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ControlFreak
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12/09
Posted - Jul 19 2011 : 10:11PM
Anybody out there have any insight into why many new seemingly enthusiastic starlets hang around for 6 months to 2 years and then disappear forever? What are the common scenarios? A new boyfriend who isn't down? Guilt? Family problems? Celestial visitation by winged angels shaking their fingers "no"?
It almost seems as though some girls take a McDonald's approach..."naw...I don't want to work here anymore, I think I'll find another job." All of a sudden the cutest girl at the drivethru is gone!! But no it's realer. It's not like the turnover at strip clubs, those girls can disappear on you by just dancing at a different club and you never see them again. Porn stars evaporate.
EthanConner
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319 Posts
11/07
Posted - Jul 19 2011 : 10:31PM
a lot of them "retire" from porn because they get a boyfriend and then "don't do it because they have a boyfried." It doesn't make sense though. I mean, you already did it, it's on video, and he'd eventually see it anyways.
sometimes the guy even knows before hand!
And if he knew she was a pornstar BEFORE he asked her out, then what's the big deal? He'd already knew she was a pornstar, so why get her to retire, when if the guy wouldn't have even known about her if she wasn't doing porn?
Peoples Temple
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People tell lies my friend. Some people like publicity. I don't like publicity.
674 Posts
5/11
Posted - Jul 19 2011 : 10:49PM
Probably because someone calls them vile words at some point after finding out, using their past as a weapon of shame and they get disgusted with the whole thing. There is nothing wrong with the actual sex, it is the sex caught on camera and is distributed that becomes a problem down the road.
crazy8ight
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You Gotta Go There To Come Back
114 Posts
7/11
Posted - Jul 20 2011 : 12:43AM
i hope i'm on topic.. but one of my favs was kaylynn then she left only to "re-appear" for a Seasoned Players where she stated she was back but then gone again. curious as to what happened to that
Rod
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908 Posts
8/10
Posted - Jul 20 2011 : 9:49AM
There isn't that much work right now. It isn't free, they have to pay to get tested every month. The work is not that easy. It does have risks. Relationships change and they no longer get the support they had before. Been there, done that, off to something new. The fantasy just didn't match reality.
I think there's a perception that it's an ideal job.....getting paid for fucking.....just not true.
 
cross
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1072 Posts
6/05
Posted - Jul 20 2011 : 10:06PM
They disappear for that exact reason, they want to disappear. It's as if they're acknowledging they've made a 'mistake' and porn "isn't for them'. They're families find out, the meet a guy, they start to question themselves etc...
This business isn't for everyone and I think that there are a hell of a lot of girls who think it's a good idea at the time and then after a while the want out fast. They could be all gun-ho about it at the beginning and all it takes is one little thing, a sleezy fan at a convention, an asshole director, producer co-star anything and they'll pack their bags as quick as the unpacked them to start with
Aplus
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5/05
Posted - Jul 20 2011 : 11:29PM
I don't know, but I'm starting to think that isn't as true as it seems. When a lot of the pornstars return, they rarely give the impression that they were trying to disappear on the earth. A good percentage seem to simply settle into their new life and don't get noticed or exposed often. I think the world is a much bigger place than we think it is.
ControlFreak
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At the end of the day, it is what it is.
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12/09
Posted - Jul 21 2011 : 7:57PM
I like all the well thought out responses.
I wonder if there is anything the industry could do to expand its pool of potential career girls (and by that I mean 5+ year girls). That might not be relevant at present because of the economy, but when and if it turns around, I wonder... I know that as time goes on, and especially since the birth of the internet, a higher and higher percentage of girls are growing up actually seeing porn. In fact, the young starlets now were born in the early 90's, some of them may have seen internet porn at 8 or 9. I think when the 00's girls start rolling up to the porn industry in 2018 there might be a boom of girls wanting to try it. Of course, this might just result in just having more numerous fly-by-night starlets because the industry isn't living up to the fantasy.
Seijuro
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1389 Posts
12/09
Posted - Jul 21 2011 : 8:26PM
These are a few reasons off the top of my head:
1.Shooting opportunities drying up.
2.Don't want to do too many movies because it might pose a problem in the future.
3.Probably highest paying job with no need for high school or college diploma.
4.Family or boyfriend relationship complications.
5.Burn out
Fergus
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276 Posts
12/06
Posted - Jul 22 2011 : 11:33AM
There was an article by UK novelist Martin Amis about ten years ago where he interviewed some director ... I'll try to find it. Here's the URL: http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2001/mar/17/society.martinamis1
The bit quoting the director I was thinking of: "Some girls are used in nine months or a year. An 18-year-old, sweet young thing, signs with an agency, makes five films in her first week. Five directors, five actors, five times five: she gets phone calls. A hundred movies in four months. She's not a fresh face any more. Her price slips and she stops getting phone calls. Then it's, 'Okay, will you do anal? Will you do gangbangs?' Then they're used up. They can't even get a phone call. The market forces of this industry use them up."
I expect things aren't very different now. Supposedly there's less work now. When I read articles like that I realise how little porn I am aware of compared to how much is produced. Almost everything I buy is from a major studio and I buy it for one or two or maybe three stars who are familiar to me and have a career of a at least a few years. I'm really only aware of those twenty or thirty favourites.
But there are apparently hundreds (perhaps thousands) of girls every year or two who show up, make only a few scenes or maybe last for 50-100 in very quick succession, then disappear again without ever crossing my radar. Smaller studios, cheaper productions etc, maybe.
ControlFreak
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12/09
Posted - Jul 22 2011 : 6:39PM
^^^^^
hmmm this sounds spot on....
I suppose the more porn stars there are, the shorter the average career length is going to be. It stands to reason. Back in the classic days, there were comparatively only a handful of starlets. So therefore there wasn't as much premium on a fresh face. The more faces there are, the less dependent the audience is on each individual girl. Of course, MILFdom and cougardom somewhat mitigate this effect, but it looks like longevity is going to permanently suffer.

