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Big_Tits_Addict
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Posted - Jul 26 2022 : 9:51PM
If Blu-ray ever did make a comeback I have low expectations but would hope companies would actually learn how to make a competent disc.

Just because a dual layer Blu-ray disc can hold multiple hours of HD footage doesn't mean it should. Customers willing to pay more for a physical copy want a higher bitrate (non-adult movies & TV shows have better quality on Blu-ray vs streaming); the adult industry shouldn't intentionally underachieve a basic standard already established.

I was looking up old porn Blu-ray reviews and was surprised some were encoded at 720p (what!?) but unsurprisingly the vast majority didn't have lossless audio.

If companies stick to 4 or 5 scenes (around 2 or 3 hours total) like they already do for DVD, the bitrate should be good and there shouldn't be any compression issues. Get too greedy that more space = more content and they can't blame anyone but their own stupidity for not knowing how to utilize disc space properly and that picky customers won't purchase their Blu-rays that look and sound worse than bootleg quality (on that topic, DON'T USE BD-R! Use pressed discs!)

Assuming Combo Packs return both Blu-ray and DVD copies should have the same content so it wouldn't make sense to include an extra scene or 2 exclusive to the Blu-ray. If there's leftover space use it for HD BTS and other extras.

And for those who think lossy audio is fine (Dolby Digital) for Blu-ray; it shouldn't. Sound is underrated. Watch your favorite webscene muted and let me know if you think it's still as good vs when watched with the audio turned on. Lossless audio would enhance the scene. Nobody is demanding for 5.1/7.1 surround or a Dolby Atmos mix, but default LPCM stereo shouldn't be unreasonable...

Doubt many studios have thought too far ahead but the ones already shooting their scenes at 24 fps will have a much easier time than those shooting at 30 or 60 fps. The latter would either have to spend additional time and effort to convert the footage to 24 fps for the Blu-ray release or risk criticism for 1080 interlaced encodes instead of the objectively better looking 1080p.

Mind giving a source?

Unless very recent Lesbian MILFs is a Zero Tolerance title released back in March of this year.

If getting rid of "movies" then why keep them (with promotional coverart) on their website for upcoming stuff?

https://www.zerotolerancefilms.com/en/movies/sort/upcoming

If streaming only wouldn't the upcoming videos section alone suffice?

https://www.zerotolerancefilms.com/en/videos/sort/upcoming

Companies aren't releasing Blu-ray because it's still too expensive for most of them and probably lack of knowledge and resources for how to author a Blu-ray disc.

Taking Vinegar Syndrome out of the discussion (they themselves don't consider themselves a porn company or part of the industry) there hasn't been any modern content releases on Blu-ray to study sales numbers and customer interest so unsurprising an industry primarily run by old white men with outdated thinking are probably still thinking data from 10 years ago is still relevant.

Edited by - Big_Tits_Addict on 7/26/2022 9:54:06 PM

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Posted - Jul 26 2022 : 11:16PM
For Zero Tolerance? Sure. Mike Quasar.

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Big_Tits_Addict
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Posted - Jul 27 2022 : 12:47AM
Thanks but this was from last year so unless there were already some titles slated for 2022 half a year in advance it hasn't been immediate or maybe things changed?

Just Zero Tolerance specifically dropping DVD or also for associated labels like 3rd Degree and Diabolic?

Diabolic still is releasing new DVDs (originals not just compilations) so DVD doesn't appear to be abandoned completely.

Maybe TPTB cutting costs to focus on producing content and releasing it through 1 label only?


Also while rules can change over time IIRC for award shows there's a "requirement" that for non-web scene categories they need a DVD release. As long as there are studios & directors/producers who care about recognition, DVDs will probably continue to stick around for eligibility purposes. DVDs cost almost nothing to replicate so even the most frugal studio will still release them for certain reasons.

Edited by - Big_Tits_Addict on 7/27/2022 12:55:44 AM

Peter Mc
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Posted - Jul 27 2022 : 6:32AM
Physical media is rapidly disappearing altogether in favour of streaming and digital downloads. That applies to music and mainstream tv and movies, I think porn is ahead of the curve so will disappear more quickly.

I still like my physical disks for music and movies/tv but less and less are getting released and I'm convinced it will soon become quite a niche market like vinyl records are now.

In terms of porn, it's been years since I last bought a porn dvd and I used to buy them regularly. I'm not surprised it's being phased out and that they never bothered with Blu-ray or 4K UHD discs. It's just porn at the end of the day not some $200m Hollywood movie, most people won't pay extra for a slightly better picture on a porno, especially when most watch shitty quality pornhub videos on their phone anyway.

The only section of porn where image clarity is paramount and being pushed further than ever is VR where people want the image to be as close to real life as possible.

 
Big_Tits_Addict
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Posted - Jul 27 2022 : 1:59PM
For non-porn content there is always a possibility of physical media making a comeback.

Customers will eventually get tired of being price gouged for numerous services they don't all use equally.

Some might also get fed up with unnecessary edits and censorship for "controversial" or "offensive" material that isn't approved by a vocal minority who have way too much influence.

Watching content on discs as originally intended might be the only way to see something uncut and unedited.

Garbage new woke programming will also make people more curious to seek older content that isn't trying to lecture but just entertain.

Customers who have spent money on digital rentals will be upset as over time plenty of things they thought they owned forever were not theirs and are randomly deleted because licenses expire or TPTB decide to remove the content indefinitely. If you don't have an individual download you can freely transfer, digital purchases that are streaming only objectively are a waste of money.

Internet costs might get more expensive while there's countless DVDs and Blu-rays that can be bought brand new for bargain bin prices.

Edited by - Big_Tits_Addict on 7/27/2022 2:02:33 PM

snufish
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Posted - Jul 29 2022 : 6:40PM
those wouldn't be the market
the market would be for those who spent their money to purchase the best in audiovisual content. A blu-ray player/uhdtv is cheaper than a new iPhone.
most aren't techies, shooting in 24fps for gonzo all sex video is ridiculous esp since the gonzo DVDs of yesteryear were shot in 60i video. But as I said previously, all those companies are dead, these internet guys shoot in 24/30 for no logical reason other than preference. As for BD, only 720p would allow 60fps. If people can watch 480i DVD then they can watch 720p Blu-ray.
current customers are okay with 8Mbps bitrate for 1080p download, they'll be fine with 13Mbps for 9 hours of porn. They'll also be okay with 5Mbps for 22 hours since they're coming from DVD.
9 hours for $20? wow
22 hours for $15? wow
especially for OOP titles.
they're already selling 4hr DVDs for $30.
if they're anal about high bitrate, issue 4K blu-ray with 80Mbps on it.

Be well

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