Why the East European actresses have less problems with dps, daps, fisting et cetera as American or west-European? Above all the young ones. There is not hardly anybody this praktiken makes. Is it only the money or are they assessed really so or both? Or are they simply courageous as your colleagues?
I think it's mainly about the money, those jobs are well paid and for those young Russian girls it's definitely a chance to get a really nice paycheck.
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Posted - Feb 5 2011 : 4:35AM
Do you also need someone to explain why DeBeers has to pay the people in their home office in London more than the men who work in the mines in Africa?
As far as I know very few Russian teens have plans for long term porn careers. They enter porn to make extra cash, they shoot a dozen scenes and disappear (move on with their lives, continue with colleges, etc). There is no strategic advantage for them to hold out on anal, etc. They just try shoot as many scenes as they can. And yes, they are paid more for anal, but generally much less than American counterparts. Edited by - Zoid on 2/5/2011 11:07:13 AM
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Posted - Feb 5 2011 : 5:42PM
That's how the Russians spell it. Google, and ye shall see. 'Russian Mafiya' and 'Red Mafiya' will get hits.Agreed. If they went quasi-legit, and took the kidnapping and illicit drugs out of the equation, they could rack up considerable profits, and keep a lower profile by hiding in -- more or less - plain sight. "Now you can have passionate, romantic evening with Yulia, or Svetlana, or Natassia -- stars of adult films -- for a reasonable price." Edited by - GODFATHER on 2/5/2011 5:47:40 PM
The Godfather is on top of the situation. Russian gangsters need to step up their game and maximize their long-term profits. The natural resources of Russian porn are just begging to be more profitably exploited. Beautiful young women from an impoverished country. So far, the Russian gangsters are exploiting this resource in a short-sighted manner. If they learn a few tricks from American porn purveyors they could triple their profits.
I'm from Russia and spoke with girls about it. They are very nasty, most of them like to perform DP, DAP, fisting, etc. Not only because of money, they really like what they do, they like to please their fans.
Not to quibble, but it looks like it's 'Russkaya Mafiya.' But in English, it would just be 'Russian Mafia.' And the Russians themselves seem to prefer 'Bratva,' as in 'brotherhood.' But back on topic, the European girls generally seem to up for anal, DP, IR, &c. more readily than American performers. And not just the Russians or other former Warsaw Pact nationalities; but British, French, German, and other Western European performers often do it all throughout their careers, e.g. Alicia Rhodes, Tiffany Hopkins, Denise K., and Katja Kassin, among others.
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Posted - Feb 8 2011 : 12:40AM
I think that anybody who cares deeply about this, will find that it all started when the wall came down.
The money might be why they are ok with performing these acts but what about the ease of which alot of the eastern europeans girls can do them?They on the 'whole' gape more too. Maybe some genetical thing with women from that part of the world cos two of the best american gapers what come to mind who seem to have a real enjoyment of hard anal are Bobbi Starr and Aline both of which have some sort of eastern european backround.
^ Ease of gaping could definitely have something to do with the person not being a tightass. Americans have been tightasses for so long it just comes naturally. Edited by - randomprecision on 2/8/2011 7:33:38 PM
If so they'd be kinky off camera as well. Somehow I doubt many girls will ask you to fist their butt on the first date. [:P)] Edited by - Zoid on 2/9/2011 9:31:57 AM
It might be something as simple as the people who are in charge of doing Russian porn have a different set of standards for their porn girls. They perhaps make it known that anals, DPs and such are expected and if a girl can't/won't do those things they're mostly turned away. In the US some porn makers will accept girls who only do other girls or only do scenes with their boyfriends or only do "softer" porn stuff. In Russia it's probably know that if a girl has such restrictions there's no need to even try to get into the porn biz. Some girls in US porn do as much as they feel they have to do. The reason someone like Jesse Jane for example, doesn't do anal or DPs or whatever is mostly because she doesn't have to. She's probably more than capable but there's no need for her to. US porn has many little genres where the expectations are different. A contract girl can easily have a successful career without doing anal at all or be expected to. A really hot girl can have a solid career only doing girl/girl scenes. A fetish girl doesn't even have to have sex. In Russia there doesn't seem all those options for the girls (or at least they aren't as popular here) so for them most of their porn is the wilder/harder type which requires anal, DPs, etc...So there's no place for a girl with restrictions on what they'll do. Just guessing...
