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mackie
Member


23 Posts
10/04
Posted - Mar 8 2005 : 8:54AM
I usually won't buy a movie unless I can at least view some pics and preferably the trailer. I've found that I've been buying a lot of Evil Angel, DVSX, and Digital Playground stuff lately and I started thinking about why I don't have more studio variety and it dawned on me that these 3 studio sites are where I frequent because I can view the trailers for a lot of their movies. After I view them I get interested in the movie and buy. I've been to several other sites, like Private, Platinum X, and Red Light but there's no trailers available for free (or very few) so I don't buy cause I have no indicator of what the movie's going to be like.

Part of the genius of Jules Jordan is to offer some free pics and stuff on his site. i often go there, see some of the free stuff pics, and whattyaknow I'm buying the movie the pics are from.

i would think that more studios would offer free trailer views for their movies. It seems it would only increase potential sales.

Anybody else like viewing the trailer before purchase?

oatmeal
Meat Popsicle

Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Mar 8 2005 : 9:02AM
I look for trailers, screen shots and ADT reviews before taking note of a film. Although recently I didn't and was blindsided by a bunch of gagging, spitting and choking in Balls Deep #8.

I can see companies not creating trailers because of the cost to make, host and server power and bandwidth to distribute them.

note: Private does have trailers for their newer films.

TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03
Posted - Mar 8 2005 : 2:27PM
I think the answer to your question lies in the often geometric relationship between how much a preview might downloaded (cost) and how many people who download the preview will actually go ahead and buy the video (return).

If you're a company like Evil Angel (or Dreamworks), companies which make products that appeal to a wide range of people and have strong upside potential, then putting money into getting the word out makes sense – the more people see what E.A. is doing, the more discs they're going to sell. (Take a look how easy E.A. makes it for even the most casual visitor to their Web site to spend a whole afternoon looking at trailers.)

If you're a specialist catering to a niche market, or if the upside of your product is limited by lower quality, then there's a limit to how many units you're going move, regardless of how many people know what you have to offer. When you've got a niche', low volume product, giving casual porn surfers a free taste isn't going to translate into sales at the same rate as your bandwidth charges.

Conversely, ever businessman knows your returning customer is the easiest sale. As long as you maintain your level of quality (whatever that may be) your repeat customers are going to keep coming back. Their satisfaction with their earlier purchases is better marketing than any trailer.

Speaking of trailers and freebies, we've just put up a preview of our next release:

<bXana and Dax: When Opposites Attract

Enjoy!

-T.C.

Jacco All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

"liable to deprave and corrupt"
2673 Posts
5/04
Posted - Mar 8 2005 : 11:18PM
OK, I admit the money could be a problem, but why do some studios object if we want to put a trailer on our website, trying to sell their movie? It is not going to cost them a cent, and if the movie sells well, we buy more movies from them.
Some studios supply us with pictures and clips to put on our site, others allow us to make trailers ourselves (some of the smaller studios are glad when we take the time and effort to do that), but others complain: "You put a 30 second clip of our movie on your website, take it off!"


Jacco

Bill All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

5334 Posts
6/00
Posted - Mar 8 2005 : 11:26PM
disclaimer:
This is just a guess and I'm not sure if Copyright laws are among those that work this way, but...

It could be due to some weird laws in the US that sometimes say that if you let one person do something, you give up the right to prevent someone else from doing the same thing.

So, if they allow you to put portions of their movie on your site, even though you are not profiting from it and are uising it to sell their product, they can't go after other sites that are pirating their movie and costing them sales.

 
TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03
Posted - Mar 9 2005 : 6:29AM
You're half right, Bill. For example, if a company is lax about protecting it's trademark, it can lose it's rights to the trademark. Don't know if the same concept applies to copyright.

However, you can "let" someone do something (like post a trailer or clip) without giving up your right to deny other people. That's how licensing works.

-T.C.

Jacco All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

"liable to deprave and corrupt"
2673 Posts
5/04
Posted - Mar 9 2005 : 12:47PM
What Tony said, you can grant one person the right to copy part or whole of your product, without granting it to somebody else. Limited copyrights get sold (or given away) all the time, you can give company X the copyrights for internetclips, company Y for PAL VHS rights, company Z for NTSC DVD rights, all for the same movie.
And for small parts of a work (like screenshots or a 30 second trailer) there are even 'fair use' rights: if you do a review of a book or a movie you can quote parts (size depending on a lot of things) of it without breaking copyrights. That has been well established in courtcases all over the world.


Jacco

Edited by - jacco on 3/9/2005 12:48:17 PM

zigster
Member

51 Posts
8/03
Posted - Mar 17 2005 : 12:04AM
Because they know you are doing it just to get hits.
Brandon Iron
BrandonIron.com

3832 Posts
3/02
Posted - Mar 17 2005 : 12:18AM
Platinum X currently has trailers available for our 8 most current releases.
Here is a link:
Click here

The trailer for INTENSITIES IN 1O CITIES #2, our first double-disc release, is here:
Click here

The trailers stay up for approximately one month and are then replaced by newer ones.
Also, our DVDs come with extras that include trailers for other Platinum X releases.

