Ok, sex is sex but there is a rather large difference between girls sucking dick or getting fucked by one or even two guys, and having multiple strangers unload in their face and swallow all the cum to top it off.
Alot of the girls who participate in these bukkakes seem to genuinely love swallowing copious amounts of sperm. Most of the time, the men don't look great, either. What I can't understand is this: surely with their looks they can find a more palatable job in the porn industry, if indeed that's what they want to do with their lives. Why choose GGG?
Not that I'm personally complaining. Aesthetically, it's great to watch but I find it amazing that so many girls throughout GGG's history have signed up for it. I know there was a time a few years ago when the German economy really was in dire straits but was it really that bad that many girls may have resorted to this?
Also, do they have set contracts where they have to work for at least 12 months, for example, once they start?
Just yesterday I was watching one of their dvd´s at a store , because the cover showed some DP on it . Well , there were two women getting dp´ed , but it was not really satisfactory to watch ( Camera work etc... ) .
In fact for me their stuff is much too extreme , there is too much cum and the way it´s treated looks more like piss than something else . I like more the kind of movies , where a girl is licking the cum sensually ( not aggressively ) of 3-4 men ( not more ) .
Speaking of that , I don´t like either the extreme way the girls get their cum in the " No cum dodging allowed " series , too extreme for my taste , but otherwise there is so much well-captured dp and gangbang in it , that almost every volume is a must-see .
Edited by - airtight_fanatic on 4/25/2007 7:12:56 AM
Oh, yeah, I don't deny that SOME think it's fun or looks fun but I don't think that's the view of the majority.
I personally think they most likely need money quick to pay for rent and/or mortgage payments, among other financial obligations. But I think once they agree to do a scene, it's not just limited to one scene. I think their contracts are 12 months minimum before they can actually quit. I doubt that JT would simply allow them to 'sample' what he's offering without them giving him some long-term assurance that they will stay for a particular duration.
Well, Annette Schwarz, a GGG veteran who may be the current record holder in terms of number of GGG / JT / 666 shots she's participated in, could probably answer that one. And she posted on this forum very recently, so maybe she will ( nickname 'Circuspferdchen')
My own impression is that money is probably the main motive for participating the first time, after that experience most disappear after a short while.
The ones that remain and do a lot of shoots (e.g. Betty, Kathy, Annette, Cissy) really do seem to like it, and it doesn't hurt that they're making money at the same time.
I think its definatly not that they wanna be famous in Germany u cant get famous through porn like in America for example Jenna Jameson or somebody. The most of girls in Germany specially at GGG do it cause u get the money by the way if u will offer the amount of money they pay for one scene in the US to a porn chick they even wouldnt do Bikini Pictures for this money. So u really cant get rich of it. Most of the girls dissapear after one shooting. So they have problems and need fast some money. Girls who are staying a long time dont do it for the money in the main reason, i would think they do it cause its a phantasie of them what they cant get in private Life. Magdalena for example is probably the biggest Sex Nympho i ever met, i did it mor because of the amounts of cum and the bunch of guys which are watching u. Cissie loves Attention.
Thanks for your response, Annette. I was watching an older GGG title yesterday, actually. It was called "Geile Girls" and it's a few years old now but it has a really cute brunette that I haven't seen in any other titles. I suppose she was one of those that just disappeared after a short time. But you could tell that she didn't like all the cum in her face and mouth but she seemed to enjoy the sex i.e. blowjobs and vaginal sex.
Magdalena rings a bell but I can't remember just at the moment which one she is. What films has she starred in? I think Sandra is brilliant (don't know if she's still doing films) and there's another Sandra I like but she looks abit older. Actually, I think she starred in a film alongside yourself called "Schluck du Schlampe!" There's one guy who came over her face and it must have been the biggest single cumshot I've ever seen! He literally must have exploded about 13 times lol. BTW, is John Thompson the director's real name or is it just a screen name? If it is, why is it that he chose to call himself by that name? Is he originally English or American?
Well, not according to Annette, Ramsey. Sure, I have no doubt it's a great seller but it seems as if the girls who do it get far less than their American counterparts......Which leads me to think it's just a quick money-grabbing job, rather than a career move. There are a few girls who stay on and do seem to enjoy it but I think they are in the small minority. But again, I don't think this would bother JT. The more fresh faces he can get, the more he can keep his fans interested.
