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tmd5
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seika izumi
502 Posts
6/04
Posted - Oct 19 2006 : 7:47PM
This isn't really a technical question or anything. Seriously, I purchased an Oppo Digital upscaling DVD player and a 1080P 43" LCD recently. I use the option to upscale everything to 1080i.

I don't know why it is, but ever since purchasing it some porn looks bad and some looks good.

Some movies I put in have so much detail that i'm actually grossed out. I can see every little zit, stretch mark and every little thing you don't want to see. Women even sometimes look dirty as if they haven't taken a bath in weeks sometimes! I'm sorry, but it's true. I explain this to my friend and he agreed. At first we were all thinking it's just the display doing this! As if he added too much "detail". I don't even have my sharpness cranked up or anything.

I think it may be a movies camera that makes everything look so much worse, yet with all this "nasty" detail you'd think that'd mean that they use higher cameras and it's supposed to be "better"? I don't think so really. Perhaps it's the lighting doing this?

I watched an Anabolic title and some Voyeur Vision titles and they just looked "Yucky"! Sorry, but I just couldn't watch them. I then put in some Jules Jordan stuff and a Platinum-X title and I didn't notice this problem at all. What's going on here? Do they airbrush the stuff or what?! I know that magazines do that to photos to make them look better, but I doubt that'd be the case with porn.

Seriously, lately i've watched so much porn and it's just been grossing me out and not in a good way. Any ideas?

Topic Moved by - hardware on Oct 19 2006

slutty
Member

12 Posts
10/06
Posted - Oct 19 2006 : 8:23PM
i'll trade you monitors for my PoS veiwsonic 17 inch . heheh. The most detail the better my friend!
JakeH
Member

174 Posts
12/04
Posted - Oct 19 2006 : 8:38PM
My girlfriend isn't blemish free so why should I expect a porn star to be perfect? Porn stars are real people after all.

But tmd5 does make a good point that porn can look bad in high definition. Will high def increase the quality of porn productions?


croy
Platinum Member

Discovry
4574 Posts
3/04
Posted - Oct 19 2006 : 10:31PM
Let's say that soft focus, a good make-up crew, and a lack of close-ups has been the friend of many a mainstream star.
10000 days
Deactivated User

Keep on trolling. What a bullshit! Im fucking unstoppable now ...
717 Posts
3/06
Posted - Oct 19 2006 : 11:07PM
I dunno. So long as they don't have a terrible acne problem or really disfiguring scars, I think it is fine to see imperfections. I don't want Playboy. I want sweaty, intense sex.

Gianna has quite a few stretch marks at various locations on her body, yet it would be hard to find anyone who doesn't think she is a great performer, and beautiful to boot.

But I agree about one thing. The move to hi-definition will definitely make these flaws more apparent. Hollywood has been griping about this for some time.

 
croy
Platinum Member

Discovry
4574 Posts
3/04
Posted - Oct 19 2006 : 11:49PM
Too bad, they've been pushing the impossible image of youthful perfection. Petard hoisting at its most shallow.
RandomPrecision
Senior Member

Enjoy!
8175 Posts
3/06
Posted - Oct 20 2006 : 5:28AM
Well....

I'm actually at the opposite end of the spectrum. I like seeing details. It makes it seem more realistic.

Acne? OK...maybe I'm not thrilled about seeing zits but they happen and I even have some myself. Stretch marks? I dunno. Maybe it's an odd fetish of mine but I actually like them.

At any rate, this has been a gripe of mine for years with porn. I don't want to see hazy, soft focus porn. I want to see the girl as she would really appear. If she has flaws, then so be it. Most of the girls I've ever been attracted to have had flaws. For me...it just makes it a bit more realistic. I've always HATED the obviously airbrushed and/or softened/blurred still pictures. Unless the girl has absolutely terrible skin or flaws, it isn't necessary. The more of her real skin I can see whilst fantasizing about her, the better.

Another possibility could be that you're seeing digital artifacts which have nothing at all to do with the appearance of the performer's skin. I don't know much about upscaling video but if it's anything like audio, upscaling will not add anything to the picture that isn't already there (except for maybe artifacts). You can't pull detail out of thin air. How does it look in standard mode? If you think it looks better in standard mode, then you should view your porn flicks in standard mode.

