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kotoro
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Posted - Oct 23 2010 : 3:31PM
This is something thats struck me. There are many different races, white, asian, indian, etc. For some reason tho, when you look at inter-racial in the porn section, the vast majority of it is of the white woman/ black man or asian woman/black man variety. What ever happened to white man/black woman, or white man/asian woman or any other combination eg: asian man/black woman? You do sometimes find white male black female under the ebony categories, but the vast majority of ebony I've seen is black on black.
When you do find white male/black female in the interracial section, but its usually labeled in some way that makes it obvious that its the women that are black as if it has to be its own category and the majority of the scenes are of that variety.
Has anyone else noticed this? Seems to me the label should be changed, because interracial is too broad a category to be applied only to black male with [insert non-black race here].
Edited by - kotoro on Oct 23 2010
Solar4
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Posted - Oct 23 2010 : 8:16PM
It's become a euphemism for Black people being in the scene, male or female. So performers can actually say with a straight face that they've worked with Asian or Latino people, but have never done interracial
And the racial backwardness of the industry is to blame for it.
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Posted - Oct 23 2010 : 9:27PM
Because for the most part there no other races in US porn besides white males/females,
black male/females, asian women, and latin women. I'm including mexican, spanish,
brazilian, and so on under latin. Pick a better term if I'm not politically correct
here.
What do I mean there are no other races featured in U.S. porn besides those above?
Well name any male performers who are not black or white? Maybe a couple asians over
the history of porn or in foreign produce porn of course. There are definitely some
latin performers but many (especially those from Spain) can pass for white. There
are a few exceptions like Marco Banderos who has darker skin. But in general it is
very rare to see any non-white or non-black males in U.S. produced porn.
It's so rare that movies tagged as "Interracial" or "IR" always implies
white male/black female and/or black male/white female couplings. But what about
when white or black men do asian or latin women? Those titles get tagged as
such (i.e. "Asian" or "Latin" titles). For example, XrentDVD tags titles featuring
black men/asian women as "Interracial" + "Asian", but titles featuring
white men/asian women gets tagged as just "Asian". What about titles tagged as
"Black"? Those are considered to be all black movies featuring black men/black women.
So a better question is why doesn't U.S. produced porn feature more asian and latin
males? Racism? Demographics? Physical characteristics (i.e. bigger dicks)? Supply and
demand? Take your pick. I think its some of both. Remember there was a time when
porn featured very few black men at all and white females were discouraged from
performing with them. That changed as porn biz exploded, the market got saturated,
and companies started to diversify and go after niches.
Somebody could step up and produce porn featuring more asian and latin males but I
believe that already exist. There are tons of JAV titles featuring asian men (or
at least Japanese men some doing non-asian females). Some of those titles are sold
here in U.S. as well as overseas. I believe its the same for latin porn produced and
sold in Spain or Brazil.
Edited by - zambi on 10/23/2010 9:29:10 PM
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Posted - Oct 24 2010 : 4:34AM
Why does interracial mean black men fucking white women?
Because 'interracial' has become a marketing term, pure and simple. As such, it is as far removed from the 'real world' definition as any other word that has been co-opted by advertisers.
Solar4
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Posted - Oct 24 2010 : 4:50AM
That still doesn't explain why the industry acts like only 2 races in the world exist (i.e., Black and everyone else). And why Blacks in any scene with another race equals interracial, but Asians/Whites & Latinos being in scenes together doesn't equal interracial.
And it would help if someone from the industry could answer the question.
Edited by - Solar4 on 10/24/2010 4:50:46 AM
 
cm37564
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Posted - Oct 24 2010 : 10:14AM

