I am so sick of these crappy behind the scenes dvd sections...the only company that has shown good bts is Acid Rain. I mean people want to see the outakes, the shit that didnt show up in the regular scenes. I am talking about unexpected things. I mean if we just watched a 30 minute scene with a girl getting fucked every way, why the hell would we need another 10 minutes bts of them getting fucked more? That is a waste. Also the interviews and extra tease is stupid as well, just throw that in the normal scenes.
Acid rain is the only company that has caught onto this! They show dirty/messy anal outakes, unexpected things, for instance in a recent flick, an outake where the chick bit the guys cock during oral, now that shit is interesting! Maybe show the girls preparing for anal, warming up to it with the guy,painful/uncomfortable moments where they have to stop, the director and girls talking before they shoot about what they are willing to do, guys having to stop because they are gonna cum, you know the things they dont show in the scenes!
I prefer to see porn stars having a good time, whether it be part of the main feature or in the behind the scenes footage. Bloopers are okay, as long as everyone is laughing. It's not very nice to have a laugh at someone else's expense.
If you like check out the up coming- Black Dicks, White Chicks 9 in the BTS I give a 20 min interveiw where I tell ins and out of each scene including the who,what when and why , plus extra footage!
...actually, I usually like seeing interviews in the BTS stuff. I agree with you on many of the other things you wrote, but I've always liked the bits where you get a glimpse of everyone's personality and interviews are usually good for this. When they're part of the scene, they tend to be shorter and cover the same boring topics (How old are you?, Is this your first time doing {fill in the blank}?, etc.) .
the best BTS footage I've ever seen was from Slayer Unleashed 3 with Lauren Phoniex doing an informal interview. Jessica Darlin's stuff wasn't bad and Kami's was far too short, but that's probably the best I've seen to date. hell, I'd take an entire DVD of BTS
Agree...I, too, really enjoy the BTS section if it's done right. Not familiar with any of Acid Rain's, but plan on checking them out. Some of RLD's are great, some not...and I'll look forward to Tee Reel's in BDWC 9. Anyway, if they're done right they can definitely add to the value of the DVD!
My favorite BTS is in "Tales From the Crack". The BTS has two parts "Pre-production BTS" and "Production BTS". The Pre-production BTS was what I liked best and consists of meetings with the directors and Evil Angel management to discuss the concept of the movie, ways to stage the individual scenes as well as the location scouting for the movie.
Coincidently I just watched Tales from the Crack yesterday, and I agree with Bill that the BTS is very good. I might even have spend more time watching the bonusdisk than on the movie (which ia also very good) itself.
deg- BTS stands for behind the scenes, which is a seemingly near mandatory inclusion on the extras section of adult DVDs from major companies now.
I know what bigbuttlover is talking about with Acid Rain. The BTS segments I have seen from them have shown me some stuff I truly didn't expect. For instance, we find out in the Ole In N' Out BTS that in the middle of the scene with Alex Devine and Chris Charming and Benjamin Bratt the guys noticed that Alex appeared to have a yeast infection. When Ben told her she looked confused and shocked. And then they continued fucking. I am not really sure if that was something I really wanted to see or not, but Acid Rain kept it in there. I think part of the possible problem with BTS is it can be too revealing and thus kill the fantasy for viewers. I know I never looked at that Alex Devine scene the same again. Then again, they can add an extra edge. However, they can also be interminably boring. I found myself bored by Jonni Darkko's Boob Bangers BTS, which mostly consisted of someone filming over Jonni's shoulder so we got to watch good portions of the sex again from a different angle. The interviews before that were at least nice (piper auston..not piper austin, I learned that much).
From other companies, sometimes BTS segments can be interesting and sometimes they can be mere window dressing. I do enjoy interviews with the girls because it is how you learn stuff about them. And I like stuff that seems spontaneous. I was just watching the BTS on Craving Big Cocks 4 and the director is interviewing Faith, who is naked. Mr. Pete is so turned on and eager to get to the scene that the two of them just start fucking during the interview. The director sits on the bed at Faith's head and tries to continue talking to her ("So, when was the first time you had sex?") and Faith tries to answer amidst moans. It's pretty interesting. Eventually, she stops answering questions, reaches out to start sucking the director's dick, and it turns into a full-blown extra scene where the director and Faith fuck while Mr. Pete films. She looks genuinely surprised at several of his bizarre yet earnest requests, such as "punch my balls" or "bite my cock." Was it truly spontaneous? The several cuts indicate otherwise, where at some point they surely had to stop and figure out her rates if she was willing to keep going with this. Or maybe it was completely staged, just like how Jules Jordan in his Rosebud days used to do stuff like this in his actual scenes (deep cheeks 6 w/TSC for one example) and everytime it looked staged but was convincing enough that you went along with it. Either way, this Faith thing was entertaining.
I'm with you, BigButtLover. After watching a scene where the young lady drinks five loads from a bowl, or whatever, I would love to see the negotiations for that scene beforehand.
" I would love to see the negotiations for that scene beforehand."
Now the negotiations of the actual scene--I can't say that I have ever seen anything like that in BTS. However, if you are talking about the money aspect of it I don't think that is any of our business. If you are talking about simply figuring out what the girl was willing to do, that could be interesting.
Erik and Mike John being funny, fucking the girls while the camera isn't rolling. Erik "getting his edge" when he's just about to cum. And of course fucking Angelina Crow in the middle of city with dozens of tourists and poilce watching and not doing anything but take photos.
