If theres innocent looking girl, thats because her cface looks innocent, annd what do you want to do to her? Make it guilty, that is by jizzing up her face or dumpin' it down her throat.

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Even so most girls dont like the taste of sperm or hate it. I had one girlfriend that got really turned on when she jerked me off into her mouth. And even she said she wasnt wild on the taste, just the dirty act itself.

So dont be fooled! porn girls arent really loving the jizz thats being spewed over them its all pretend! This doesnt bother me though because porn is pure fantasy anyway. For instance when they look in ecxtacy when a 10 inch cock ploughs their ass....their expression says 'i love it in my ass' but what they are thinking is 'ow that hurts! wheres my paycheck!' And who can blame them?

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Also, it's not really a facial in my book until it really completely covers the face. I hate it when a guy just unloads a few drops on a girl's cheeks.

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However I never attempted that in private and wouldn't like to do so, because when you're involved in the intercourse, your perception of things is different; it's not only a graphic thing, you mostly feel the disgusting and soiling side of it.

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Add to that that the face for most viewers is the nicest and most expressive part of a girl. And that swallowing/drinking is quite a graphic stunt in itself.

Me, I would prefer a greater variety with cum-targets. But the girls face has top priority with me, too.

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Of course, viewers can indulge themselves because it's not "real". Like I said, facials are pretty innocuous (although I would never subject my wife to something like that unless she wanted to do it. I feel it shows a lack of respect) but, it's just the tip of the iceberg of this fetish of depravity.

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Oh the face is so much better than the belly.

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It's the new experience thing - when an unexperienced girl is first trying oral sex, what a great moment. It's erotic beyond belief. Then when she gets a little used to it, and the newness is worn off, she wants to go farther, try the ultimate part of a BJ, taste the cum. (Wishing to be back in high school.) Another factor is the female knowing she is doing something incredibly erotic by getting it in the mouth - she knows how much she is turning on the guy. (Of course, by ejac time, you've made the transition from erotic to physical, and it quickly loses its mental attraction. The moment of disinterest in sex begins with the orgasm, at least for me.)

So the perfect blowjob: the girl wants to milk your cum out, is erotically hungry for it. You are increasingly turned on by this. Then you start to cum, but stop before you climax, so you can still enjoy it. A small dollop of cum squeezes out and she laps it up. That makes you crazy! She is turned on, the taste is raunchy but makes her horny. NOW your orgasm is huge because you are both turned on. Only problem is, she's so cranked up, and you are finished, it's hard to keep her happy, she wants 'lingus, you can't do it unless you are really heated up, and you're limp so you can't give her the business.

Anyway, that's why I like a cock gobbler who keeps going right through the cumshot. Glazed eyes, shotglass swallow, not the ultimate for me. Although...still like a good snowball, and I've seen some interesting spoonful cum eating that was smokin'. Y'know, there's another thing - seeing how nasty these women can be is pretty hot. How about that one with a girl eating Gauge's anal creampie? Whooweee!

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For me, the vision of a woman's face glazed with cum, is one of the most erotic and stimulating aspects of pornography. For many of the reasons outlined in previous posts.

It can be viewed alternately as the ultimate act of submission or the ultimate act of love, by the woman. Either way works for me.

It can also speak to the base fantasy instinct in many men to somehow degrade, humiliate or otherwise get back at women for bad relationship experiences or treatment from women in our pasts. It's not violent or physically hurtful, so for many of us it fills the revenge bill that lies within all of us. While I don't consciously desire to hurt women, to deny that these feelings exist within my psyche would be to deny the truth.

And because women are so much prettier than men, and their faces are the most beautiful, worked on, and valued aspect of their bodies, to see a beautiful face disheveled and defiled by man seed is especially empowering to males. Wheter it is an equisitely made up starlet, or a fresh-scrubbed, fresh-faced, natural young beauty, the effect of a copious cum glazing is the same. A huge turn-on.

If the woman is a very willing and enthusiastic participant(hopefully), then it is the best of all worlds, which leads to the other reason why it is so much a part of porn...

Facials and to a lesser degree swallowing, along with anal sex, are the sex acts that most guys are likely to NOT get in their private sex lives. And most guys would be a little uncomfortable asking or pressuring their real female partners to partake in these acts. Hell, even in this enlightend, progressive, sexually permissive age, simple blowjobs are still a big step for a lot of women.

So guys want and demand these acts in their porn.

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BTW my lover looks particularly handsome with his face all wet and shiny with my cum.

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The question was posed as to why the act of a male cumming on a female's face was so prevalent in porn, and why it was so popular, so yes it's about porn. But the answers to a question like that are as varied as the colors in the rainbow, and are rooted in individual reasons and real life experiences.

And I would still argue that one of the real principles that drives the engine of today's hardcore porn, especially when considering the overwhelmingly male audience, is the idea of providing that which is not generally practiced in people's private sex lives. At least not to the degree it is practiced and provided in porn, where most guys want every girl to be an anal queen, do ass to mouths and take monstrous facials every day. Preferably from more than one guy at a time.