the same reason "teen" means under 29 with small natural tits?
Pete Zaface
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Posted - Oct 24 2010 : 10:28AM
That's just the way it is.
kotoro
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Posted - Oct 24 2010 : 11:43AM
May be true bit it isn't a terribly helpful answer now is it?
I don't understand why black is the only race that has to be dealt with in euphemistic ways. It really does end up sounding like we're treating blacks as completely separate from the rest of the races and for some reason the apartness has a negative connotation rather than being the same of the differences between white/latin/asian. The racism lurking in our culture definitely has something to do with it, tho in saying so I'm not attributing it to any one individual, but the attitudes and mores that society holds that lead to marketing strategies like this.
Bert Piel
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Posted - Oct 24 2010 : 11:50AM
Mores? It's porn, not Soc 101.
Nobody really gives a fuck.
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Posted - Oct 24 2010 : 2:44PM
^ The consumers who want to see black guys fuck white gals give a fuck, which, like I said, is why pornographers use the term to mean that specific type of pairing.
goldenbear
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Posted - Oct 24 2010 : 2:59PM
Historically, the term "Interracial" meant a White/Black coupling. And even today, that mixture carries the most stigma. And, like many cultural taboos, a well-endowed Black male stretching a comparably small White vagina gets some people in the mood to jerk off. Labels aren't used in porn for the sake of precision, they are used to signal to the audience what to expect from the content. That's why porn producers use the term "Interracial." They want both the descriptive label and the connotation.
Edited by - goldenbear on 10/24/2010 3:00:13 PM
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Can someone please put up the emoticon of the dead horse getting beaten?
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Digmen1
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Posted - Oct 24 2010 : 9:23PM
Yes, and for the same reason as any female over 21 is now called a MILF.
As I white guy I tend to stay away from movies with IR on them.
I'm not racist, but I just don't like watching black guys fuck non black girls.

WisePaul
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Posted - Oct 24 2010 : 9:25PM
Another topic bound to be locked.
 
Steelehead
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Posted - Oct 24 2010 : 9:32PM
Locked it now!
Rosco Fuji
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Thanks, I needed that.
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Posted - Oct 25 2010 : 4:18AM
Exactly.
If Oriental or Indian Men suddenly became popular, you can trust that there would soon be a euphemism/acronym for that. But until that happens, the industry might as well stick with what works.
Solar4
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Posted - Oct 25 2010 : 7:13AM
It'll never happen. The industry because of its backwardness only recognizes two races: Black and everyone else. So they would never single out Asian or Indians as they do Blacks.
That's exactly it. They are treating Blacks as a separate group and Asian/Latinos as white which is why scenes with them aren't considered Interracial even though technically they are.
ILVBUTT
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Posted - Oct 25 2010 : 7:28AM
This thread should be titled 'Why do ex-members always pop back up with the same ol' shit!'
Steelehead
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Posted - Oct 25 2010 : 8:00AM
I smell a racist, please lock this thread now!
Young Herschel
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Posted - Oct 25 2010 : 4:01PM
^^ lol!!
Seriously though, the business model is what it is. Perhaps they do it this way because in certain areas of the country . . . white women fucking black men has always been taboo and still is today. So when retail porn stores place displays in thier aisle they do so according to the social standards of their particular commmunity; black on white gets the dixie blood a boilin' but asian on white not so much ;-)
If interracial where to include a more broad classification it would make retail of porn in various regions of the USA more difficult to sell from a business standpoint.
Rosco Fuji
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Posted - Oct 25 2010 : 4:36PM
One reason would be the title of "Stick that Big Black Cock up my tight little white ass" sounds a lot better than, "Stick your small chopstix thin asian cock into my little white ass."
WisePaul
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Posted - Oct 25 2010 : 6:16PM
To be honest with you I don't see racism in anything this guy said. BTW I'm an IR fan. IR is just not his cup of tea.
Edited by - WisePaul on 10/25/2010 6:18:18 PM
ntfighter
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Posted - Oct 25 2010 : 6:46PM
^^His statement was A-ok with me. I don't care to see white guys fuck at all. Until they get better I'm boycotting. All the rasslin, choking, spitting and banging the girl with their body rather then pushing with the dick. I've had enough.
 
