I place in a post a link to another thread, say if I had first encountered this thread early on and wanted to show the OP a thread about the aforementioned topic. PS. this will probably get me deactivated here but...I consider myself a libertarian, and I meant what I said.
Color me a neophyte, but I have seen activated links in threads which directed someone (like our OP to this thread) to other similar threads on the same topic with this symbol under them: This is what I was referring to by "neech". Just a clarification.
they hire these dongs because they're durable. they don't squirt at the drop of a hat. in fact nothing the woman does will make them squirt. that's why those dongs are used, because bean counters know they're not going to fire off before they're supposed to. trouble is, their blessing is also their curse. when it comes time to have the sexy siren finish them off, she can't, because their orgasm is locked up tighter than a Brinks truck and only they know the secret combination of tugs that makes their dong vomit. one good way they sometimes try to fix this is having more than 1 guy in the scene and letting dude #2 fire off whenever he feels like it. That's at least a surprise, and sometimes it's even a genuine crescendo climax. But there's some of those dongs that actually cannot fire except by using the morse code of tugs that only they can do. it's a double edged "sword." I'd like to see more out of control finishes where dude really loses it. Maybe the facial became such an institution that people kept taking breaks to set up for it and they forgot the orgasm is supposed to be reached with a sense of urgency.
Thats it, it kills the fantasy that the girls are hot. There is one black guy, i dont know his name but in every scene he is in he pulls out of the girls pussy or arse and cums which makes the scene so much better IMO.
Not sure about "Naughty America," but Reality kings has at least two anal scenes posted involving the curvy and gorgeous Ms. Marie. One is on the site "Monster Curves" and is titled "Flaming Hips." The other is "Big Tits Boss" titled "Hard Work." I've got both and think the "Flaming Hips" scene is the better anal, mainly since she does a lengthy pre-anal solo prep scene in the tub, giving us long looks at her ass while she gets ready for her reaming. Although if you are fond of garter belts and lingerie, the Big Tits Boss has her getting anal'd while wearing a garters and stockings. Very hot.
Where is the urgent sex in porn?. How did porn drift so far away from reality?. Director shoot porn as a series of posed stills with the cum shot blocked as the last photo of the series. monkey power wrote: "in fact nothing the woman does will make them squirt." ntfighter wrote: That's fucked up right there. Guy fucking Maria Luv's ass and is not stimulated enough to cum?
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Posted - Jul 21 2008 : 12:13PM
Algaliarept, to link to a thread you grab the URL of the thread you want to link to from any of the links that say "link" (on every post in a thread.) Then when posting use the URL button under the post message box to help you create the link. I have no idea why you'd think you'd get deactivated over asking a question.
I had no idea! I started a new thread with this post a day after this one was started in the Star Crossed section and was was redirected to this one. The post reads: It's now becoming extremely difficult to find a video where either the guy cums on his own without beating his meat, or have the girl finish him off. You would think with all of these awesome looking women in the porn industry (some of which post on this site regularly) giving them A+ suck and fuck jobs, that they would have to use every ounce of willpower to not cum by accident. I just don't get it. Someone fill me in please! Evidently, this question gets asks often. My question now is how can we get this message out loud and clear to the industry movers and shakers to change this? Obviously they either don't realize that it's a major problem, or don't care as long as the required minutes are shot. I think most viewers would prefer seeing a hot scene finished with a cumshot without the guy servicing himself and lose some minutes because he may have cum a little before schedule. Oddly enough, to illustrate my point, I saw a scene just the other day where a female performer accidentally squirted all over the guy while in cowgirl. This was not a squirt video. The guy giggled and said, you squirted? They cleaned up and finished shooting the rest of the vid. That was cool! Spontaneity is what it's all about!
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Posted - Jul 22 2008 : 6:00PM
I think one of girls said best (I thought it was on this thread, but can't find it). There are so many stops in the action for things like stills, moving the camera for different shots, it almost forces the guy to just stand there jerking off for fairly long periods at I time. That anyone can pop much less keep wood is near metaphysical.
I could just be monumentally naive, but it appears that almost all of the time I see this happen is after the guy has had a pretty long stretch of sucking and/or fucking without any apparent edits. Lexington Steele is one that seems to not jerk himself off as much as others I've seen. Maybe that's one of the reasons he's won several AVN Awards. I'm also wondering if some of the male talent are taking something to keep themselves stiff because of the many stops that you mentioned which may contribute to them not being able to cum without doing it themselves.
No problem NT, its only my opinion anyway. Ok so single persons cant change the way porn is shot, the 'got to go' mentality or the working circumstances of this business single handedly. What we have to do though is try to adapt and evolve to fit the situations we face. I believe we as performers should have some pride in the profession, do the best we can and try to make sure that what we are directly involved in is true to what we would actually enjoy watching ourselves. On this subject the advantage for me was that I am a self confessed ex-premature ejaculator! Actually still to this day, I am sometimes so turned on that I wanna pop within five minutes of being on set! Especially with all these hot porn chicks! I am just now able to control myself and have enough pride in my performance that I wont let it all go down the drain as such! The money shot is the money shot after all, I do have to pay rent too! Lol! What I am saying though is that it is possible for actors to mentally prepared for the pop a couple of positions in advance and perhaps if they/we did it would be more spontaneous when the time comes. Also another added benefit is that when you've been redlining for an hour your eventual pop always seems to be more powerful and impressive! Girls should also be more aware of what is an important skill in their job too, not just take it as a chore to finish the day. Directors should know that the difference will directly influence the final product and be more in tune of what the viewers want to see. My 2cents... (well maybe 4cents) Keni KENI ON YOUTUBE
There also seems to be a bit of benign contempt for the viewer on the part of the directors. Like, fuck them this is the way to shoot porn you don't like find something else. Then there is the problem. They all shoot the same jerk to pop there is nothing else. Did they have a meeting?
I can only speak for myself, but since all the girls I shoot are brand new a lot of them don't give the best hand jobs. Some have been amazing but others just tug and pull and its a little hard to get into it. Also since Am big on the facial and tend to have a good size pop. Im always afraid that I will over shoot the girls face. And it has happened, so I like to have the girl get me really close but then I finish it off. Id love to have just the girls do it, but again with new girls you never know who is going to be really into the facial and who will try to cum dodge. Ill experiment with just the girl doing it, but I dont know how well it will work out. MD www.cumfacialamateurs.com
Okay in Porn guys and girls defense... if the pop shot is on the face...I want him to direct that hot fucking cum on my face, not in my eye.. they are more aware of how much cum is built up inside there. As well many of us still fuck to pop and they are holding the cum back to launch when the camera starts rolling again! Personally though I don't mind a facial at all, but if a guy gets to bend me over fuck me doggie and spray up my back and ass... Hot as FUCK!! Ps-Thanks for the loving on my anal sites!! =)
Yes Phoenix, thats what i would rather see than any facial, bend you over fuck you doggie and spray up your back and ass... Hot as FUCK!! P.S. You are so hot, dont stop!
Ok i just had a look through some pron and found the guy i was talkin bout earlier, his name is LT. I flicked through White Booty Worship and in every scene he pulls out of the girl and cums on them, and inside one of them! Damn thats a good movie!
Interesting interview with John Stagliano just posted here on this subject. John is theorizing that one of the reasons guys can't cum without jacking off is because they may be erect but just not aroused thanks to pecker drugs. I believe this to be true just by seeing the number of flushed/red faces/noses in the biz, usually associated with ED drugs. Interesting blurb coming from an insider, however.
Posted - Jul 20 2008 : 12:35AM
This is what I was referring to by "neech". Just a clarification.
