I think it's an American production thing too (with a few exceptions obviously). Just look at Marc Dorcel or Private videos (which I much prefer), and you'll have lots more scenes of girls stroking guys off to finish.
Yeah I've suspected that for a long time. I haven't used ED medication, but from what I've read, it causes an "unnatural erection" that is disconnected from the guy's psychological arousal, so it's easy for him to get/stay hard, but because his cock isn't connected to his brain (so to speak) he has more trouble actually reaching orgasm and shooting a proper load... and when he does, it's with extreme stroking effort by himself, and his cumshots are weak because he isn't "full boil" for the girl in front of him. You see this frequently now... the guy pounds away at the girl for 30 minutes, then has to stroke himself off, and when he finally cums, it's a dribble not an explosion of lust. This is why I consider the "hands free cumshot" to be the ultimate finish in porn... because it requires GENUINE arousal from the sex rather than ED drugs + masturbation.
I agree 100%. I've said in a number of other posts that scenes featuring genuine arousal as well as a personal connection between the participants are the best. I remember a scene with Ginger Lynn and Peter North where Ginger is riding him in a cowgirl configuration. The scene is hot, but it turns ultra-hot when Ginger lays forward onto him and starts slamming her hips down on him hard and fast. The scene ends with her pulling off of him at the last second and then grinding her pussy against his cock as he cums. The scene is awesome! No hands needed, just hot, real sex. There needs to be less production values and more real sex. If producers look at it that way, I believe they will fill a much needed market. Here is an idea for a series... Get two or three women who are really into sex. They don't need to be the typical "stars" that we have all seen before. Have them select some strangers who are not in the business and watch them jack the guys off. Considering the risks involved with strangers, hand jobs would be the most logical format, but I think that would make for some very hot action. After all, what normal guy would turn down a hand job from a hot girl and make a few bucks in the process? The same concept can work for women and girls too. There are few scenes hotter than watching one girl jack another girl off with her fingers. If it is real! "Fantasy Will Set You Free!"
i think alot of times the female DOES NOT want the dude(a complete scumbag stranger)to fuck her to completion.they would rather he stand over her face and masturbate thinking of god knows what,,,rather than his ass pounding her body while thinking of god knows what. i myself,LOVE penetration to facial cumbath scenes as much as anyone.but,believe it or not,,being the perv i am,,also love seeing a dude standing over a young starlet doing the nasty while she waits for him to finish.the whole time i wonder what they are thinking about as this man pulls his shit and sweats on her,vise-versa.it's just dirty. my problem is,they ALWAYS cut to just the last few seconds of this action.the scenes that work for me(and theres only a handfull dammit)is the scenes where it takes the scumbag several minutes to cum.just to be able to watch her expressions and knowing she wants it to be done sooner than later.i wonder how many of ya agree that it's great viewing once in a while??? to recap my original comment on the topic,,many of you seem angry and find fault with the dudes.remember,the chic might not want it.also,as much pussy as these guys get,it probably takes some SERIOUS pounding/friction action to work up to a cumshot.and i'm sure half the boof-targets out there don't want/can't handle the penetration to cum-blast.jerking off adds more friction/stimulation(we ALL know that)and is probably planned ahead of time most times. afterthought:maybe this i why i like the Bukakke scenes so much.it's just rude/nasty watching these most likely ex-cons,felons,scumbag porno addicted dudes lining up around a young thing to jerkoff on them and get paid for it ! :):):) Edited by - not ruff enuff 4 me on 8/18/2008 11:32:19 AM
I have never been a fan of that and maybe that is because when I first started watching porn the women always made the guy cum, that is one of the best things about 80's porn. Even in my personal life I rarely jack myself the girl I am with can usually make me cum with no problem.
I hear your point, there are indeed movies that portray this specific perversion, catering to the lurid tastes, and glee of raincoaters far and wide, but if you do infact enjoy that, then you'd clearly be able to distinguish the difference between the mundane jerk to pop content of a stunt cock, trying in vain to find a reason to orgasm, with the furious energy, and genuine interest expressed in the other. Theres been numerous reasons proposed why this unacceptable practice occurs, and yet only one adaquately justifies why its being allowed to continue despite overwhelming opposition. Money. If jerk to pops annoy you, don't buy, or even rent it. Check the cover pics, if you see any dude holding his dick for an oral pop, expect most, if not all cumshots within, to be exactly that. So prevalent in porn today, its usually the only reason I'll spend 20 minutes browsing a porn shop, and not find anything. Edited by - Endless loop on 8/19/2008 4:52:21 AM
Orthocyclen, I seem to recall the title being "Too Good To Be True", but I've done a few searches and have not been able to find it. The storyline is based on a farm boy who wins the lottery (North) and is suddenly in the midst of endless sexual adventures. As storylines go, it is pretty good. A few other hot scenes in the film include a BJ scene in the shower where he (North) unloads up the side of a hot girl's face and into her wet hair. The ending scene is another BJ scene with a hot brunette. I think he finishes himself off in that scene, but it is still very hot. It is an older production, possibly VCA, Essex or Vivid (back when they were good). Stacey Donovan was also in the movie. If you can find it, please let me know. I rented it years ago and would love to have a copy of my own. "Fantasy Will Set You Free!"
