I was watching a cam show yesterday with the awesome Angel Dark and the director asked her if she would dirty talk in Slovakian whilst she was masturbating. For me, I thought it was incredibly hot and something that I have rarely seen in her scenes. So I was just wondering, why don't more directors get Euro-pornstars and other pornstars for whom English is not their first language, to speak in their mother tongue? Do the directors think it will harm the sales of their movies? To me it can get a bit bland if the girl is limited to broken English (mostly consisting of ''yes'') and moaning all the time. What do you guys/girls think, is it a turn-off or turn-on for a girl to speak in a foreign language? Btw, if anyone has any reccommendations of scenes/movies where the girls speak exclusively or almost exclusively in the native language it would be cool if we could get a list going. Another really good example would be Sativa Rose and Rebecca Linares in Cumaholics 1, that scene was hot as hell, and I dont understand a word of Spanish :) Edited by - hariseldon on Mar 25 2010
@ Unkwnusr2 But that's kind of the point. For me, it's pretty hot/exotic to hear a girl dirty talking in another language which I dont understand. If I wanted to listen to dirty talk that I can understand then I can watch 99% of the porn out there where the girls speak English. @angelus113 It was on www.dangerlive.com, they do a number of free cam shows with stars like Kagney Lynn Karter, Lisa Ann, Kayden Kross etc. It's a good site, but recently they have put a key-hole type shadow over the screen to encourage people to join up. It was good to see Angel back in the US, she said she had recently done a scene with Brazzers and someone else (I forget who...)
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Posted - Mar 25 2010 : 9:29AM
The only pornstar I've heard speak their native language while getting fucked is Rebecca Linares. But all she said was "si" so I don't think that counts.
In the JaynaOso/KatjaKassin/Mandingo scene, Katja becomes more verbal as the scene develops and intensity increases. By the time she's getting deep analed by Mandingo, shes's saying a lot of German stuff; whatever it is, it sounds dirty. Likewise, in the ChiquitaLopez/Mandingo scene, she crosses over from Spanglish to total Spanish in the end (when she's getting it in the end).
But this would be a niche preference. Us normal well-adjusted people are well aware that the content of what a woman is saying is to be paid the utmost attention to as it is of paramount importance to the world at large. So to intentionally seek out situations in which a woman's words are used as nothing more than a vehicle for sexual arousal, regardless of their meaning, is quite misogynistic if I may say so.
^ Whereas the rest of porn is positively philanthropic... Point taken though. I guess it depends on whether your attitude is "who gives a fuck what she says??" or "I would prefer her to be able to use her own voice, rather than pandering to my ignorant English-speaking desires." I responded to the Monica Santhiago scene in the latter sense. Either way, all of porn is at least partly a construction, so assuming everything a woman says in English is some kind of pure outpouring of their sexual selves is probably misguided.
Too few of the American girls are saying anything worth paying attention to. There are plenty of posts and threads here lamenting the canned phrases getting uttered in autopilot mode. The non-English girls might be saying lame tired canned phrases too, but if I don't comprehend the words, it's not boring.
True, perhaps the title of the thread was poorly worded. I don't expect every foreign pornstar to use their mother tongue in their scenes, but it would be nice to see more of it.Are you serious? So then what is the difference between English dirty talk and French dirty talk? According to you they are both misogynistic because by definition they ''are nothing more than a vehicle for sexual arousal''. Since the majority of porn has dirty talk in it, are you accusing the majority of porn viewers to be mal-adjusted misogynists? @ Ninja1, do you know the name of the film for the Jayna/Katja/Mandingo scene? Sounds pretty good.
Just offhand I can think of two scenes. One was with Rebecca Linares in a GirlFriends Film where she and her co-star spoke to each other in Spanish. It could have been something like "should I look at the camera?" or "what kind of conditioner do you use?" but i found it to be a turn on, being that I don't understand Spanish. in another scene, Paola Rey and her partner talked in Spanish. Again I found it pretty sexy. Yeah, i think the Hungarians and the French should do this too. I think, you see this more often in some Private and Dorcel films. But it definitely sexier than the banalities that American actresses routinely utter.
I don't know, but one of the hottest/cutest thing I've seen lately was Madison Parker (some kind of Eastern European - Hungarian maybe?) in Pound the Round POV struggling to say the word "balls" in "you want I suck your balls?" it came out like "bwaws"
It is hot especially if you've ever been with someone who speaks (and moans) in that particular language. For example, Nikita Denise's performance in a FORBIDDEN FLESH (Sin City 2000) brought back fond memories of my Czech girlfriend---T0M Edited by - T0MBOne on 4/11/2010 11:00:17 AM
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Posted - Apr 11 2010 : 11:03AM
There's a scene in "Fist Flush 3" (Cruel Media) with Megane and Cecilia Vega, both French porn stars and director Raul Cristian tell them it's no problem if they want to talk dirty in French, and they do... Edited by - Joey Starr on 4/11/2010 11:04:06 AM
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Posted - Apr 11 2010 : 12:24PM
There are reams of scenes with Latinas talking in Spanish as part of the overall setup. There's also a difference between a woman just talking shit and heated conversation, which to me is the gold standard of true dirty talk. That's where it gets a little tricky, especially in Euro porn, where the women and men come from all points of the European union and can only communicate in a third language, usually English. As far as understanding what they say. I don't see it as being all that difficult, and it's a pretty good language lesson, if nothing else.