WisePaul
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Posted - Oct 27 2010 : 7:57AM
I agree with the porn definition of IR. Reality is that there is a big difference between the black race and other races as far as physical characteristic. Physical differences between whites, asians, latinos and other non-blacks are minor. You put all those races together in a scene and you don't see much difference however when you put black with all those races, there is a big contrast. Because of these races, I think that the industry got it right with the term IR. Black is just very different from anything else, that is all. It goes beyond skin color. Hair texture, facial features, shape and size of head and much more. Other races are similar in those departments. That is reality and deal with it.
elliotthn05
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Posted - Oct 27 2010 : 8:26AM
because its from the history.

Edited by - redish on 10/27/2010 4:07:08 PM

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Posted - Oct 27 2010 : 9:28AM
A title search on this site using the word 'Asian' produced 1500 hits. It would have produced more if that wasn't the maximum number of hits the search engine will handle.
A title search for "Indian" doesn't produce nearly as many hits but, then, Indian is still an emerging market. Given time and continued demand, porn producers will undoubtedly flood that niche, as well.
Once again, porn is a business. Single out all the assholes and bigots you want, it doesn't change the fact that the industry responds to market forces.
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Posted - Oct 27 2010 : 7:23PM
Exactly. If a Lex-sized Oriental or Indian guy were to emerge, he will get work. There hasn't really been one yet, that I know of. One the other side, if you're White or Black, and have a small dingy, you will not.
Simple as that.
goldenbear
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Posted - Oct 27 2010 : 8:25PM
I think the difference is that "IR" porn is the only category in which the race of the male, Black, is marketed specifically. Hispanic males have been appearing in porn for years, and are singled-out only very rarely. I agree with you that the industry is responding to market forces by marketing Black male/non-Black female couplings as a distinct category. I don't agree with the previous poster that this reflects the backwardness of the industry. I think it reflects mainstream America. Interracial White/Asian couples usually attract less attention than do White/Black couples, and are less controversial. I don't think there is a right or a wrong opinion on interracial couplings so long as you mind your own business. Some people enjoy watching IR; some do not. Some performers choose to appear in IR porn; some do not. Nothing wrong with either side--JMHO.
sonofbones
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Posted - Oct 28 2010 : 2:25AM
Asian eyes are unique.
Black hair is unique.
Other than that, skin tone is the biggest difference and that is all over the place.
WisePaul
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Posted - Oct 28 2010 : 2:32PM
I don't think you are getting my point. You might never even get it. What I'm saying is that blacks are very different from any other race. The difference between other races and whites is minor. Black and white/latino/asian is like apples and oranges. White and latino/asian is like red apples, green apples and yellow apples.Although green and yellow apple are different in appearance it is pretty much the same thing. Black and any other race is like apples and oranges. Apples and Oranges are two different things. Do you get it? I can see why scientists divides races into two separate groups: The black race and the non-black race. Porn got it right.
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Posted - Oct 28 2010 : 4:54PM
Since I can never resist the opportunity to show off things I know, "interracial", where it stands for "black male on white female", is an example of a rhetorical device called "/Pars_pro_toto"
ninja1
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Posted - Oct 28 2010 : 5:22PM
^I read that wiki, and it seems to me that "interracial porn" is the opposite of pars pro toto.
Rather that taking a part for the whole, it's taking the whole for a part.
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Posted - Oct 28 2010 : 5:26PM
I don't know what scientists you believe think like that. Caucasian, Asian and African are the three groups distinguishable by bone structure. Everything else is just windows dressing, which is why white people can have black-skinned babies, and vice versa.
As for this idea that blacks are all alike, nobody who isn't blinded by prejudice is going to claim that the aboriginal people of Australia, the pan-Indonesian blacks, or even all African blacks look the same.
 