^I think European girls in general are more open to anal and by default DP's. I have watched a lot of European made porn from the 70's to today and anal is a regular sex act in many of these movies. It's less common for a European performer not to have done anal then the other way. I've seen quite afew models that were on Met-Art go the hardcore route so I can't imagine that they didn't have other venues then anal. I think these girls realise that the bigger money is in hardcore porn so they have no problem with anal and DP's.
That's probably true. But keep in mind that there are plenty of pornstars in the US who claim they do anal and other things in their personal lives that they don't do on film. It goes back to what I was saying about US pornstars not doing things they don't have to. Some have personal rules about not doing certain things on film for whatever reason, some are holding those things back for a big payday to do them, some just don't like the thought of doing those things, and some are "pacing" their careers. Those options might not exist in Russian porn so the girls hit the ground running full on. I'm thinking it's more about the industry in the US moreso than the girls themselves. Perhaps the reason Jesse Jane isn't as hard as Bobbi Starr is because she can make it just fine without having to. Perhaps if she had to step up to the plate she could do just as much and be just as hard (just an example don't read anything into that). But the US porn industry allows her to be successful without doing it.
^My rule of thumb on performers that claim they love to do anal in their personal life but don't do it on film is either because they only do it with their boyfriend/husband or they are full of S..t. If it's the first than that's great. They reserve this sex act for the man in their life but don't mention it all the time and say that you are thinking about doing it. I read a recent post on Lexi Belle's twitter account and I guess someone had asked her about the anal thing and this wa her reply: Nothing against my girls who do anal) it's getting annoying to be asked constantly when I'll be doing anal. The answer for 2-11-11 is no. That's what I prefer from a non anal performer. Just be Honest. I agree that American peformers have slightly more opportunities to make money by doing standard B/G or G/G shoots but sooner or later those dry up. The only thing that North American performers have over most of thei European couterparts are the strip club tours. I suspect that many girls can make a killing if they are popular.
Are you quite sure about that? I seem to remember learning in school that the part of the country west of the Ural Mountains was considered part of Europe. And Russia's sports teams compete in European confederations/zones/associations.
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Posted - Feb 22 2011 : 4:07AM
It's complicated, but pretty much all the great Russian writers deal with the question of whether or not Russia is European or not. There's a big anti-European tradition within Russia, often associated with their religion and ultra-nationalism.
I would go so far as to say many American stars have managers who hold them back from doing this. Wheras this isnt the case in Europe. Stars are generally not tied into a studio and have a guy taking a cut and negotiating on a girls behalf
yep, this month been awesome for euro girls in dp. the most recent dpfanatics updates with Bibi Noel & Ivana Sugar and DP Darlings DVD, did try and do a review for that twice but keep getting side tracked stroking to it lol in the hot young girls getting dp'd category, no american site/company can compete with the kind of quality porn mentioned above
Do any of them escort? I would bet that they do. Is there an agency in Moscow or elsewhere that features these girls? Most of the Hungarian escort with porn pedigree have been shut down.
Maybe Russian girls are not as uptight about sex s Anerican girls are.Remember Europeans in general are more open about sex.Having said that,has anyone else seen this new russian girl name Jessy Brown.I've seen her in a gangbang with 3 black guys for Devil films and she has some dildos shove up her ass in somw lesbos things too.Another girl who does anal and D.P's is Sasha Rose. Edited by - jizzyjay on 2/22/2011 6:59:38 PM
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