I think that when a women speaks in her native tongue while being fucked, I know what language it is, and there are subtitles, that is really hot. I also hate it when women refer to thenselves as simply "European". I want to know where you're from, damnit.
Here is a similar situation: for music, I mostly listen to opera, where language is also an issue. One occasionally hears foreign operas sung in English translation. Whereas the original language has the sound of pure poetry, the English often is painfully banal. From studying the libretti, I realize that the original text in German or Italian or whatever is frequently equally banal, but doesn't have that effect on the ear. So, to get back on topic, I would love to hear a woman bubbling over in her native tongue instead of mangling English, at least sometimes as a change of pace.
I like hearing actresses using their native languages as well. It can be amusing and sexy. I've heard some actresses, mostly Spanish-speakers, talk for a sentence or two but I'd like some of the conversations to be longer. I've heard Annette Schwarz speak German in a couple of scenes. The best was in a movie, Trouble With Girls, with Annette and Gianna Michaels. In the scene, they were girlfriends with Annette as the dominant one and Gianna as the submissive one. Annette spoke English in the scene but she also used German. It was sexy listening to her but it was funny to me because in some of the scenes she was speaking to Gianna and it was clear that Gianna--either by the confused half-smile she'd have or because she'd do something and Annette would correct and discipline her--didn't understand. In English, very few actresses really have anything to say and aren't too interesting in saying it. They either aren't good at ad-libbing or they can't execute their lines very well. One of the few English-speakers that I must hear is Gianna Michaels. A lot of the other actresses? One can be substituted for the other when it comes to porn-chat. Edited by - SyncMaster on 7/12/2010 9:22:12 PM
Ana Nova spoke quite a bit of German in her early Porn Valley scenes, mostly because she really didn't seem to know a lot of English at the time, in my impression.
I saw that scene recently and I agree, other than "pussy", "baby" and Sativa saying, "Let me lick" or something close, it was all Spanish and yes, it was hot stuff! Other than the Spanish-speaking, I also liked Rebeca swatting Christian XXX back and forth across his jaw. That dude can take a lot of abuse, and he did not seem to have a problem at all dealing with Sativa and Rebeca not speaking English.
@ SyncMaster Thread revival, lol. I too love Annette's accent, but in all the scenes I have seen she very rarely speaks a word of German, which is a bit sad. Can you think of any other scenes where Annette speaks German? Shame Gianna retired, she was awesome :) @ Shalalin One good scene with Ana in which she speaks a lot of German is the ''Worship this Bitch'' series. Have you got any other recommendations? Btw, did a quick search on IAFD on Ana Nova's profile and one hit that looked very promising was ''Broken English'' 2004 Platinum X Pictures. Anyone seen this, sounds good. Has Monica Sweetheart, Ana Nova in it amongst others.
I can't think of any offhand in which Annette speaks German but that's probably a memory thing. I'm sure I've heard her speak German a little in some other scenes. More importantly, Gianna retired? Really? I hadn't heard. I've got to look into that.
I've noticed that more and more European sites have started filming scenes with the guys and girls attempting to speak in English. Some are getting better at it but most tend to fall flat seeing as English is not their first langauge. I'd rather they spoke any language instead of not talking at all. The lack of any dialogue except moaning gets repetitious real fast. I speak French so I have at least one more language to enjoy porn in and for some reason I find that I prefer watching porn in French then English.
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Posted - Jul 17 2010 : 10:26AM
Laurie Vargas's scene in a movie named Latin Maids 2 or something like that.
Just watched Carmina Kai's scene in Face Fucking 9 and it was absolutely awesome. She is a stellar performer and I applaud Joey for asking her to speak in Vietnamese throughout. It made the scene so much hotter. I must ask: does anyone know if Carmina is still active? She is definitely someone to keep an eye on. IAFD only has a couple of listings for 2010, hope she does a few more scenes though. Also, is there a Joey Silvera appreciation thread? Does he even post on here?
this is probably dating myself but there is a cool scene between Nomi and Syren (Smiles) in [invalid URL removed]4 Finger Club #11 Nomi is french and Syren is french-canadian. the camera man has some fun making Nomi speak english then Nomi and Syren sexily speak french to each as the scene progresses
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