Edited by - ControlFreak on 7/22/2011 6:41:50 PM

ControlFreak
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At the end of the day, it is what it is.
629 Posts
12/09
Posted - Jul 22 2011 : 6:49PM
But I still don't understand why all these ex-newbie teenies haven't taken over all the strip clubs with feature dancing. There's a lot of money to be made there. In a heartbeat, I would go see Cindy Loo and make it rain like a monsoon. In fact, some have said that porn is nothing but a commercial for a girl's soon-to-be feature dancing career. Well, where are they???

Edited by - ControlFreak on 7/22/2011 6:51:55 PM

equippedblk
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7/11
Posted - Jul 22 2011 : 7:36PM
I agree with what everyone else has said. I was watching the original "Deep Throat" a few weeks back and there was an interview with one of the pioneering male actors of the time. He commented that Linda Lovelace became very bitter when she realized that the industry that she helped build had left her behind for new talent.
What is truely amazing to me is when that 1 out of 1000 actually manages to make a career in this industry. Nina Hartley is a great example of a woman who has done very well in this industry for a long time. I think a lot of it has to do with the female performer in terms of her goals and if she's really wanting to make a career out it. It's like when you're new and hot you're in demand but there is risk of over exposure. If a female performer has certain assets that commands an audience and compensation then chances are she could stick around for a while.
I know that the industry is run by men but I don't think they totally get it in terms of always bringing in new talent. They should have a draft like professional sports, lol (can you imagine the Adult Film Industry Draft or even better the combine drills). That's why professional sports are so competitive, they control the talent that's allowed in the leagues instead of just flooding the market with a bunch of sub-par talent. Nothing wrong with telling a person no we don't think you're going to workout. I bet if I asked every guy in this forum who his favorite athlete of all time was he'd be able to tell me. Same thing with porn stars, everyone has a favorite.
When a girl has been out for a while they should "repackage" her in compilations featuring that star instead of fans having to buy a bunch of DVDs just to see the one girl you purchased the DVD for in the first place.
ClayraBeau
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659 Posts
2/10
Posted - Jul 22 2011 : 7:45PM
For some, they never wanted to do porn in the first place, but don't realize that until after a few shoots. Porn sex isn't "just having sex", and that can take the fun out of it for some.
Others get into a relationship where the S.O. is cool with it in the past, if it stays in the past, so they drop out.
A few, like I did, just find better paying work doing something else. In my case, I teach painting, though I'm still shooting here and there when it comes up.
A couple find Jesus.
One or two get freaked by a family or friend reaction.
In the end, girls leave the biz because they want to. It isn't like we get paid residuals, so we aren't seeing the crazy money the studios pull in. We don't even see the money the smaller producers pull in. For us it's very mercenary. Get in, make some cash, get out and remember to pay your taxes.
ControlFreak
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12/09
Posted - Jul 22 2011 : 7:58PM
^^^^^^
Ahh... Clayra. I like your work. I didn't know you had semi-retired! It doesn't seem like it on your twitter!
 
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Posted - Jul 22 2011 : 8:09PM
^ Actually, I think most of the current industry is "semi-retired."
It's a very tough time now, for all concerned, in every facet of the industry
BalabanPasa
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9/11
Posted - Sep 4 2011 : 3:32AM
Like everything porn is changing
Broadband internet access all over the world changed most things. Normal porn film maki,ng is fallinf. Because there are new alternatives to him. Most strong one is webcam sites yuo know. Performars can do ýt from theri home, no long trvels or big studios needed , its more easy to do. Costumars can talk and play with them directly its a really big deal. Porn future is going t there ý think.
And as ý see porn ýndustry is going more and more hardcore and extreme. They are trying the serve new things others dont do. Ýn total its makes for male or female performes work condidtions harrder. So they dont contunie this job much longer.
The reasons ý see are them .
pataymmm
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142 Posts
1/10
Posted - Sep 5 2011 : 1:47AM
Lets be real... Hot young girls are a dime a dozen nowadays. Lower pay and becoming a used dick bag by 22 must account for some of them leaving. It was different back when most girls still had sexual ethics... now its a boast to say i was in a porn flick. The revolving door will just get worse. But there will always be the rare Jenna Haze types.. super hot, superporn stars.
Hoya
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2/12
Posted - Mar 20 2012 : 3:06AM
The income is just not there.



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