Most are doing it for the money. Economy is bad in Germany, and GGG is based in Munich, where the rents and cost of living are very high. JT is paying that well, from what I have heard, but he has a high output, so thats the choice for most of the women.
I am not a fan of the looks of the most GGG girls. JT has a special favourite look, that is exactly the opposite of mine. But tastes are different.
Yeah, just as I thought, caroline. They probably have to keep up the payments on their rent and have to find a job quickly which pays reasonably well. As you said, Munich is a very expensive part of Germany and so living costs are extremely high. Also, the German economy has been quite bad for a few years now and I suppose alot of girls see this sort of thing as a last resort.
Personally, I really like the looks of GGG girls. I think they have more of that 'girl next door' look, compared to American porn models, who look more like movie stars. Many don't have as much make-up and I think that can be a positive thing.
I meant, JT isnt paying THAT well, but its the only big company in Munich. Munich is not only the capital of the very conservative Bavaria, but also a sort of liberal isle in the catholic south. JT is the only choice there, if you want to play in porn ( or have to ).
And I think thats the great difference to Amsterdam, for first castings or first movies, companys paid very, very bad. My girlfriend Nicole, who started playing in porn in the late 80s, was traveling from Rotterdam to Amsterdam to the studio, and her first fee wasnt even covering the transport ticket. But she was hot to play, she wasnt very interested in the money. Only after the third or fourth shooting, dutch companys pay more and then much better then german companys. I think they wanted to prevent, that girls/women were in it for the money only and wanted good performance acts.
I just stumbled upon a couple of JT GGG clips yesterday on yahoo and enjoyed them. I searched online to try to find a site that sells JT's DVDs. So far, I've only found sites where you can download scenes.
Anyone know of a site I can go to and buy these DVDs?
GGG is paying extremely bad. The money really can't be the driving factor.
I started my career in Germany and I still work there from time to time. There is a lot of low budget productions in Germany but I doubt that anybody pays less than JT.
So how does he get away with paying so little, and apparently being so unconcerned with health issues -- are girls in Germany just super horny and thirsty for cum and piss all the time? Is it because big bananas were scarce in the East and after the wall fell, they are overcompensating to satiate the pleasure denied for so long?
Personally I think is doing great stuff ! At least when it first came out it was a kind of new and fresh in all the stuff you can today's find in the porn market ! It's the only stuff I can watch without pushing every second the forward button on my remote control ! :-)
I think that's true. No doubt compared to Evil Empire, for example, the pay is bad. But I'm sure from the German girls' point of view, it's not half bad. The American economy is in a far better position, after all.
NO!!! It is not the German economy in general. It is the porn business in Germany and especially GGG. A new, average girl in Czech Republic or Hungary gets paid about 500 Dollar for a regular scene with one guy and no anal. That is the equivalent of a full time monthly payment of a skilled worker in a factory in these countries. And girls with a name who do anal can get much more.
I heard from several girls who worked for GGG that they got paid 150 Euro for a scene with 50 guys. And the cost of living in Germany is much higher.
The whole thing started as a scam. They advertised in newspapers "become a porn star". Mainly guys reacted who than got invited for a casting and had to pay a casting fee. He had tons of paying guys and one, two or three girls. A huge profit before anything ever got released.
I remember talking to Annette Schwarz (CircusPferdchen) who told me she had a great time there. I'm happy for her but I doubt that she would go back.
Whatever works is OK. GGG movies made a lot of people happy. I never met JT, but I think he must be an amazing character to get away with this shit.
I just don't like when people gets exploited.
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Go ahead. Maybe you can get a job there. Just make sure you have some cash on you.
Go ahead. Maybe you can get a job there. Just make sure you have some cash on you.
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Life is about choices ! If there is some naive morons stupid enough to get involved in GGG prods and pay for it, it's their own problem ! It's not a reason enough for me to not appreciate GGG style ! After all we are doing the same in Hungary... Using Hungarian girls the which for economical reasons get involved in porn ! As you mentioned the average monthly salary here still very low... The cost of life is increasing every single day !
Steve Holmes wrote:The thing is, everyone gets exploited. There are just different levels of exploitation. Now, if it's true that a GGG girl gets 150 Euros for a scene with 50 guys (or even 10 guys) why does she agree to it? She surely knows what she's in for if she goes ahead with it. She could get more by working as a secretary somewhere, if her concern is money.