Enjoy!
Brandon

phatbasey
Senior Member

1390 Posts
1/05
Posted - Mar 17 2005 : 1:22AM
I will be picking up double D POV NOW....it make sense and cents people to include trailers on your website....

Edited by - phatbasey on 3/17/2005 2:19:42 AM

The Fly Is Open
Member

Where in the hell is my grilled cheese?
575 Posts
3/05
Posted - Mar 17 2005 : 1:36AM
I can never get the trailers at the PXP/RLD websites to work.
bigdick
Member

777 Posts
12/01
Posted - Mar 17 2005 : 7:54AM
And Elegant Angel trailers sucks. They do nothing to say go and buy me cause you'll be satisfied.
Tinaka
Member

953 Posts
8/03
Posted - Mar 17 2005 : 9:49AM
Sometimes from watching trailer i feel ive seen the whole movie and don't want to buy it anymore. Some trailer show the a bit of the tease, oral , vaginal, anal d.p. etc (everything) and cumshot of every scene. Sure it does l;et me know what the movie is like but it's a bit like f-forwarding through the movie.
John Knowles
NJ Films

178 Posts
9/04
Posted - Mar 17 2005 : 3:32PM
We offer a trailer on each of OUR titles!
NJ Films inc!

Edited by - John Knowles on 3/17/2005 3:32:15 PM

Jacco All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

"liable to deprave and corrupt"
2673 Posts
5/04
Posted - Mar 17 2005 : 7:56PM
Huh? For a retail site I am not that interested in hits, I want customers to buy the movies and titles with trailers usually sell better, it's as simple as that.

Jacco

 
dorian g
21sextury

54 Posts
8/04
Posted - Mar 18 2005 : 3:44AM
marzalek
Member

North West of Englans
48 Posts
3/05
Posted - Mar 18 2005 : 4:34AM
And very good they are too, Dorian.

CAn they be bought in the normal retail outlets/websites.

Any (independent) reviews of your products??

dorian g
21sextury

54 Posts
8/04
Posted - Mar 18 2005 : 5:05AM
you can find them here http://www.yourchoice.co.uk/
They will be reviewed soon by ADT
On AVN.com you can find a complete review of Sandy's girls 1 and eXXXtraordinary Eurobabes 1
RLD Fiend
Member

Cincinnati, O.
665 Posts
10/04
Posted - Mar 18 2005 : 1:57PM
I feel the same way. When I see a trailer, I figure I've already seen the "highlights" of the film, so why go and buy it?
cobalt60
Knuckle Dragger

2046 Posts
2/03
Posted - Mar 18 2005 : 2:57PM
<insert short attention span joke here>
phatbasey
Senior Member

1390 Posts
1/05
Posted - Mar 18 2005 : 3:28PM
I totally disagree, trailers make me buy films! IMHO there are not enough available out there....I spend mucho dollars purchasing, (not renting for a one-time thrill) films and am all about rewatch value, so seeing a trailer works for me just like mainstream movies...I usually buy or add to my wish list as soon as seeing the trailer. Please keep them coming.
spitty
Member

730 Posts
12/04
Posted - Mar 18 2005 : 3:41PM
I wish that more studio sites offered trailers. I would also buy more if I had a good idea of what I would get.

It would also be nice to have more substance in these trailers , as well. In other words , don't waste half the trailer showing credits, special effects , darkness , and other useless things.

A 90 second trailer can't substitute for the whole video. WE will still want to see the rest of it.

VertigoVic
VertigoVideo

44 Posts
6/04
Posted - Mar 18 2005 : 5:03PM
We have 3 minute trailers of all our movies on www.vertigodvd.com have a look.


Best,
Vic

rldwebmaster
New Member

Chatsworth
3 Posts
11/04
Posted - Mar 18 2005 : 5:40PM
SG Video
SG Video Customer Care

63 Posts
11/04
Posted - Mar 20 2005 : 1:02PM
SG Video Produktion Germany offers free trailer of a couple of movies at the cooperation partner website

http://www.online-videoshop.com

New trailer are cut and will be uploaded within the coming days.

Please enjoy,


Christian, SG Video Customer Care

 
Don S
Colossal Entertainment

16 Posts
8/04
Posted - Mar 23 2005 : 2:19AM
Colossal entertainment has great trailers see at
www.colossalent.com
TomLeykisFan
Member

66 Posts
3/05
Posted - Mar 23 2005 : 11:33AM
I have a question for Club Red Light: why don't you allow visitors to your website clubredlight.com to download trailers to their hard drives?

For us that have shitty 56K modems you can't watch the trailers streaming...I would suggest having the option to download the files.

Thanks...and the same question for Platinum X Pictures. It's too bad cuz both companies offer a wonderful product.




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