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ClayraBeau
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Posted - Mar 9 2011 : 12:07PM
I'm ignoring the long form fights about whether or not smoking is dumb and what is happening to the parody.
So, I think part of the reason smoking doesn't come up in porn is that smoking doesn't usually come up in sex until all is fucked and done. That said, I know that Dreamflixx.net takes requests for custom videos, and they have a clips store http://www.clips4sale.com/studio/28209
stinkfist
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Subterfuge......
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Posted - Mar 9 2011 : 5:23PM
No problem Dani,you might want to check out this thread that Christoph has for his Top Wet Girls series and maybe give him some feedback regarding the cigarette scene in Top Wet Girls 6.Link to CC thread
Aplus
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Posted - Mar 9 2011 : 7:29PM
I didn't read every post in this thread, so excuse me if I'm repeating something someone else said.
I know that Joey Silvera has played around with it a few times. Having trouble rememberng who or what films though. Thinking maybe Hanna West at least once, but could be wrong.
Silvio Dante
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Posted - Mar 10 2011 : 9:40AM
I too have not read every post in this thread so I apologize in advance if I am repeating a scene already mentioned. (I lost track of things when people started arguing.)
With being said, I just watched Rocco’s Back and in the first scene Tara White and Aliz each smoke a cigarette before and during the scene. At one point Aliz actually requests a puff of Tara’s cigarette - a request to which she refuses. That’s my contribution, take it or leave it.
 
Rosco Fuji
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Posted - Mar 10 2011 : 9:53AM
Maybe they ignore it because it's bad for you. It tells you right on the pack, smoking is dangerous. Even if they did do a smoking dvd, someone will complain that they need to do a chew release.
danl
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436 Posts
3/05
Posted - Mar 12 2011 : 5:27AM
Rosco: I really don't think that porn directors ignore our huge and (because they DO ignore it, and the rarity of seeing sexy porn stars lighting up and inhaling deeply on their cigarettes is almost NEVER shown anymore)ever-growing smoking fetish because of warnings on cigarette packs.
In my opinion, "steam stream" directors ignore our fetish because MOST of them lack the expertise to accommodate what would be the "burning down" of the woman's cigarette during the constant retakes, which their ineptitude sooften causes--having never heard of somewhat more sophisticated directorial technques such as voice overlays--in fact, I have been told this numerous times personally by various porn ladies, who said that their scenes had started out with a cigarette, but some director in frustration had said "forget it" after having stage crews constantly supplying new cigarettes.
ANOTHER reason, only 3% of the adult films produced in a given year incorporate sexy smoking women characters is because of what I call the IDIOTORS in the industry--those "snip happy" jerks who MUST do something to keep their jobs, and being completely ignorant of the wide-spread appeal of our fetish, consider ANY cigarette smoking scenario as superficial fodder and thus, are quick to "IDIOT it out."--AGAIN, many, many ladies have told me, or written to me, to watch for a particular movie in which they had smoked---THEN, in the finished product, NADA!
A case in point, female director Nica Noelle pointed out on THIS forum, that in "MY Girlfriend's Mother," she had done sort of a take on that classic film "The Graduate," and thus, there had been several sexy cigarette smoking scenes by the lead actress, Magdalene St. Michaels--The END result, only ONE quick light-up, and another victory for the fim's IDIOTOR!
In conclusion, I REALLY think that the vast majority of the adult film drectors out there, don't concern themselves about any possible health factors when they choose to IGNORE our fetish passion--its, ineptness, ignorance, set clean-up issues, maybe a small bit of fire code concerns, and ESPECIALLY, they just DON"T GIVE A GOOD G DAMN!!!
danl
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436 Posts
3/05
Posted - Mar 13 2011 : 4:45PM
Oops!, I can't believe that in my above answer, as to why we MILLIONS of cigarette smoke fetishist, world-wide, NEVER find scenes of sexy, shapely porn stars lighting up and smoking their cigarettes in adult film presentations (and since this happens in only 3 out of every 100 "steam stream" presentations, that's pretty much NEVER) is because 99.99% of the adult film directors out there, either consider themselves part and parcel of the extremely vocal "anti-smokeite" faction or do their best to "kow-tow" to its ultimate goal of stomping out, with "jack boots," every lit cigarette on the planet.
THAT, is without a doubt, the BIGGEST reason our huge and ever-growing fetish passion is ignored by porn---And once again, the probability of seeing sexy female cigarette filmed light-ups as proof:
In foreign-made public films-40%
In foreign-made porn-30%
In American-made public films-20%
In American-made porn-3%
NOW, if the above LUDRICOUS DISCREPANCY in figures does not convince porn viewers that a well-organized, conscious and concentrated effort to "snuff-out" sexy female cigarette smoking scenes and character roles, isn't being carried out by 99.99% of adult film industry's producers, directors, writers and IDIOTORS (editors) out there, NOTHING will!
stinkfist
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Subterfuge......