While making generalizations is always a risky proposition, especially when it comes to something as personal as sex, I just don't think that the kinds of things we see in porn, including this pre-occupation with facials and swallowing, are happening significantly out there in real life, which makes guys turn to porn to fill that need. I do not question your perspective or personal experiences, but despite your assurances that "lots of women in real life,...enjoy and actively seek out a facial", the rate at which bukakke, swallowing, "feeding frenzy", etc, type tapes and dvd's fly off the shelves, and the incessant demand for and discussion of facials in porn, suggest that there are far more women out there who are not as comfortable with these practices. And far more men who wish they were.

As for the humiliation\degradation aspect of facials, I will just say that understanding what motivates and turns on individuals is a complex thing. Especially where relationships are involved and especially in the never ending struggle for men and women to understand each other. Life is made up of lots of experiences, some negative, some positive, but all kept on file. And all contribute to the constantly evolving people we become. If that means some aspects of personality can be construed as negative, even in otherwise well adjusted people, that may be part of the price we pay as humans.

Better to have some guy see his fantasies, however depraved, acted out on dvd and videotape, get his rocks off and then go on about his life, than to see him loose in his community doing real damage to real people.

In the most extreme S&M relationships people, Usually women, oftentimes wind up damaged, hurt or dead. And for really messed up folks, willingness and choice gets lost along the way. If it ever was part of the equation.

BSD

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Personally, I find the facial totally erotic, not degrading at all. External pop shots are obvious for porn... The external shots 'prove' the sex act.
As someone said earlier, for women, beauty focuses on the face. It's the view, a lovely, smiling face plastered with man goo is a big visual turn on for me. Porn's a fantasy, and it's the thought of her deep desire to please that peaks it. (In real life we probably want her to swallow, but for the porn there isn't as much visualization in that).

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I have not the faintest interest in watching men ejaculate, no matter where it goes.

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Features spin (thin) fantasies about sleek vixens who live in expensive houses and drive flashy cars. The fantasy is at least as much about consumerism as it is about carnality. Gonzo has become some weird reflection wrestling; more akin to a circus than sex.

When the facial pop-shot is considered in these contexts, is it any wonder that it is either devoid of real meaning, or imbued with dark, ugly significance, but utter divorced from any human connection. The deliciously profane becomes perfunctory, and the viewer is desensited, or even worse – bored.

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If you capture that "profane deliciousness" (i.e. shot explicit cumshot, et al) you limit the outlets for your work. Limited outlets means limited potential for revenue. Limited potential for revenue mean limited resources for your work. Limited resources means limited quality. Yes, I know that people transcend limited resources to produce good work, but these are happy accidents, labors of love, or both. You can't build an industry on either.

The great flowering of porn now known as the Golden Age was a result of porn moving from the economic margins to the economic mainstream. With access to a general audience (and comensurate revenues) there was an economic insentive to try to rise to mainstream standards. If you could produce explicit work made more pallettable to a general audience you could reap the rewards of mainstream appeal.

In the eighties, the confluence of technology (the rise of video as a cheap production medium) and social conservatism pushed porn back into the margins. The percentage was no longer in producing better work; it was in producing more work. Porn budgets collapsed, along with pornographer's creative aspirations. (On another thread Tom Byron says during this period his rate dropped by more than 80%.)

Dispite claims to the contrary, porn has been increasingly marginalized ever since. Perhaps the most obvious evidence of this is performers' rates. In adjusted dollars porn performers are being paid less than ever, while being asked to perform increasingly demanding acts; talent "churn" is at an all-time high. Careers are measured in months, or even weeks. Even working at a $1000/day, seven days a week, a woman is hardly &quotfor life" after a six month stint in the industry.

Technology may yet enable a new "Golden Age". Directors like Mason and Guy Capo are trying to bring the spirit of guerilla filmmaking to the porn world. But I have my doubts. Guerilla filmmaking is highly dependent on the commitment of both cast and crew to a project in the absense of any real hope of a financial return &#8211and crew re-shooting a DP scene for free because the first take didn't work as planned (and the studio "throwing away the negative of the first take.) How likely does that sound?

More over, even if Mason or Capo could produce a potential break-out hit – a porn "Clerks" – how would anyone outside of the porn ghetto ever find out about it?

-T.C.

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The humiliation part, it might be true for some guys, but I don't think it's the main focus. It might be humiliating if the girl isn't so much into it, but if she's willing, it may have a power image for the male, but not as far as a degrading one.

Besides, as some said, it's a fantasy for many guys, and some might never get the chance to do it in real life, so to see it on screen is really nice. And yeah, it usually provides some sort of closure to a scene.

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For me it's as one poster said, a matter of viewing things you may not be able to do readily, or may not actually need to in your own sexual experiences. I love to watch doggy-style anals followed by big cum shots, but as far as personal experience conventional sex is great--I don't need to recreate the porn experience to have great sex. It's just that the conventional vaginal sex I might enjoy is not as exciting for me to watch. It's the kink I need to make the purely visual experience click, the same kink everyone looks for whatever the respective kink may be. For some people just watching porn is the kink; ultimately everyone who seeks out porn is looking for strange.

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Besides, if it's good, effective porn, and has done its job, I have "lost interest", if you know what I mean, by the time of the pop.

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EDIT: theres no need to get upset. It was all meant in a good spirit. However, in case anyone took the typical porn slang seriously and complained i edited the post.

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