Well, no matter how many threads exist on this topic or how many explanations come around, I still despise watching a dude spank his own monkey if I am going to watch porn in the first place. Just get some young amateur guys and let them cum in three minutes. Who cares if the scene is short. I love the Bangbros scenes where the guys can't control themselves and cum early. For pete's sake they aren't filming the next hollywood blockbuster. It's a porn flick. At least cater to those few guys who don't want to see a guy service his own bishop at the end of every scene. I used to love the better resolution of the mainstream porn flicks, but now I go more for the lower quality amateur websites simply because it is more natural and you don't have to see the guy jerk off. Sammy4U and Chicasplace are two of my favorites. Pros are only trained to cum on command with their own hand. I don't care how hot the girl is if I have to watch a scene end like that. Porn is nothing more than a fantasy of imagining you are there banging the girl, but I sure as hell am not going to jerk myself so my fantasy is ruined. Edited by - john5527 on 4/25/2009 8:29:51 PM
My first thought is always, Geez, at least let the girl jack you off! Then this quote which prompted me to ask why can't these girls give a decent HJ? My guess is that young girls start off doing doing more,(fucking)younger and younger than did generations in the past. In earlier years girls would "hold out" longer and learn how to stroke a guy and how to keep him up and make him pop.
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Posted - Apr 26 2009 : 9:09AM
My first thought, as I mentioned elsewhere not too on ago is "Geeze.... Poor guy can't get off but by his own hand... what kinda fag (And I don't mean homosexual) is he." It's one of the reason I find 99% of porn not worth paying for, neither to own or rent.
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Posted - Apr 26 2009 : 9:27AM
One of the regular producers I shoot with employs a guy, where virtually every time we shoot it's the same thing. Everything stops while he jerks and pulls, wiggles and practically spins like a top to get off. He's a nice guy, good looking and I have no problem working with him, but when it comes to the money shot, we stop, we sit, we wait. I would agree that with all the stop-n-start activity of a shoot it's got to be hard to keep things together to get the guy's cum shot. Virtually all the people I know who are not part of the adult business and know what I do, all think that the producer just puts a camera in a room and the people then go at it for a half hour and nature just takes it's course. I don't know about any of the other ladies here, but I've yet to see things happen naturally on a shoot.
Virtually all the people I know who are not part of the adult business and know what I do, all think that the producer just puts a camera in a room and the people then go at it for a half hour and nature just takes it's course. I don't know about any of the other ladies here, but I've yet to see things happen naturally on a shoot.
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Producer justify their existence by intruding too much on the natural process. Shooting sex isn't difficult. Shooting porn is.
I can't wrap my mind around why I would even care if another man came let alone how he came. From my vantage point as a man if all the other dicks in the world fell off that would just mean more pussy for me. I like to see a woman cum. It's an interesting read none the less and it's back to girl/girl for me.
Not to get off the subject, but my personal pet peeve is when a guy does a creampie scene and he's ready to blow, he pulls out half of his dick and jerks the other half off...LOL it's fucking annoying. I came in my girl before and there is not a better feeling than that. Her pussy is jerking you off why use your hand! WTF!
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Posted - May 4 2009 : 2:30PM
Boy, do I agree with this thread! My special turn off is the unedited cumshot when the guy wanks for six minutes while the girl sits there dutifully with her mouth open. Dull proof that movies are made in the editing machine (or software).
1) Because the same detachment that enables him to perform on camera also prevents her pussy from finishing the job. 2) Because almost all the creampie series out there put so much emphasis on the visual of the cum leaving her pussy that they require him to cum just a fraction of an inch inside her -- if he shoots a small load deep inside her and little to none of it leaks out, they consider it a wasted scene.
From my experience, the older I get the harder it is to finish. And let me tell you, the Wife LOVES IT! *(I am not being filmed while having sex.)* I am at the patheticlly old age of 42 (almost dead) and the combination of daily allergy meds, and my jaded perspective of sex makes it much more difficult to finish. When I was in my 20's I had to think of baseball to hold it back. Then in certain positions I would just lose it every time. Now after a vasectomy, and my wife in her sexual prime, she cant get enough of it. I can pound as long as I/she wants. So I have now introduced her to cumming on her tits, and she goes wild. Or on her clit while she or I rub it. She loves that too. Introduce Viagra and I have gone 2 hours straight (little breaks here ad there) but then it is really work to finish. But the point is, the guys working in porn have trained there junk to obey there brain no the other way around like the rest of us. So we expect them to bang incredibly HOT women, who are pro's themselves and then like flicking a switch, tell them to lose control on demand. That is asking a lot. I can get kind of board watching 5 mins of wacking @ the end of a scene but there still is something perverted about the girl watching and encouraging the guy cum. A little edit here and there can make it look great. I think if the girl(s) in the scene can talk dirty about what that dick just did to her during the scene that can help speed things along abit as well. I still think porn is best when it all cums together naturally but I dont falt the guys when the director blows the whistle and needs to end the scene.
In answer to your question, I imagine it is because (like shown in many BTS clips) the directors pause to set up and block specifically for the cum shot, after which the men may have lost some of the momentum they had. Some movies exist such as the "Drive Thru" series which features sex scenes from start to finish with no cuts. The wanking is at a minimum there Tight Ass
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Posted - Aug 12 2008 : 8:49PM