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Posted - Mar 13 2011 : 5:07PM
I might be wrong here but i seem to recall some smoking scenes in some Marc Dorcel movies,sorry i cannot give names of movies but might be worth trying to do some searching for info on the net.
danl
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436 Posts
3/05
Posted - Mar 13 2011 : 6:08PM
You're right Stink, Marc Dorcel, probably more than any other current porn director, incorporates sexy cigartte smoking female character roles in his presentations (maybe, as high as 30%) BUTT, again, its in AMERICAN-made adult films that is my special "niche," so to speak.
For, Then, I can much more easily identify with the actress/performers, having seen them numerous times on film, and even, in real life at various feature dance performances across the country--where they most always were seen smoking cigarettes between their dance sets, while "mixing" with their fans, and WHY, I put the percentage of female "real lfe" porn smokers at well over 60%, btw.
On a personal note, I've sat across the table enjoying drinks, with more ladies in the industry than I can ever remember, and always enjoyed TREMENDOUSLY "lighting them
up," and at the same time, my MR Happy!, as well, btw.
But, thanx again for the "heads up" on Dorcel, and YES!, I've seen many, many of his smoking HOT (pun intended) feature films.
stinkfist
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Subterfuge......
7401 Posts
4/07
Posted - Mar 19 2011 : 1:10AM
Another title with a brief smoking intro is Face Fucking Inc 10(trailer) from Joey Slivera Evil Angel.Sorry i have no screen grabs this time but the scene involves Tanner Mayes and she is outside in the sun by the pool looking great and wearing her sunglasses and is enjoying a cigarette as she gets interviewed
She takes a few drags from it and as the interview plays out she continues to hold the cigarette and as it burns down she tips the ash from it,the fact that she is still holding the cigarette while she slips down her top to reveal her bikini might be of interest to you as it can clearly be seen,it might not be exactly what you are looking for but sometimes a vivid imagination can get you by(fill in your own blanks) lol.
Edited by - stinkfist on 3/19/2011 1:11:24 AM
Blueprint1
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Posted - Mar 19 2011 : 1:13PM
WHY DO PORN STUDIOS CONTINUE TO IGNORE THE EVER GROWING LESBIAN SQUIRT MOVEMENT??
I wish all adult companys like Vivid, Wicked, New Sensations , Evil Angel, Elegant Angel, Platinum X, and Third Degree videos would all start producing more and more hardcore girl on girl squirting, strap-on fucking , lesbian pussy eating, wet pussy pissing, piss facials and spitting videos you know what I mean??
:)
danl
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436 Posts
3/05
Posted - Mar 22 2011 : 5:39AM
Blueprint: I can guarantee you that with the exception of pissing or "Golden Shower" scenes as they are called (which might be illegal to film here in the States, although I'm not sure), you will have a much better chance seeing what YOU want to see in a porn film than I.
In fact, I would put your wish chances at about a 10% probability, while my chances of seeing a sexy, shapely porn star lighting up and smoking a cigarette in either a gonzo or feature film scenario at just about 3%, or a little over three times less than yours.
The irony of this, of course, is two-fold: First, smoking has always been a vital component of that "bad girl" imagery, which I THOUGHT adult film directors always tried to exploit, and while main-stream Hollywood film directors have always used cigarette smoking as a film technique to enhance bad girl character roles and especially, that chamelion-like transformation of a "good girl gone bad,"-- as in Olivia Newton John's sexy cigarette smoking transformation in the classic movie, "Grease,"-- "steam stream" directors NEVER, and I mean NEVER, seek to utilize that smouldering cigarette, dangling from a sexy woman's luscious lips, as a highly effective screen prop to develop more fully any number of female character roles.
The second irony of the LUDRICOUS continual failure by the adult film industry to incorporate sexy cigarette smoking women in their productions, is that somewhere between 65 and 70% of ALL the women making porn films are themselves smokers, and its not like having them smoke a few cigarettes on camera, will somehow, force them to change their life style, in the way so many "antis" would hope.
The simple truth, is that a number of adult film directors are themselves, reformed former smokers, and there are few things more fanatical than a reformed ANYTHING, as for example, Bible Belt "JESSSUSSS Freaks, who MUST "bring the message" of John23, ad nauseum, to everyone in sight---Hell, they even stick it up between goal posts at football games.