I would personally like to meet one of these girls and ask them why they became GGG girls (it sounds like money can't be the motivating factor) But surely neither can having multiple men unload their sperm in her mouth and having to swallow the lot afterwards. If JT is successful, it's only because these girls answer his call, time and time again.
I think JT's style is very original and I just love the way how in some of his movies, he includes "props" like plates, jugs, cups, salads with cum, etc. The other day, I saw a clip of one of his titles where one girl has a tube in her mouth and another girl is sucking cum directly from the girl's mouth.
Wow, I just visited her website! Is it just me or has Annette's body become fuller over the last couple of years? Love that ass, Annette! ;-)
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Posted - May 1 2007 : 5:27AM
Its such a shame that John Thompson wasted his entire life on making GGG only for heterosexual fans...why didnt he try harder to make lesbian watersports videos also?? Annette Schwartz would of enjoyed having 100 hot european women squirt their piss into a giant funnel , she ends up drinking it all down while shes getting pissed on by other hot european/german / brazilian women.....
GGG is a real travesty, Its bad enough that American porn is mostly made for the straight fans of guy-girl action..what about lesbian fans?? Wheres the equality in that ?? I thought German porn directors and producers had more liberty to show lesbians drinking urine and strap-on fucking each other like crazy.....My biggest problem is with the lack of any interest in lesbian porno over that John Thompson failed to make ....I hope someday Annette Schwartz will read my forum and perhaps start her own adult porn studio, keep it over in Europe or Germany where pissing fetish isnt under any media control by the government, unlike the same one the American porn studios have to deal with....
So once again, Annette ...if your reading this...please start your own adult studio, hire a bunch of the hottest women over there in Europe and make exclusive girl on girl lesbian porn..have them all dress up like strippers, have them all talk dirty and spit all over each other and slap, fist, suck pussy, strap-on fuck and of course pussy squirt all over each other...Annette Schwartz should be " the new Belldonna of Europe" . Thank you
Not a bad idea. However, I'm not a massive fan of lesbian action. Sure, it's great to see plenty of female asses and tits in one place but I find lesbian action more limited. There's nothing like a good bukkake where the girl gets plastered with male sperm. I'm a big fan of the blowjob pov, too.
But you are right. Live is about choices! I made my personal choice that I don't respect people who exploit others so drastically. And I don't support them by buying their product.
Sorry, Steve, I'm confused. You said that from the little you saw, you liked GGG and then go on to say that you don't support them by buying their product. Did you mean that from the little of GGG that you saw that you DIDN'T like it?
It is exactly like I said: The material looks good! But knowing the background about the exploitation of the male and female performers I don't support it.
In what way do you think the male performers are exploited to such a large degree? They are the ones who are getting to 'sample' all the girls, after all.....I wouldn't mind being exploited like that Btw, where does JT find the male performers because when the phone number comes up during a movie, it's meant for the women, not the men. Does he just pick them out from the street at random?
I lived in Germany for a few years. If you are living in Bavaria and want to play in porn, then there really arent so many companys. Most german companys pay bad, only if you are better known, you can get more money. JT is a terrible macho, I have read some interviews and you only have to hear his comments in the movie. But he is demanding an actual HIV test from all of the men ( and women ). Even if I know that this is not 100% secure, because there is no 100% security in this, it is more, than some low budget productions do.
Apart from Magma, who now does very little golden shower videos, there are no porn companys who dare this. Because most of them export into Switzerland ( forbidden ) or USA. So I was very astonished to hear, that you can rent his movies in the USA also. Dutch companys had many troubles with golden shower scenes in the 90s.
I hate this JT stuff, and because the state authorities seizured 3 of his SEXBOX DVDs in Germany, politicians argue for more stricter porn laws now. I think this was really dumb. But he isnt the smartest guy.
Annette and Lyn are great, and 2 or 3 other women, but most of them dislike what they do. I only have to look at some scenes for a minute. But some men are enjoing this stuff. Sad, but true.
You mean the exploitation of the male because they have to pay for it instead of getting paid? Maybe that's how it works in porn but here's something I don't understand. When I visit a prostitute I have to pay her for sex so why should porn be any different? The guys are going to sets to have sex so they should pay and I think the cut for the guys should go to the girls 100%.