Edited by - RandomPrecision on 10/20/2006 5:34:48 AM

pinc_noiz
Deactivated User

758 Posts
6/05
Posted - Oct 20 2006 : 8:11AM
Oppo writes: Not all DVD players are created equal. Connecting an average DVD player to a High Definition display can be a disconcerting experience. The process of converting a Standard Definition DVD signal to the native resolution of the display may cause a host of video artifacts if not performed properly. These flaws will be especially noticeable on large and high-resolution screens. Quality deinterlacing and scaling are the key components to stable, artifact-free movie watching, and frequently the components built into many DVD players to perform these tasks are not up to the challenge. Low-end DVD players may not even have them at all..

These 'key components' are in your Oppo. Not state-of-the-art, but performing way above price level. Maybe your player is a more 'average' performer than your screen, or maybe the cables in use are, or the grid is? Generally, the higher the quality of the electronics in use, the higher the quality possible to reproduce, and the higher the risk to see 'negative' artifacts. Tip (already said in this thread): use native-definition settings (i.e.: disk in standard definition?: set your player @480p and screen @72 hex 480). Or simply re-adjust your eyes ...

p_n

As in porn a DVD is 'over-priced' all to soon, it's of no surprise to see lots of low quality porn DVD's ...

Edited by - pinc_noiz on 10/20/2006 8:18:46 AM

Yani Z
Vizual Films

179 Posts
2/03
Posted - Oct 20 2006 : 12:51PM
Tmd5 I didn’t realize Anabolic was butting out HD DVDs ?!? When you say that your TV up scales do you mean Interpolated? That would make a huge difference as it’s not a true image but it makes basically copies of the pixel so it may grab a pimple and make it 5 times bigger if you’re unlucky. Which DVD form Anabolic did you see? I know there are HD camera’s there.
The new standard for HD (1080) might make things more then real for some things. Kind of like how Velva makes everything look more real then it is. Reds look redder greens look greener etc… Regular HD that you been seeing through the years is pure real image lots of people say that’s too sharp. I thinking it’s just a matter of taste. The new HD might bring things out more as it seems to be sharpening thing to we’re it pops. So if you have a vein that you won’t noticed it might pop out even more were you could see it. Too much detail as you say. People are not perfect that’s why there’s so much diffusion in non-sex movies and lots of editing add on’s to sweeten the look.
I say its all in the lighting now, more so then ever. If you didn’t know you can vary sharpness with lighting as well.
Yani Z
BigBobxxx
Senior Member

2681 Posts
5/04
Posted - Oct 20 2006 : 1:41PM
I see plus and minus on both sides of the "see more clarity/see less imperfections" debate.

One thing I'll state flat out, is that I DON'T want to see razor-burn-stubble and ass-pimples in HD clarity.

HD clarity is great for porn as long as the proper care (i.e. effort) is taken with make-up and lighting. And, I'm not talking about air-brushed sanitizing either!
Seeing the "real" details on the performers can be a real turn-on when you're into them. Almost like you can smell and touch them.
Bianca Pureheart, in North Pole #59 , for example, obviously has some facial acne-type issues. They are tastefully handled with make-up, etc. Far from detracting from her appearance, it is all part of her "look" and a real turn-on.
On the other hand, if this same scene were shot in a filthy Extreme warehouse "set," with no make-up and the lovely harsh lighting from the neon lights in the ceiling grid, it probably would be unbearable.

HD is going to separate the men from the boys, and the artists from the hacks. Studios and directors who produce quality may be able to benefit from HD.

Finally, a serious question:
Isn't the transition to HD really more of an issue of porn maintaining compatibility with emerging technology and hardware (as opposed to any real improvement in the porn viewing experience)?

BigMatt
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Sunrise Adams, Queen of Cute.
498 Posts
12/04
Posted - Oct 26 2006 : 6:44AM
Yay!

People are just people. I don't mind imperfections on otherwise good looking people. Realism is good. And if a director want the movie to look "unreal" he or she can just choose to add some blurry filter. That's an artistic choice I can respect. But don't take HD away from us just because people are not perfect.

pinc_noiz
Deactivated User

758 Posts
6/05
Posted - Oct 27 2006 : 6:44PM
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