And while such signs permeate practically every high school, college, pro stadium and even gymnasiums today, we many, many smoke fetishist (Search "smoking glamour" and "smoking fetish,") can be fairly certain of seeing just as many "No Smoking" signs in the background of every porn set. ############### insert multiple curse words.
Katvena
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Posted - Sep 14 2012 : 9:13PM
Ive seen Tori Black smoking in G/G Scene.
Julie Simone
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Posted - Oct 3 2012 : 10:27PM
I have a whole site of nothing but smoking fetish videos!Smoking T.V.
Smoking Julie.jpg
 
stinkfist
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Subterfuge......
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Posted - Oct 4 2012 : 3:15AM
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AJ Applegate
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If it's not in your mouth or on your face.. it's a waste !!
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8/12
Posted - Oct 4 2012 : 3:53AM
Check me out on draggonladies.com I love doing smoking fetish videos! =)I'm under Kaylee Evans
xoAJ
slyloki
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I don't exist when you don't see me..
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8/12
Posted - Oct 6 2012 : 7:30AM
There's still more smoking movies out there that movies with girls sucking on licorice straps, so stop your whining.. :D
But you seem to ignore the rest of the crew, who maybe non-smokers, why should a cameraman be exposed to smoke if he's a non-smoker?! Why would a producer risk a lawsuit he'd lose due to violating workplace safety/oh&s issues?!
Find some smoker chicks, shoot your own porn and fap away bro.. Stop including the rest others who may like a hot chick smoking into your stupid reasoning.. The (porn) world doesn't owe you!! Be greatful for what you are given!
danl
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Posted - Oct 17 2012 : 1:32PM
"Slyoki" says, and I quote, "be grateful for what you're given," re my constant request for more sexy cigarette smoking scenarios, within the context of adult film productions.
By explanation, For myself, and a great many men, just to see some sexy,shapely porn star place a long all-white, cigarette between her luscious lips (preferably, one of the feminine brands, designed specifically to enhance the beauty of a lovely woman's lips and hands) and to see her inhale (suck) deeply as she ignites it, conjures "visions of blow jobs, dancing in our heads."--which I've said many times, beats the Hell out of sugar plums.
For a smoldering cigarette, between the fingers, or dangling between the lips of a beautiful, well-built, sexy woman, has always been a most powerful phallic symbol to we of the "smokerhood," the coined term for our smoke fetish passion.
The problem is, however, we "never" see such a sexy sight in adult films, any more, or at the "highest," level, about 3 out of every 100 porn films produced---Yes, I do keep tabs.
So, Sly, if those "crumbs" to you, is for what I should give thanks, then, sir, I, along with more men than you and I could ever begin to realize (as a quick Google of "smoking fetish," and smoking glamour," quickly validates) will be the most "ungrateful" porn followers on the planet!
Please understand, we're not asking the adult film industry to turn into a smoking fetish outlet for our passion-- frankly, too much of anything is "too much."
But, in the context of an adult film, if the lady, or ladies, are smokers as a part of their life style choice, then, within the natural flow of the production, incorporate female smoking scenes, to enhance that sexuality, and "free spirit," the way main stream Hollywood has done for decades, and, btw, those,"countless" beautiful, ample-breasted women, "igniting" the Silver Screen, in more ways than one, actually, gave birth to the smoking fetish, way back in the 40's and 50's, where both smoking and glamour were "interwoven," as never before.
Certainly, those times are "long gone," and its a new age, so to speak, but for we many older men, seeing those "sexy, cigarette smoking sirens," still remain in both our thoughts, and quests, and since the adult flm industry's very existence, has always been based on "bad girl imagery," of which, that, dangling, smoldering cigarette, between a woman's glossy lips, has always been a vital part of the picture, such scenes should be "porn prominent," in our view.
Of unique interest to me, btw, after going to our many "smokerhood" forums and chat rooms, was my discovery that a huge number of younger men, weaned agaist smoking since "diaperhood," are now, smoke fetishist, because, according to them, the extreme rarity of seeing any good-looking woman lighting up a cigarette in adult films, nowadays, makes it a "treat," and to some, even, represents a bit of "rebellion" against the myriad of smoking taboos in our society,today.
So, please, take note, all you adult film producers and directors, a great many sexy cigarette smoking porn stars, comprising, I would guesstimate, over 70% of all the ladies doing porn, are "ready, willing and able," to make both your feature and gonzo film presentations, a whole lot "hotter," if you would just "ask???"
And, finally, to both male and female film directors, I can assure you, as I always like to stress, when it comes to filming sexy cigarette smoking scenarios, "For every anti, out there, there's most definitely, a WANTY!!!
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