You know I don't even waste my time watching them anymore. Much of the time the interviews are such a cardboard fabrication. The girls get the same questions generally asked by a guy who has never been introduced to the viewer. The guy tends to throw out the most uninteresting questions in a flat, monotonous voice (to make it sound incredibly exciting, perhaps).
The girls tend to answer in one of two ways:
1) Bubbly, uses lots of words, highly general answers, lying their ass off.
2) Highly anxious, uses fewer words, highly general answers, lying their ass off, doesn't look like she could be more uncomfortable. I've noticed that these tend to produce cum dodger scenes.
Then again, this is just my opinion, and your experience may differ from mine.
It depends. Some of it should kinda blow. There's a reason some footage is cut. Some of it feels slapped together, and some of it shows some great effort. Check out some of the earlier Wicked BTS featurettes when Red Ezra was running around behind the scenes. They're some of the best BTS scenes because you can tell that he and the girls get along great and he captures them being very human and in a very fun way. There's tons of personality that comes out in those scenes!
I agree that I really don't need to see the cameramen shooting the scenes. It's okay if it leads into an outtake of something happening, but seeing the same thing I saw in the movie with a guy holding a camera added to the mix doesn't do anything.
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There are 2 that i know of. 1 on each disc. From the main menu on either disc. On disc 1 highlight special features and press left to highlight the "BC" logo and select it. On disc 2 select pre production and press left to highlight the "BC" logo and select it. One is about Jonni Darkko and the other about Evan Stone.
Whats a easter egg?....just kidding I like BTS stuff quite a bit, I too would like to see more bloopers and direction given to the performers.
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Posted - Feb 28 2005 : 12:16AM
as for me i would love to see scenes with girls commenting on what they think of the actors they just had sex with, if they foudn them genuinely attractive and if not which preformers they would be like forward to fucking in the future and vice versa.
I do not like a lot of the BTS that are on DVD's today. The only ones that I find to be enjoyable are some of the Justin Slayer DVD. I mostly enjoy the BTS the just have someone behind the camera on some Vouyer type shit.
I like the BST that feature immediately after a scene when the chick's face is still covered with cum. Jules Jordan does a good job at showing their reactions.
I mentioned the BTS on Shanes World C.I really rawked in another thread, and Welcome to Valley from Nectar had a lot of spontaneous funny stuff (talking about #5 specifically) that got captured.
I think wicked still puts together a good BTS. Highway's was Great.
I'm with you... no more holding of the cameramen and just the same old thing we've seen already! I like to see the girls for who they really are. Not.... "Oh, I love 2 dicks up my ass." I want to see the personality. Kind of like you meet the girl at the bar for five minutes in the bts, then you can go back to the movie and fuck. Anything unique that shows us something we haven't seen.
i agree with kat......whenever i film bts i never ask routine questions. i try to capture real personality then anything. so if anyone is interested check out my bts for Take it Black,Ass Appeal,or Barely Legal Corrupted.
Random/obscure questions are always fun to ask the girls to get a good reaction out of them.
I remember one really funny BTS moment in Euro Angel Hardball 20. It's between a male star (I think it's David Perry -- I'm terrible at names, especially male names in porn videos) and a female (don't remember her name). They are standing in a kitchen and David has his arm arond the girl's waist, and they are talking to another person (Jean Yves Le Castle, I think). David tells Jean: "I'll show you a trick where I can get this girl to kiss me on the mouth in 5 seconds" (or something like that). Jean doesn't believe him. So David turns one cheek to the girl and asks her if she can kiss him on the cheek, the girl puckers up and just as she's closing in, David suddenly turns around and meets her mouth-to-mouth! The girl laughes and becomes very embarrassed for falling for such juvenile trick...
I agree with eveyrbody here. We don't need to see the sex scenes twice. I just loved the BTS on Vivid's "Panty Raid" where Shy Love, Nikki Loren & Kayla Marie were chilling out on a sofa and discussing men & oral sex and Dasha pops up and they fill her in on the discussion and they end up talking about gay-for-pay g/g and what gets them off. Nice to see Dasha blushing at times when discussing sex.
BTS is one my favorite pieces to work on when I am editing my material. Back when I was with Evolution Erotica, my BTS segments were like a cross between porno and Inside the Actor's Studio...way over the top with production values and editing, and very interesting to watch as their own little 20 to 30 minute featurettes.
These days, the volume of work I do has reduced my BTS to a simpler approach, but none the less entertaining. Typically 4 to 8 minutes long, I pack them with the true "cutting room floor" material...out-takes, fuck-ups, giggle-attacks, accidents, anything that got a laugh on the set, unusually candid moments, etc...
NEVER will you see 10 minutes of the lesser quality angles of the sex scene...pointless make-up sessions...superficial interviews...and anything that makes the talent, producers, or industry look bad.
I've always gotten high marks on my BTS, and I hope you enjoy them as well.
a coupla funny things I didnt think would make it into bts.. In Taste that ass I got mad cause the camera guy said ew dont let that touch me (talking about a buttplug from my ass) so I got pissed and chased him down and tried to put it in his mouth haha the same guy (ivan) got cum on him in ass eaters 9 hahaha
also i got caught picking my nose on a green screen test for texas ashole massacre, i was like fuck you you wont use it, well he did, also footage of me shorting out the wiring in the house hahaha