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Posted - May 2 2007 : 12:32PM
Why wouldn't some girls do the GGG / 666 style movies? Some people probably think it is fun, or looks like fun.
How about the fact that GGG is a German company and the casts in their vids are German?
German culture has always catered to sexual extremes. We Amis (as our German friends call us) have only seen the tip of the iceberg when it comes to German sexuality. Before Hitler's rise to power, German entertainment celebrated S&M right out in public. (Hitler was a major league pervert.) I'm not an expert but boy it was wild in Berlin between the wars.
Someone tell Katja Kassin about this thread. She'd know a lot more than me.
I lived in Germany most of my live and I started the business there. Most shoots involve traveling. JT also not just works with local girls. They come from different German cities as well as from Czech Republic.I never heard of any production which doesn't require a test. In fact it is the performers who ask for the tests.I don't think there is a law against watersports in the USA. In my latest movie you see all the girls peeing. see trailer Some distributors just shy away from potential trouble and you sell less.Fortunately I had sex with a lot of porn girls off camera and neither of us charged anybody. But if it gets filmed and there is money made I want my fair share.
But that's not the point anyways. I know another company in Berlin who shoots gangbangs and pay little for the girls and nothing for the men. But they don't cheat. They don't tell them it's a casting and when you perform well we make you rich and famous.
I remember Annette saying she didn't feel comfortable with the health precautions on the JT sets. I guess mostly what I don't like is how cheap the productions look, the awful music, the terrible editing, and the way the camera jerks around ... When you look at a well-shot and staged scene with a similar theme - like Steve and Annette and the mopes in "Sperm Load ..." it;s amazing ... everything is well lit, Annette is having a blast and so are the guys (so jealous) ... the only thing I can say about GGG is all the ineptitude does make it more CREEPY, which is a turn-on for me. It's like the girls have been dragged down to a basement by white slave traders or something ...
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Posted - May 3 2007 : 12:24AM
Annette Schwartz is the kind of girl who doesnt care about her porn career anymore..she will stand around and let dogs piss on her all day , if she was paid the right amount of money....so with that said, why not have Annette Schwartz do an all-girl lesbian piss drinking video series? She obviously has no health concerns when she volunteered for John Thompson productions...so why bother worrying about it now? Just do hot wet lesbian piss drinking, strap-on fucking videos for now and forever :)
If you people really cared about welfare, you would beg her to stop being a porn prostitute...but instead, we're all happy stroking our dicks watching her getting cummed on and eating pussy all damm day :) so? why not make it better?? GGG NEEDS to bring back lesbian pissing in all their movies...
many germans arent in extreme sex, its only a very low minority. I was in Germany for 4 years, and these were the four most depressing years in my sex life. It wasnt only difficult to find a male partner, but much more difficult to find a female partner. So I am astonished that so many - relative - women are performing in porn in Germany, but the sex life was very boring here. Now I am happy with the dutch ( and asian ) girls and women I have met in Amsterdam. But porn isnt reality or is reflecting reality. ( But it can be...) I never found or met - and I am very open minded and not shy - a woman into golden showers here. Most dont even wanted to TALK about it. So dont believe, that german women are verry heavy into golden shower games. These movies are rented, because men are frustrated that the women arent into this. Apart from a few exceptions.
Caroline, do you know why girls would sign up to a series like "Sex Box?" I mean, GGG and 666 is extreme enough but what would be the appeal of SB for girls? It's not like they've only produced a few of them. It seems as if they've produced over 30 movies already and the series hasn't been out that long.....Is the money much better or something?
They produced over 15 SexBox or ? I only have seen 2 and will never watch anyone. They have confiscated three volumes in Germany, because of violence. ( Extreme violence is forbidden in porn in Germany ). But why only these three ?
The first were filmed in Austria, told me a video clerk. The capital Vienna has a big SM scene and many sex shops carrying many of these titles.
Why are they doing it ? Money, I think they earn more at 666 and even more at Sexbox, than playing in GGG/JT. Some even have these masochistic drive.
Sexbox is extreme, but 666... The women degrading language and the primitive way, in which sex is depicted. But I wouldnt say, that gangbangs with golden shower are extreme. I enjoy golden shower games too, and years ago, I was enjoying gangbangs too. And nobody paid me a cent for that. But even if I had the abilities to perform in porn ( I havent ) I would never play in a JT movie or in a german porn movie.