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Posted - Oct 28 2010 : 5:57PM
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Sure they would. If there was a big enough market among those. But those are not as numerous at least not in the US.
My guess is that black men prefer to watch black guys. I'm white and I prefer to watch white guys, it probably has to do with relating to the guy and picturing yourself in his place. I don't mind watching guys of other races, I just prefer watching my own.
As for girls, I couldn't care less about her race as long as she's hot. That's why the term refers to the guy.
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Posted - Oct 28 2010 : 6:10PM
Agreed I've never heard of scientist separating the world into the black and the non-black? plus I personally don't see this great difference between blacks and non-blacks especially when you include latinos who aren't a race and many of whom have black ancestry or are black.
nietzsche
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Posted - Oct 28 2010 : 7:13PM
I guess I don't know as much as I thought.
Solar4
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Posted - Oct 29 2010 : 6:17AM
Anti-Black statements don't get threads locked. Others do though.
The only difference among some Blacks and others is skin tone and facial features, but strangely those differences don't seem to matter in European adult movies where I don't think Interracial is even a separate category and if it is you don't have the same sort of illogical application of it, where Asian/White is non-ir, but Black/Any other race is ir.
And some Asians and Latinos are quite different physically from whites so the notion that they would all represent apples only varying in color, but Blacks don't is illogical.
And the adult industry only follows the backwards beliefs of some that work within it, which as has already been said seems to be exclusive to the USA because of its shameful history.
Edited by - Solar4 on 10/29/2010 6:34:41 AM
WisePaul
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Posted - Oct 29 2010 : 1:02PM
Can u elaborate more? Those are strong accusations there.
WisePaul
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Don't u think you are going to far? Are you American?
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I don't think Solar4 is off target, and I don't see how where he was born has a thing to do with it. He's a human being and, as such, has as much right to comment on how one member of his race treats another member as anybody else does.
Fortunately, the USA has done some things in the world that are praiseworthy, because there have been a lot of atrocities committed here, both before and after this nation was founded. If you were really interested you could find this out for yourself without too much trouble.
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Posted - Oct 29 2010 : 7:47PM
Mr IR troll if you don't like this country's history, why don't you leave? You think you will enjoy third world africa better?
Edited by - Blicky25 on 10/29/2010 7:49:02 PM
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Locked it now!
sonofbones
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Posted - Oct 30 2010 : 3:48AM
Dammit, I hate arguing over the interwebs but here goes...
To be frank, I will not attempt to understand that depressing idiocy, sorry.
Scientists, namely anthropologists, do not divide races into two separate groups. You, for whatever baffling reason, do. Genetically, there is very little difference between the categorized human populations(races)The differences are so minuscule, in fact, there are no distinct, significantly biologically different, human populations. The most variation actually occurs within respective racial groups.
Now phenotypically, as I stated earlier, Asian (eyes) and Black hair (texture) are unique relative to the other categorized human populations, but that is just my opinion, and opinions are obviously more important than factual evidence.
Regardless, I offered my feelings on the subject, as you did. I'll leave it that, wise one.
sonofbones
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Posted - Oct 30 2010 : 3:55AM
Sure they would. If there was a big enough market among those. But those are not as numerous at least not in the US.
My guess is that black men prefer to watch black guys. I'm white and I prefer to watch white guys, it probably has to do with relating to the guy and picturing yourself in his place. I don't mind watching guys of other races, I just prefer watching my own.
As for girls, I couldn't care less about her race as long as she's hot. That's why the term refers to the guy.
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Excellent guess, many gravitate towards what or whom they relate.
Generally, I don't care about race- I care about hot girls and good performances-but since I am Black, I relate more to Blacks.
Hey, people like what they like. Nothing wrong with that.
Edited by - sonofbones on 10/30/2010 4:00:48 AM
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The stupid in this thread is getting really heavy.
RiveGauche1999
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could it be because it has been so taboo since the slavery times? i personally get tired of it (bm & ww) i'd like to see more wm & bw or other races moreso than this. I also heard that (not sure if this is true) that wm secretly love to see ww handled roughly by a mandingo type black males (hence black "monster" cock). So please don't reply so defensively, i don't know how true this is but i'm sure it has some element of truth to it. . .
WisePaul
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It seems like that doesn't apply to WM/BF porn anymore.
Solar4
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Considering the shameful history of this country, no. And yes.
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He he
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